How To Make A Harrison Barnes Trade Work?

[liam]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.0

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

[Celtics2021]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move. 

[byennie]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move.

I don’t think this logic really holds up. Barnes can’t play center. If you only have two legitimate centers on your roster, that’s a potential liability as you’ll be short handed anytime they can’t give you 48 minutes at the 5 spot. It also doesn’t mean that we’re gonna play Barnes strictly at the 4.

[liam]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move.

I don’t think this logic really holds up. Barnes can’t play center. If you only have two legitimate centers on your roster, that’s a potential liability as you’ll be short handed anytime they can’t give you 48 minutes at the 5 spot. It also doesn’t mean that we’re gonna play Barnes strictly at the 4.

Well, said....

[Celtics2021]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move.

I don’t think this logic really holds up. Barnes can’t play center. If you only have two legitimate centers on your roster, that’s a potential liability as you’ll be short handed anytime they can’t give you 48 minutes at the 5 spot. It also doesn’t mean that we’re gonna play Barnes strictly at the 4.

Your third center in this scenario should be someone from the buyout market (and the trade above clears a roster spot anyway) who comes in if there’s injury, foul trouble, or just plain ineffectiveness from one of the two centers ahead of him, but ideally is getting a lot of DNP-CDs during the playoffs.  Trying to make a rotation out of three centers has us starting one of them at PF, and those lineups have, more often than not, caused us to have to play from behind.

Would Barnes play all of his minutes at the 4?  No, not really.  But Stevens often plays lineups of two guards and two wings, or one guard and three wings, and in the playoffs normally goes to an 8-man rotation with a 9th man who may vary from game to game or half to half.  With this trade the 8-man rotation would presumably be:

Walker
Smart
Pritchard

Tatum
Brown
Barnes

Thompson
TimeLord

And the 9th man would be one of Teague, Semi, and Grant, depending on how Brad liked a matchup, what he saw in practice, etc.  Hopefully another trade or buyout would upgrade the options from Semi and Grant, but if not I don’t think it would be the end of the world.

[CFAN38]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move.

I don’t think this logic really holds up. Barnes can’t play center. If you only have two legitimate centers on your roster, that’s a potential liability as you’ll be short handed anytime they can’t give you 48 minutes at the 5 spot. It also doesn’t mean that we’re gonna play Barnes strictly at the 4.

I tend to agree that a big should be moved. R Williams has shown enough so fare this season that he should be getting 20mpg+ every night. That isn't likely to happen with Barnes (or A Gordon/Nance) joining the roster and limiting the 2 big lineups. The log jamb of minutes at the 5 has also negatively effected Grant Williams who brings value to the court as a small ball 5. I am hesitant to move on from Theis and would prefer to see Thompson moved and a large bodied vet 3rd big brought in to backup Theis /R Will. A Baynes, Mcgee, or R Lopez type big would be a welcome roster addition when playing against Embiid.   

[footey]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move.

I don’t think this logic really holds up. Barnes can’t play center. If you only have two legitimate centers on your roster, that’s a potential liability as you’ll be short handed anytime they can’t give you 48 minutes at the 5 spot. It also doesn’t mean that we’re gonna play Barnes strictly at the 4.

I tend to agree that a big should be moved. R Williams has shown enough so fare this season that he should be getting 20mpg+ every night. That isn't likely to happen with Barnes (or A Gordon/Nance) joining the roster and limiting the 2 big lineups. The log jamb of minutes at the 5 has also negatively effected Grant Williams who brings value to the court as a small ball 5. I am hesitant to move on from Theis and would prefer to see Thompson moved and a large bodied vet 3rd big brought in to backup Theis /R Will. A Baynes, Mcgee, or R Lopez type big would be a welcome roster addition when playing against Embiid.

 Barnes won't eat into R Williams' minutes.  He is a 3/4 swing. Gordon and Collins and Nance would, they are 4/5 guys who can't defend 3s.

[Celtics2021]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move.

I don’t think this logic really holds up. Barnes can’t play center. If you only have two legitimate centers on your roster, that’s a potential liability as you’ll be short handed anytime they can’t give you 48 minutes at the 5 spot. It also doesn’t mean that we’re gonna play Barnes strictly at the 4.

I tend to agree that a big should be moved. R Williams has shown enough so fare this season that he should be getting 20mpg+ every night. That isn't likely to happen with Barnes (or A Gordon/Nance) joining the roster and limiting the 2 big lineups. The log jamb of minutes at the 5 has also negatively effected Grant Williams who brings value to the court as a small ball 5. I am hesitant to move on from Theis and would prefer to see Thompson moved and a large bodied vet 3rd big brought in to backup Theis /R Will. A Baynes, Mcgee, or R Lopez type big would be a welcome roster addition when playing against Embiid.

 Barnes won't eat into R Williams' minutes.  He is a 3/4 swing. Gordon and Collins and Nance would, they are 4/5 guys who can't defend 3s.

