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Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2021, 12:09:26 AM »

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The Celtics are short handed, exhausted and in need of shooting to spread the floor and this guy can't sniff the floor. If Carsen Edwards can get in and hoist up a couple of shots why can't Nesmith. I'm not saying he's going to solve our problems but why does Miami play Hero all of last year and this kid can't even sniff the floor? Waters is playing more this year than Nesmith. Tacko took 3 more shots than Nesmith did last game. Please point out if I am missing something here.

The other question is.  How did Danny miss on Bey?

The guy is automatic at the very least on open 3s

Nesmith is not at the moment.  Also foul prone

Man Bey looks good. Celts could have really used him on the team. Then Celts dont have to try to overpay for Barnes etc

Bey is tough and can play D too.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2021, 12:13:50 AM »

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so Theis can take open three pointers to complete a comeback from a huge deficit. This team has no clue how to use the players on the roster. Things do not improve and the Jayswalk.
Theis is shooting 45% on 3pointers this year. I am fine with him taking catch-and-shoot 3s.
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Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2021, 12:24:42 AM »

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Because he can’t defend a chair without fouling it.

This is not complicated.

Then give him his 6 fouls...it really isn’t that complicated.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2021, 12:28:38 AM »

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The Celtics are short handed, exhausted and in need of shooting to spread the floor and this guy can't sniff the floor. If Carsen Edwards can get in and hoist up a couple of shots why can't Nesmith. I'm not saying he's going to solve our problems but why does Miami play Hero all of last year and this kid can't even sniff the floor? Waters is playing more this year than Nesmith. Tacko took 3 more shots than Nesmith did last game. Please point out if I am missing something here.

The other question is.  How did Danny miss on Bey?

The guy is automatic at the very least on open 3s

Nesmith is not at the moment.  Also foul prone

Man Bey looks good. Celts could have really used him on the team. Then Celts dont have to try to overpay for Barnes etc

Bey is tough and can play D too.

When was the last time Danny spent a lottery pick on a tough player? They (Danny and Brad) want soft players.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2021, 12:30:57 AM »

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so Theis can take open three pointers to complete a comeback from a huge deficit. This team has no clue how to use the players on the roster. Things do not improve and the Jayswalk.
Theis is shooting 45% on 3pointers this year. I am fine with him taking catch-and-shoot 3s.

Theis should be taking threes to keep defenses honest not to put the finish to a huge comeback.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2021, 02:30:49 AM »

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The Celtics are short handed, exhausted and in need of shooting to spread the floor and this guy can't sniff the floor. If Carsen Edwards can get in and hoist up a couple of shots why can't Nesmith. I'm not saying he's going to solve our problems but why does Miami play Hero all of last year and this kid can't even sniff the floor? Waters is playing more this year than Nesmith. Tacko took 3 more shots than Nesmith did last game. Please point out if I am missing something here.

The other question is.  How did Danny miss on Bey?

The guy is automatic at the very least on open 3s

Nesmith is not at the moment.  Also foul prone

Man Bey looks good. Celts could have really used him on the team. Then Celts dont have to try to overpay for Barnes etc

Bey is tough and can play D too.

When was the last time Danny spent a lottery pick on a tough player? They (Danny and Brad) want soft players.

Pritchard is as hard as a rusty nail but we had three picks in a great draft for role players and only came out with one player.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2021, 02:47:06 AM »

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I guess Brad just has his mind made up:

https://chowderandchampions.com/2020/12/12/boston-celtics-rumors-aaron-nesmith-needs-play-2021/


"We’re four practices in; I have no idea if he will be a part of the rotation or not,” Brad Stevens said. “I really like what I’ve seen, so far, from his ability to learn from things day-to-day and apply them the next day. But that stuff will sort itself out.”

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2021, 04:40:24 AM »

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Is he worst than Teague now ? I guess even if we put him PG he could hardly be worst than Teague at this point. And we still have Green sometimes Carsen who are playing the 2... What the hell, if you have to play trash players, play the one who have potential at least, even if you don't believe him to give him some value in a possible multiple trade.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2021, 05:12:54 AM »

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I don't know what's going on. What I do know is that it looks like Ainge made a mistake by gambling on the shooting stats of Nesmith over going with the safe option in Bey.

