How To Make A Harrison Barnes Trade Work?

[RPGenerate]

If the Warriors offer this up, how do we get Barnes (just including the other moves they could make to build up their bench and slightly lower their luxury tax payment since I’m curious about what they could pull off):

https://tradenba.com/trades/LqsVoCNtI

Warriors have a treasure trove of assets. They’re getting Barnes back.

You're not telling me you believe that the Bulls are gonna trade two first round pick and a huge expiring contract in Otto Porter for Andrew Wiggins, right?

[gouki88]

Kemba for Barnes + expiring(s)

We'd save $15,732,109 next season, which would help us use the full TPE and still keep our payroll under control.

I bet the Kings would have zero interest in Kemba. Chances are it would have to be a 3-way. Here are some ideas:





Not sure whether I'd do the second trade. I'm low on Hardaway Jr. I'd do it if the Mavs were willing to take Thompson instead of Theis. It would still be a valid trade salary-wise.

I feel like 2/3 of these deals are lateral at absolute best with how well Kemba is rounding into form

[Jvalin]

Kemba for Barnes + expiring(s)

We'd save $15,732,109 next season, which would help us use the full TPE and still keep our payroll under control.

I bet the Kings would have zero interest in Kemba. Chances are it would have to be a 3-way. Here are some ideas:





Not sure whether I'd do the second trade. I'm low on Hardaway Jr. I'd do it if the Mavs were willing to take Thompson instead of Theis. It would still be a valid trade salary-wise.

I feel like 2/3 of these deals are lateral at absolute best with how well Kemba is rounding into form

Agreed, but they'd save us $15,732,109 next season, which would help us use the full TPE and still keep our payroll under control. As things stand right now, I don't think we can realistically expect to use the full TPE. The luxury tax would explode through the roof! I can't see Wyc paying an NBA record luxury tax, especially in the midst of a recession due to the pandemic.

I also think Kemba is more suited for an up-tempo style of play. The vast majority of playoff games are won in the half court. I believe Barnes might prove to be more useful than Kemba come playoff time.

[GreenlyGreeny]

If the Warriors offer this up, how do we get Barnes (just including the other moves they could make to build up their bench and slightly lower their luxury tax payment since I’m curious about what they could pull off):

https://tradenba.com/trades/LqsVoCNtI

Warriors have a treasure trove of assets. They’re getting Barnes back.

You're not telling me you believe that the Bulls are gonna trade two first round pick and a huge expiring contract in Otto Porter for Andrew Wiggins, right?

That was a mistake. Forgot to drop one of the first-rounders.

[boscel33]

Watching Gary Washburn on NESN this morning, he identifies Barnes and Ross from the Magic as the targets for the C's.  He mentioned those two and the TPE, so maybe he believes Danny will use it during the season.

[footey]

Watching Gary Washburn on NESN this morning, he identifies Barnes and Ross from the Magic as the targets for the C's.  He mentioned those two and the TPE, so maybe he believes Danny will use it during the season.

Given Gary's recent dressing down of Ainge, I seriously doubt he is privy to any inside info on which players the Celtics are targeting. Sounds like more "journalisming."

[Roy H.]

Watching Gary Washburn on NESN this morning, he identifies Barnes and Ross from the Magic as the targets for the C's.  He mentioned those two and the TPE, so maybe he believes Danny will use it during the season.

Given Gary's recent dressing down of Ainge, I seriously doubt he is privy to any inside info on which players the Celtics are targeting. Sounds like more "journalisming."

I honestly think that any reasonably articulate person on this blog could do just as good of a job as these “insiders”.  Close to 100% of it seems like educated guessing.

[knuckleballer]

More noise about the Celtics’ interest in Barnes.

https://sports.yahoo.com/harrison-barnes-rumors-celtics-continue-212944655.html

Amick writes. "Unless, of course, the Celtics go ahead and make this move for Sacramento small forward Harrison Barnes that so many front office folks around the league believe could be coming.”

[todd_days_41]

Watching Gary Washburn on NESN this morning, he identifies Barnes and Ross from the Magic as the targets for the C's.  He mentioned those two and the TPE, so maybe he believes Danny will use it during the season.

Given Gary's recent dressing down of Ainge, I seriously doubt he is privy to any inside info on which players the Celtics are targeting. Sounds like more "journalisming."

I honestly think that any reasonably articulate person on this blog could do just as good of a job as these “insiders”.  Close to 100% of it seems like educated guessing.

Agreed, and no one who covers the Celtics is an NBA “insider”. None of them. Chris Mannix prolly has like 2-3 low level sources in front offices that aren’t the Cs. Doesn’t count.

[Vermont Green]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

[TheReaLPuba]

So we let Gordon walk just to get another wing in Barnes?

What is Ainge thinking??

We need a stud big and a bench scoring!

I still believe Kemba will get better and healthier, but some PG insurance won’t hurt either.

[knuckleballer]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I'd be fine with Theis and RWill as our centers and wouldn't miss Thompson much.  That said we don't need to trade Thompson to make the trade work.  We need to stay under the hard cap which is $138.9 mil while the luxury tax is $132.6 mil.  Sending out Nesmith or Langford plus a first round pick should be worth it to Sac and keep us under the hard cap.  Whether the team is willing to go over the luxury tax is up to Wyc.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/

[liam]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

If Danny could've had Hayward for 22 million this year and 20 million next year and 18 million the year after that, Hayward would be a Celtic.

[byennie]

Thompson makes a little more than Bjelica, so if we're dancing around the luxury tax we could do something like:

Thompson, Langford, GWilliams, Teague or Edwards, pick(s)
<=>
Barnes, Bjelica

and then run with a rotation of (Walker, Pritchard, Smart), (Brown, Tatum, Barnes), (Bjelica, Theis, RWilliams).

10th man on would be Nesmith, Ojeyele, Green, Waters, Fall and if you squint really hard we could probably move a piece and sign a veteran to the min.

[Celtics2021]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.0