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What if??? Big trades
« on: February 02, 2021, 05:00:36 PM »

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1. Celtics trades Nesmith & Pritchard to Detroit for Derrick Rose

2. Celtics trades Walker, Theis, Grant, Romeo & first to Orlando for Vucevic & Gordon

C—Vucevic
PF-Gordon
SF-Tatum
SG-Brown
PG-Rose
Bench
Thompson
TimeLord
Smart
Semi
Teague

I know this would never happen but what do u think? U would like this? Championship team or no?
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: What if??? Big trades
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2021, 05:07:28 PM »

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And both works in trade machine.. plus use trade exception for a vet or 2
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: What if??? Big trades
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2021, 05:33:15 PM »

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Boston says no to trade 1 and Orlando says no to trade 2.

Can’t believe you would want to give up Pritchard, who could be the C’s starting PG in the next year or two and Nesmith who is finally starting to show some promise for a shell of D Rose.
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Re: What if??? Big trades
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2021, 05:48:38 PM »

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Hate trade 1, love trade 2. Rose is a relatively inefficient injury-prone scoring guard who is an upcoming free agent, and you want to give up our last 2 first round picks for him? No way.

Orlando would either need more 1sts or prospects (Nesmith) to be convinced IMO.
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2021, 05:59:37 PM »

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leaning against 1.  hate 2.

like Rose but hate to give up 2 players that could be really good for someone on the downside of their career.

Kemba's the best player in the second deal and it's not close.  watching Gordon when we played against them this year and was very underwhelmed.

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2021, 07:27:04 PM »

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leaning against 1.  hate 2.

like Rose but hate to give up 2 players that could be really good for someone on the downside of their career.

Kemba's the best player in the second deal and it's not close.  watching Gordon when we played against them this year and was very underwhelmed.
Vucevic is a better player than Kemba is
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2021, 08:32:11 PM »

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Trade 2 is my dream

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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2021, 09:29:52 PM »

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leaning against 1.  hate 2.

like Rose but hate to give up 2 players that could be really good for someone on the downside of their career.

Kemba's the best player in the second deal and it's not close.  watching Gordon when we played against them this year and was very underwhelmed.
Vucevic is a better player than Kemba is
I don't see it that way.  Kemba, when healthy, typically plays at an all-star level.  Vucevic, decent offense, mediocre defense (to be kind) and not the type of center that fits Brad's defensive schemes

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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2021, 10:04:08 PM »

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leaning against 1.  hate 2.

like Rose but hate to give up 2 players that could be really good for someone on the downside of their career.

Kemba's the best player in the second deal and it's not close.  watching Gordon when we played against them this year and was very underwhelmed.
Vucevic is a better player than Kemba is
I don't see it that way.  Kemba, when healthy, typically plays at an all-star level.  Vucevic, decent offense, mediocre defense (to be kind) and not the type of center that fits Brad's defensive schemes
Huh? Decent offence? Vucevic is a breezy 20+ scorer on 50% from the field and 37% from 3 over his last few seasons, and is one of the premier passing big men in the league (like, nearly Marc Gasol level good). He's also an elite rebounder. And your defensive assumption of Vucevic is just ... plain wrong. He's often a defensive positive, and has anchored top 10 defences a couple of times in the last 4 years.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2021, 10:18:01 PM »

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leaning against 1.  hate 2.

like Rose but hate to give up 2 players that could be really good for someone on the downside of their career.

Kemba's the best player in the second deal and it's not close.  watching Gordon when we played against them this year and was very underwhelmed.
Vucevic is a better player than Kemba is
I don't see it that way.  Kemba, when healthy, typically plays at an all-star level.  Vucevic, decent offense, mediocre defense (to be kind) and not the type of center that fits Brad's defensive schemes
Huh? Decent offence? Vucevic is a breezy 20+ scorer on 50% from the field and 37% from 3 over his last few seasons, and is one of the premier passing big men in the league (like, nearly Marc Gasol level good). He's also an elite rebounder. And your defensive assumption of Vucevic is just ... plain wrong. He's often a defensive positive, and has anchored top 10 defences a couple of times in the last 4 years.

Eh I would say he's an Average defender who gets by being in good position but he's really slow to jump. I'm unsure he's anchoring anyones defense unless that is just a reference to him being in the middle.
ok fine