Seems to me that Celtics management decisions are becoming more reactionary instead of a holding on to a longterm vision. We lost Irving and they panicked and signed the most decorated point guard available to a max contract, which hurts our options now.

We lost in the playoffs against Miami that had multiple 3-point-weapons and we lacked shooters and as a follow up they drafted the player with the best shooting percentages, where you're generally better off taking the best player available that high in the draft.

Nonetheless Stevens should play the rookie. His competition is Teague, Edwards, Green, Grant Williams....
He can't be that bad, can he?

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2021, 05:13:26 AM »

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Nesmith shot 52% from three last year, but that was only in 14 games with only one of those games coming against a school from a power conference after shooting 34% as a freshman.  The scouting reports said he was a subpar ball handler and passer  averaging 0.9 assists with a high usage rate.  He was also a sub par defender against second rate college players according to the scouting reports.

The reports also said he's a smart guy with an elite work ethic (which is probably why his shooting improved so much from his freshman to sophomore seasons.). At 6'5" with a 6'10" wing span, good athleticism and physique, there's a lot of potential there.  But he was always going to be a project.  It was never reasonable to expect much from him his rookie season.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2021, 05:20:47 AM »

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The Celtics are short handed, exhausted and in need of shooting to spread the floor and this guy can't sniff the floor. If Carsen Edwards can get in and hoist up a couple of shots why can't Nesmith. I'm not saying he's going to solve our problems but why does Miami play Hero all of last year and this kid can't even sniff the floor? Waters is playing more this year than Nesmith. Tacko took 3 more shots than Nesmith did last game. Please point out if I am missing something here.

The other question is.  How did Danny miss on Bey?

The guy is automatic at the very least on open 3s

Nesmith is not at the moment.  Also foul prone

Man Bey looks good. Celts could have really used him on the team. Then Celts dont have to try to overpay for Barnes etc

Bey is tough and can play D too.

You could see in his college games that he had an allround game which would translate to the NBA. He can defend multiple positions, hit open shots and he's even a decent passer. Obviously he had a great night against us, but very impressive. The Pistons have a very nice wing core with Grant, Jackson and Bey.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2021, 05:38:33 AM »

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The Celtics are short handed, exhausted and in need of shooting to spread the floor and this guy can't sniff the floor. If Carsen Edwards can get in and hoist up a couple of shots why can't Nesmith. I'm not saying he's going to solve our problems but why does Miami play Hero all of last year and this kid can't even sniff the floor? Waters is playing more this year than Nesmith. Tacko took 3 more shots than Nesmith did last game. Please point out if I am missing something here.

The other question is.  How did Danny miss on Bey?

The guy is automatic at the very least on open 3s

Nesmith is not at the moment.  Also foul prone

Man Bey looks good. Celts could have really used him on the team. Then Celts dont have to try to overpay for Barnes etc

Bey is tough and can play D too.

You could see in his college games that he had an allround game which would translate to the NBA. He can defend multiple positions, hit open shots and he's even a decent passer. Obviously he had a great night against us, but very impressive. The Pistons have a very nice wing core with Grant, Jackson and Bey.
He is also a Villanova product, and those guys are always solid
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Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2021, 08:48:05 AM »

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To answer the OP's question...

He sucks.

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2021, 10:02:00 AM »

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because he isn't good enough to play right now.

Yea wouldn’t want him cutting into the valuable playing time grant williams gives us ::)

Re: Why is Nesmith glued to the bench?
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2021, 10:20:04 AM »

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To answer the OP's question...

He sucks.

If one is prone to thinking that Brad Stevens is a bad coach and poor judge of talent then I suppose that the OP question is legit. I tend to think that I not only know far less than CBS, but that I witness players in practice sessions -- well, never -- and he sees then playing daily and on film.   So, I think Nesmith rides the bench because CBS thinks he's not ready and that there are better players to insert.  Stevens' goal should primarily be to win games. 

That said, Nesmith could show something at some point that leads CBS to insert him, give him more opportunity, and depending on his response, play him more.  I trust Stevens more than I trust myself on situations like this.  No question there are those on the blog who trust their own judgment more than Stevens'.