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Re: Tendonitis
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2021, 02:50:39 PM »

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I think it is unfair that people are trying to make this Stevens' problem.  Now this season, there are more games being compressed into a shorter season so recovery time is less.  They also had less training camp.  But I do not believe that Tendonitis could have been prevented by playing Brown a few minutes less per game.  Maybe holding him out of back to backs but if he was that susceptible to injury, I am not sure it would have mattered.

TP. Right now, Brown is 42nd overall in the league in minutes played. I think if anything, it's Jaylen's style of play that makes him susceptible to injury.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2021, 02:59:17 PM »

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I think it is unfair that people are trying to make this Stevens' problem.  Now this season, there are more games being compressed into a shorter season so recovery time is less.  They also had less training camp.  But I do not believe that Tendonitis could have been prevented by playing Brown a few minutes less per game.  Maybe holding him out of back to backs but if he was that susceptible to injury, I am not sure it would have mattered.

I don't know...

Because Ainge today stated that he only knew about his tendonitis condition 2 weeks ago.   

Previous to this season, Brown has been pretty durable

He is only 25-26 ....  and already has tendonitis? 

Marcus Smart already has ankle/calf problems?

So yes, Brad minute/what is asked of his players probably has something to do with it

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2021, 03:01:56 PM »

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I think it is unfair that people are trying to make this Stevens' problem.  Now this season, there are more games being compressed into a shorter season so recovery time is less.  They also had less training camp.  But I do not believe that Tendonitis could have been prevented by playing Brown a few minutes less per game.  Maybe holding him out of back to backs but if he was that susceptible to injury, I am not sure it would have mattered.

TP. Right now, Brown is 42nd overall in the league in minutes played. I think if anything, it's Jaylen's style of play that makes him susceptible to injury.

Thus Brad has to recognize this and either reduce min/consider sitting him on B2B.  The other option is to tell him to take it down a notch.  Not the best option

Re: Tendonitis
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2021, 03:09:11 PM »

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I think it is unfair that people are trying to make this Stevens' problem.  Now this season, there are more games being compressed into a shorter season so recovery time is less.  They also had less training camp.  But I do not believe that Tendonitis could have been prevented by playing Brown a few minutes less per game.  Maybe holding him out of back to backs but if he was that susceptible to injury, I am not sure it would have mattered.

I don't know...

Because Ainge today stated that he only knew about his tendonitis condition 2 weeks ago.   

Previous to this season, Brown has been pretty durable

He is only 25-26 ....  and already has tendonitis? 

Marcus Smart already has ankle/calf problems?

So yes, Brad minute/what is asked of his players probably has something to do with it

Tendonitis and age are not linked. I work in a practice that's treated high school athletes with tendonitis. Likewise, calf strains and ankle sprains are not necessarily related to overuse, but the nature of the sport places more burden on the lower body.

Again, though, I don't believe that Brad is overplaying either Jays. They're getting equal or less overall minutes than their counterparts.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2021, 03:16:57 PM »

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I think it is unfair that people are trying to make this Stevens' problem.  Now this season, there are more games being compressed into a shorter season so recovery time is less.  They also had less training camp.  But I do not believe that Tendonitis could have been prevented by playing Brown a few minutes less per game.  Maybe holding him out of back to backs but if he was that susceptible to injury, I am not sure it would have mattered.

TP. Right now, Brown is 42nd overall in the league in minutes played. I think if anything, it's Jaylen's style of play that makes him susceptible to injury.

Thus Brad has to recognize this and either reduce min/consider sitting him on B2B.  The other option is to tell him to take it down a notch.  Not the best option

If he can't play 30 mins per game or needs that type of load management already, then we should have some serious concerns about his longterm viability as a foundational player.
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2021, 03:36:39 PM »

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Guys like Jordan, Pippen, and Kobe had similar body types and games to Brown and Tatum, and they did not have chronic knee or calf issues. Kobe had some issues when he got old, but he was good throughout all of his prime years. Those guys also played a lot of minutes.

You can't blame it on Stevens or overuse or on Jaylen's game. Sometimes this stuff happens. I don't imagine it will be a chronic issue.

I think some of the mentality today has gone overboard on load management across the league, and on the idea that somehow guys are so much more athletic that they injure themselves more. You can't tell me guys today are more athletic than Jordan, Pippen and Kobe. Lebron who's extremely athletic also never gets injured.

Now Smart, his type of game is what gets you inured often. Avery Bradley had to stop playing that way early on after he got paid in order to extend his career.

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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2021, 03:39:49 PM »

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I wondered if JB hurt himself on that monster dunk, I believe from the Clippers game.  He did that before on a dunk, maybe as a rook??
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2021, 03:49:04 PM »

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I think it is unfair that people are trying to make this Stevens' problem.  Now this season, there are more games being compressed into a shorter season so recovery time is less.  They also had less training camp.  But I do not believe that Tendonitis could have been prevented by playing Brown a few minutes less per game.  Maybe holding him out of back to backs but if he was that susceptible to injury, I am not sure it would have mattered.