In a Barnes trade in which we keep all of Theis, Thompson, and Williams, Barnes indirectly eats Williams minutes because his presence creates that many more single-big lineups, and there will accordingly be fewer minutes to spread to the bigs without taking one completely out of the rotation.  In other words, Barnes shifts Theis more to the 5, so Theis at center takes Time Lord’s minutes.

[CFAN38]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move.

I don’t think this logic really holds up. Barnes can’t play center. If you only have two legitimate centers on your roster, that’s a potential liability as you’ll be short handed anytime they can’t give you 48 minutes at the 5 spot. It also doesn’t mean that we’re gonna play Barnes strictly at the 4.

I tend to agree that a big should be moved. R Williams has shown enough so fare this season that he should be getting 20mpg+ every night. That isn't likely to happen with Barnes (or A Gordon/Nance) joining the roster and limiting the 2 big lineups. The log jamb of minutes at the 5 has also negatively effected Grant Williams who brings value to the court as a small ball 5. I am hesitant to move on from Theis and would prefer to see Thompson moved and a large bodied vet 3rd big brought in to backup Theis /R Will. A Baynes, Mcgee, or R Lopez type big would be a welcome roster addition when playing against Embiid.

 Barnes won't eat into R Williams' minutes.  He is a 3/4 swing. Gordon and Collins and Nance would, they are 4/5 guys who can't defend 3s.

If Barnes/Gordon/Nance are acquired without the loss of any rotational players I would expect the following to be the basic minutes distribution

Kemba      30
Brown       33
Tatum       35
Barnes      33
Theis         24

Smart        32
Big*           24
Pritchard     15
Langford** 14

* Thompson/R Williams

** Langford/Semi/Grant

Looking at that minutes distribution its hard for me to imagine Thies, Thompson, and R Williams all getting the minutes they either expect or deserve. 
 

[footey]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move.

I don’t think this logic really holds up. Barnes can’t play center. If you only have two legitimate centers on your roster, that’s a potential liability as you’ll be short handed anytime they can’t give you 48 minutes at the 5 spot. It also doesn’t mean that we’re gonna play Barnes strictly at the 4.

I tend to agree that a big should be moved. R Williams has shown enough so fare this season that he should be getting 20mpg+ every night. That isn't likely to happen with Barnes (or A Gordon/Nance) joining the roster and limiting the 2 big lineups. The log jamb of minutes at the 5 has also negatively effected Grant Williams who brings value to the court as a small ball 5. I am hesitant to move on from Theis and would prefer to see Thompson moved and a large bodied vet 3rd big brought in to backup Theis /R Will. A Baynes, Mcgee, or R Lopez type big would be a welcome roster addition when playing against Embiid.

 Barnes won't eat into R Williams' minutes.  He is a 3/4 swing. Gordon and Collins and Nance would, they are 4/5 guys who can't defend 3s.

If Barnes/Gordon/Nance are acquired without the loss of any rotational players I would expect the following to be the basic minutes distribution

Kemba      30
Brown       33
Tatum       35
Barnes      33
Theis         24

Smart        32
Big*           24
Pritchard     15
Langford** 14

* Thompson/R Williams

** Langford/Semi/Grant

Looking at that minutes distribution its hard for me to imagine Thies, Thompson, and R Williams all getting the minutes they either expect or deserve.

You can't equate Barnes to Gordon or Nance.  Gordon and Nance would play some small ball 5, while Barnes would not. 

[Celtics2021]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move.

I don’t think this logic really holds up. Barnes can’t play center. If you only have two legitimate centers on your roster, that’s a potential liability as you’ll be short handed anytime they can’t give you 48 minutes at the 5 spot. It also doesn’t mean that we’re gonna play Barnes strictly at the 4.

I tend to agree that a big should be moved. R Williams has shown enough so fare this season that he should be getting 20mpg+ every night. That isn't likely to happen with Barnes (or A Gordon/Nance) joining the roster and limiting the 2 big lineups. The log jamb of minutes at the 5 has also negatively effected Grant Williams who brings value to the court as a small ball 5. I am hesitant to move on from Theis and would prefer to see Thompson moved and a large bodied vet 3rd big brought in to backup Theis /R Will. A Baynes, Mcgee, or R Lopez type big would be a welcome roster addition when playing against Embiid.

 Barnes won't eat into R Williams' minutes.  He is a 3/4 swing. Gordon and Collins and Nance would, they are 4/5 guys who can't defend 3s.

If Barnes/Gordon/Nance are acquired without the loss of any rotational players I would expect the following to be the basic minutes distribution

Kemba      30
Brown       33
Tatum       35
Barnes      33
Theis         24

Smart        32
Big*           24
Pritchard     15
Langford** 14

* Thompson/R Williams

** Langford/Semi/Grant

Looking at that minutes distribution its hard for me to imagine Thies, Thompson, and R Williams all getting the minutes they either expect or deserve.

