Andre Drummond

[todd_days_41]

I'm interested in the community's take on him has a potential addition. I have a 3 team trade in mind I think makes some sense for all teams, but don't want that to be a distraction to the topic.

Do think adding Drummond would change the complexion of the Cs as a contender for the better, or worse?

[lrybrd]

I don't understand the fascination with Drummond.  He is a dinosaur that would never fit in our system. 

Additionally, every time I watch him play he looks lazy and disinterested.  He is the quintessential great stats guy on a bad team.

I'll pass. 

[wdleehi]

This is like the current CB version of Pinky and the Brain:


What overpaid Center should we talk about the Celtics getting this trade deadline? 

The same overpaid Center we talk about every trade deadline, Drummond.



No, the Celtics should not trade for Drummond.

[todd_days_41]

He is a dinosaur that would never fit in our system. 

Couldn't one say this about Thompson? What player that can't shoot the 3 "fits our system"?

As for the fact that Drummond's overpaid.... what difference does it make? He's on an expiring contract anyway.

Would he'd make the .500 Celtics better? Appreciate anyone that'd put some real analysis into that question.

[wdleehi]

He is a dinosaur that would never fit in our system. 

Couldn't one say this about Thompson? What player that can't shoot the 3 "fits our system"?

As for the fact that Drummond's overpaid.... what difference does it make? He's on an expiring contract anyway.

Would he'd make the .500 Celtics better? Appreciate anyone that'd put some real analysis into that question.

Simply put, way to much money for a guy that has the size to match up with Embiid but can be played off the floor by all the other top contenders in the NBA. 

[nickagneta]

He is a dinosaur that would never fit in our system. 

Couldn't one say this about Thompson? What player that can't shoot the 3 "fits our system"?

As for the fact that Drummond's overpaid.... what difference does it make? He's on an expiring contract anyway.

Would he'd make the .500 Celtics better? Appreciate anyone that'd put some real analysis into that question.

You know what's going to make the .500 Celtics better?

Not playing 65+% of their games on the road.

Not continuing to have the 4th hardest strength of schedule in the league.

Not losing 38 player games to injury or Covid from their top 10 players.

The team has not been healthy. They've played a ridiculously lopsided amount of games on the road and they have played the 4th hardest schedule in the league thus far.

The team doesn't need to make a trade simply to make a trade. The team needs to get healthy and playing together to create their optimum synergy and chemistry. Then, and only then, will we know for sure what extra this team needs to maximize their chance at a title.

[todd_days_41]

He is a dinosaur that would never fit in our system. 

Couldn't one say this about Thompson? What player that can't shoot the 3 "fits our system"?

As for the fact that Drummond's overpaid.... what difference does it make? He's on an expiring contract anyway.

Would he'd make the .500 Celtics better? Appreciate anyone that'd put some real analysis into that question.

Simply put, way to much money for a guy that has the size to match up with Embiid but can be played off the floor by all the other top contenders in the NBA.

Agree he would need to be used situationally. But I see him as a potential asset versus Philly, the Bucks, Charlotte, and (less so) Indiana. I also wonder who on the Nets is blocking him out... DeAndre Jordan? No chance.

Forget the money. What if he's bought out? Would you take Drummond on vet min rest-of-year deal, assuming he required you to commit to -- say -- 20-25 mins a night?

[Atzar]

Theoretically we'd be acquiring Drummond primarily to match up better against Embiid than our current group.  Which is nice, except for the fact that Embiid destroys him.  He's not any more useful in that matchup than our current group... or any of the other bigs in the NBA, for that matter.

The problem isn't just that Embiid is really big.  The problem is that he's really GOOD.  And Doc is a hell of a lot better at putting him in positions to succeed than Brett Brown was.  This problem isn't going to go away just because you acquired a guy who is 6'10" instead of 6'9" to play center. 

[Vermont Green]

I get the interest in him as a player.  27 years old, 18.5 pts, 14+ rebs, that is some intriguing production.

Now I get that Stats are Stats, they are not everything, but they are something.  I will say that I see no reason to get him just to match up against MIL or PHI.  I don't see a deal right now but I think he is better than some people give him credit for.

[todd_days_41]

I get the interest in him as a player.  27 years old, 18.5 pts, 14+ rebs, that is some intriguing production.

Now I get that Stats are Stats, they are not everything, but they are something.  I will say that I see no reason to get him just to match up against MIL or PHI.  I don't see a deal right now but I think he is better than some people give him credit for.

The stats aren't important to me. I'm more interested in the mismatches and problems he creates, and whether / how much the positives outweigh the negatives.

One negative I know concerns me: I think Bob Williams needs more -- and more consistent -- minutes for this team to go anywhere serious. Addition of Drummond would cloud that pretty badly.

[todd_days_41]

Sounds like Ujiri wants to get him but needs him to be bought out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nba/raptors/.amp/news/toronto-raptors-andre-drummond-cleveland-cavaliers-trade-rumors

[todd_days_41]

Sounds like Ujiri wants to get him but needs him to be bought out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nba/raptors/.amp/news/toronto-raptors-andre-drummond-cleveland-cavaliers-trade-rumors

More intel here. Hard to see how Toronto can make a deal work.... is there an angle here for the Cs?

https://theathletic.com/2387459/2021/02/15/nba-trade-news-andre-drummond-to-raptors-coming-lonzo-ball-interest-and-more/

[RJ87]

He is a dinosaur that would never fit in our system. 

Couldn't one say this about Thompson? What player that can't shoot the 3 "fits our system"?

As for the fact that Drummond's overpaid.... what difference does it make? He's on an expiring contract anyway.

Would he'd make the .500 Celtics better? Appreciate anyone that'd put some real analysis into that question.

Simply put, way to much money for a guy that has the size to match up with Embiid but can be played off the floor by all the other top contenders in the NBA.

Embiid tends to embarrass him anyway.

Drummond overall as a player leaves a lot to be desired. He's not a particularly good defender and his offensive game is super limited. He is a good rebounder, but you can just plug in Tristan Thompson who make a 3rd of Drummond's salary.

[footey]

No thank you. Doesn’t move needle. Larry Nance, however....

[todd_days_41]

No thank you. Doesn’t move needle. Larry Nance, however....

My point was: can Cs facilitate Drummond to Toronto?

Example: I don't see why Cleveland would trade for Lowry. But would the Cs?