TP. Right now, Brown is 42nd overall in the league in minutes played. I think if anything, it's Jaylen's style of play that makes him susceptible to injury.

Thus Brad has to recognize this and either reduce min/consider sitting him on B2B.  The other option is to tell him to take it down a notch.  Not the best option

If he can't play 30 mins per game or needs that type of load management already, then we should have some serious concerns about his longterm viability as a foundational player.
I know right. The curse of Danny’s max contracts is lurking. I imagine Jaylen is getting super maxed regardless of nagging tendinitis.

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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2021, 03:49:18 PM »

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Guys like Jordan, Pippen, and Kobe had similar body types and games to Brown and Tatum, and they did not have chronic knee or calf issues. Kobe had some issues when he got old, but he was good throughout all of his prime years. Those guys also played a lot of minutes.

You can't blame it on Stevens or overuse or on Jaylen's game. Sometimes this stuff happens. I don't imagine it will be a chronic issue.

I think some of the mentality today has gone overboard on load management across the league, and on the idea that somehow guys are so much more athletic that they injure themselves more. You can't tell me guys today are more athletic than Jordan, Pippen and Kobe. Lebron who's extremely athletic also never gets injured.

Now Smart, his type of game is what gets you inured often. Avery Bradley had to stop playing that way early on after he got paid in order to extend his career.

I don't believe Jaylen's issue is chronic either, which is why I'm sort of taken aback that people think his minutes need to be cut when they're already low.

With that said, style of play absolutely can impact injuries. The amount of sudden changes in speed and direction, knees aren't really made for that. Look at a guy like Derrick Rose. The way he played earlier in his career was just violence on his lower body.
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2021, 04:37:48 PM »

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I think it is unfair that people are trying to make this Stevens' problem.  Now this season, there are more games being compressed into a shorter season so recovery time is less.  They also had less training camp.  But I do not believe that Tendonitis could have been prevented by playing Brown a few minutes less per game.  Maybe holding him out of back to backs but if he was that susceptible to injury, I am not sure it would have mattered.

TP. Right now, Brown is 42nd overall in the league in minutes played. I think if anything, it's Jaylen's style of play that makes him susceptible to injury.

Thus Brad has to recognize this and either reduce min/consider sitting him on B2B.  The other option is to tell him to take it down a notch.  Not the best option

If he can't play 30 mins per game or needs that type of load management already, then we should have some serious concerns about his longterm viability as a foundational player.
I know right. The curse of Danny’s max contracts is lurking. I imagine Jaylen is getting super maxed regardless of nagging tendinitis.

Probably. There is also a marketing aspect

Look at Issac from the Magic. I don't even remember the last time he played.  He got a sweet deal

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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2021, 05:34:51 PM »

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Guys like Jordan, Pippen, and Kobe had similar body types and games to Brown and Tatum, and they did not have chronic knee or calf issues. Kobe had some issues when he got old, but he was good throughout all of his prime years. Those guys also played a lot of minutes.

You can't blame it on Stevens or overuse or on Jaylen's game. Sometimes this stuff happens. I don't imagine it will be a chronic issue.

I think some of the mentality today has gone overboard on load management across the league, and on the idea that somehow guys are so much more athletic that they injure themselves more. You can't tell me guys today are more athletic than Jordan, Pippen and Kobe. Lebron who's extremely athletic also never gets injured.

Now Smart, his type of game is what gets you inured often. Avery Bradley had to stop playing that way early on after he got paid in order to extend his career.

I don't believe Jaylen's issue is chronic either, which is why I'm sort of taken aback that people think his minutes need to be cut when they're already low.

With that said, style of play absolutely can impact injuries. The amount of sudden changes in speed and direction, knees aren't really made for that. Look at a guy like Derrick Rose. The way he played earlier in his career was just violence on his lower body.

Sure, but Jaylen's game is not early career Rose level. It's a lot more like Kobe and MJ's game in terms of style and stress on the body. You could also argue that MJ and to a lesser extent Kobe had more pounding on their bodies from how the game was called back then and the level of physicality.

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« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2021, 08:03:16 PM »

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you are all saying pretty much the similar things. Brown has tendonitis, it is related to his basketball activities. Those are the facts. If his basketball activities are not adjusted it could become a lingering problem. Time to adjust his basketball activities.

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wrong thread

Re: Tendonitis
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2021, 10:01:51 PM »

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Jaylen played 32 minutes tonight. So perhaps this knee issue isn’t as worrisome as what it is perceived to be? If this is something that needs to be managed then he probably sits tomorrow, the second night of a back to back? The 32 minutes tonight were encouraging though.



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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2021, 10:08:30 PM »

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you are all saying pretty much the similar things. Brown has tendonitis, it is related to his basketball activities. Those are the facts. If his basketball activities are not adjusted it could become a lingering problem. Time to adjust his basketball activities.
Not necessarily.  The treatment he's been doing could be the solution.  He may have to do a little bit of maintenance after he's over this flareup.