You can't equate Barnes to Gordon or Nance.  Gordon and Nance would play some small ball 5, while Barnes would not.

That’s pretty irrelevant to the point s/he (and I) are making.  There are 240 minutes in a game to split around.  If you acquire any of those players without giving up someone else who’s in the main rotation, there will be fewer minutes to go around, and a large chunk of those minutes are naturally going to come from the 2-big lineups featuring Theis and another center.  Over half of Theis’ minutes have come from such lineups, so either you’re going to cut Theis’ minutes in half (in which case, why keep him) or cut Thompson and Time Lord’s minutes.

[footey]

Jackie Mac on Simmons podcast speculated it would take Pritchard and a 1st to get Barnes. She and Simmons would both do that trade. She said Celtics need to get bigger, that Pritchard size limits his impact.

Wonder if she feels that way about Chris Paul.

[Sophomore]

Jackie Mac on Simmons podcast speculated it would take Pritchard and a 1st to get Barnes. She and Simmons would both do that trade. She said Celtics need to get bigger, that Pritchard size limits his impact.

Wonder if she feels that way about Chris Paul.

You’re right it’s not *only*Pritchard’s size that limits him. But it clearly is a factor, especially on defense. He’s a nice player, and he’s not Chris Paul. He projects to something like Tyus Jones or TJ McConnell with a better jump shot.

[Sophomore]

To stay under the tax, we have to trade Thompson.  To make the value work, SAC will need to get some young players and/or picks.  I guess we could then pick up Cousins to be our primary big.  I just don't see who this makes sense.

I don't feel SAC would value Thompson at all so he probably goes to another team with not much coming back.  Then how do we make this worthwhile to SAC?

I’ve proposed this trade before and I’ll propose it again.  Of course, it has Theis involved instead of Thompson:

https://tradenba.com/trades/vsXmkOyCo

I’m pretty sure Dallas and Sac do this trade.  I’m just not certain how much Boston values Barnes.

This trade makes us mighty thin at bigman spot.

Sort of?  If we’re getting Barnes, a big has to go, because otherwise what’s the point?  You’re not paying a hefty price to have Barnes come off the bench, and if he’s starting, that means you’ve got two the bigs coming off the bench, which seems like an inefficient use of resources.  Theis and Thompson don’t play particularly well together, and Thompson and Williams certainly don’t.  We only need two of the three bigs with Barnes on the roster — I’d far prefer to make a similar dealing sending out Thompson, but he’s probably negative value and tough to move.

I don’t think this logic really holds up. Barnes can’t play center. If you only have two legitimate centers on your roster, that’s a potential liability as you’ll be short handed anytime they can’t give you 48 minutes at the 5 spot. It also doesn’t mean that we’re gonna play Barnes strictly at the 4.

I tend to agree that a big should be moved. R Williams has shown enough so fare this season that he should be getting 20mpg+ every night. That isn't likely to happen with Barnes (or A Gordon/Nance) joining the roster and limiting the 2 big lineups. The log jamb of minutes at the 5 has also negatively effected Grant Williams who brings value to the court as a small ball 5. I am hesitant to move on from Theis and would prefer to see Thompson moved and a large bodied vet 3rd big brought in to backup Theis /R Will. A Baynes, Mcgee, or R Lopez type big would be a welcome roster addition when playing against Embiid.

 Barnes won't eat into R Williams' minutes.  He is a 3/4 swing. Gordon and Collins and Nance would, they are 4/5 guys who can't defend 3s.

He might. If Barnes came, I agree he would take all or nearly all of the minutes used by Semi, Grant, and Javonte, plus maybe a couple minutes from current backcourt. But mostly I think the team would play fewer two-big sets - instead of 60-70 minutes going to Theis-RW-TT it might be closer to 50. So a lot of his minutes would come from the bigs. Theis could slide back from the 4 to the 5, e.g.

If they bring him on, it would be ideal to move one of the current bigs.

[Vermont Green]

He might. If Barnes came, I agree he would take all or nearly all of the minutes used by Semi, Grant, and Javonte, plus maybe a couple minutes from current backcourt. But mostly I think the team would play fewer two-big sets - instead of 60-70 minutes going to Theis-RW-TT it might be closer to 50. So a lot of his minutes would come from the bigs. Theis could slide back from the 4 to the 5, e.g.

If they bring him on, it would be ideal to move one of the current bigs.

You just did a good job explaining why I am not that excited about Harrison Barnes.  He is less PF than Marcus Morris was for example but you are saying that we would need to play him mostly as a PF (or force us to play without a PF).  Marcus Morris and Horford worked pretty well as a "big" pair but that type of line up can't be used all the time, there just isn't enough size.  Barnes and Theis or Barnes and Thompson can't even equal Morris and Horford but that is what we would be faced with needing to use.