The Athletic: JJ Reddick a likely destination for Celtics

[liam]

If we got Ball, would he be a RFA and we'd have right to match?

Ball would be a good fit between Brown and Tatum.

[SparzWizard]

I change my mind I don't want reddick. Not for the reasons you guys posted. But I didn't realize we'd need to use the trade exception to acquire him.

If all it was going to cost us is a draft pick then I'd be down.

This team should not be holding onto draft picks. They should be in the getting better now business. No more waiting to see(insert random young player's name) fail us in the playoffs.

We need players we can count on(specifically on our bench). Come playoff time our bench will fail as currently constructed. That means the starters can't have a bad game.

...kind of a hard way to win.

You're right though, this team shouldn't be holding onto draft picks. No need to waste 3 years to watch another Robert Williams the Third develop into....RWIII. Or another Carsen Edwards to become a Carsen Edwards. Tatum/Brown are slowly aging and peaking into their primes by then. If they aren't happy then they will surely bounce to other contending teams.

It's time to unload those picks and start winning now, or this is really going to be a once every 22-year title plan.

[NKY fan]

Meh on Reddick. No more bad defenders please

[liam]

Meh on Reddick. No more bad defenders please

TP

[Moranis]

If we got Ball, would he be a RFA and we'd have right to match?

Ball would be a good fit between Brown and Tatum.

Not really.  He isn't very good off the ball because he just isn't a very good offensive player.  He is a solid defender, but certainly isn't better than Smart. 

I'd be fine acquiring Ball if they basically gave him away, but I wouldn't give up much for him just because I don't think he is a good fit in Boston.  I do think he could be a quality starting PG for someone, but I really don't like the fit in Boston.  If he was part of a bigger trade, that might not be that bad either.  You know something like Walker, Edwards, and Green for Bledsoe, Redick and Ball.  That I'd probably do.  I'd rather have Hayes than Ball though, as I think Hayes could be a better fit and he is a long way from restricted free agency.

[liam]

If we got Ball, would he be a RFA and we'd have right to match?

Ball would be a good fit between Brown and Tatum.

Not really.  He isn't very good off the ball because he just isn't a very good offensive player.  He is a solid defender, but certainly isn't better than Smart. 

I'd be fine acquiring Ball if they basically gave him away, but I wouldn't give up much for him just because I don't think he is a good fit in Boston.  I do think he could be a quality starting PG for someone, but I really don't like the fit in Boston.  If he was part of a bigger trade, that might not be that bad either.  You know something like Walker, Edwards, and Green for Bledsoe, Redick and Ball.  That I'd probably do.  I'd rather have Hayes than Ball though, as I think Hayes could be a better fit and he is a long way from restricted free agency.

He can pass and drive on defense and sometimes shoot. The passing, ball handling and defense would make him a good fit.

[Moranis]

If we got Ball, would he be a RFA and we'd have right to match?

Ball would be a good fit between Brown and Tatum.

Not really.  He isn't very good off the ball because he just isn't a very good offensive player.  He is a solid defender, but certainly isn't better than Smart. 

I'd be fine acquiring Ball if they basically gave him away, but I wouldn't give up much for him just because I don't think he is a good fit in Boston.  I do think he could be a quality starting PG for someone, but I really don't like the fit in Boston.  If he was part of a bigger trade, that might not be that bad either.  You know something like Walker, Edwards, and Green for Bledsoe, Redick and Ball.  That I'd probably do.  I'd rather have Hayes than Ball though, as I think Hayes could be a better fit and he is a long way from restricted free agency.

He can pass and drive on defense and sometimes shoot. The passing, ball handling and defense would make him a good fit.

Except he doesn't work in New Orleans in almost an identical role.  Ball needs the ball to be effective and he just wouldn't have it in Boston because Tatum and Brown have it, much like Ingram and Williamson in New Orleans.  Ball plays his best when he controls the offense and the offense runs through him. 

[nickagneta]

If we got Ball, would he be a RFA and we'd have right to match?

Ball would be a good fit between Brown and Tatum.

Not really.  He isn't very good off the ball because he just isn't a very good offensive player.  He is a solid defender, but certainly isn't better than Smart. 

I'd be fine acquiring Ball if they basically gave him away, but I wouldn't give up much for him just because I don't think he is a good fit in Boston.  I do think he could be a quality starting PG for someone, but I really don't like the fit in Boston.  If he was part of a bigger trade, that might not be that bad either.  You know something like Walker, Edwards, and Green for Bledsoe, Redick and Ball.  That I'd probably do.  I'd rather have Hayes than Ball though, as I think Hayes could be a better fit and he is a long way from restricted free agency.

He can pass and drive on defense and sometimes shoot. The passing, ball handling and defense would make him a good fit.

Except he doesn't work in New Orleans in almost an identical role.  Ball needs the ball to be effective and he just wouldn't have it in Boston because Tatum and Brown have it, much like Ingram and Williamson in New Orleans.  Ball plays his best when he controls the offense and the offense runs through him.

Gotta agree. Ball doesn't hit as a hands on the ball creator for other with Tatum and Brown when you want Tatum and Brown creating the offense.

Smart, IMO, is the exact same type player that is better than Ball in every way. You don't need Ball here. You just need the Celtics starters being healthy and playing together for a good long stretch before the playoffs.

[liam]

If we got Ball, would he be a RFA and we'd have right to match?

Ball would be a good fit between Brown and Tatum.

Not really.  He isn't very good off the ball because he just isn't a very good offensive player.  He is a solid defender, but certainly isn't better than Smart. 

I'd be fine acquiring Ball if they basically gave him away, but I wouldn't give up much for him just because I don't think he is a good fit in Boston.  I do think he could be a quality starting PG for someone, but I really don't like the fit in Boston.  If he was part of a bigger trade, that might not be that bad either.  You know something like Walker, Edwards, and Green for Bledsoe, Redick and Ball.  That I'd probably do.  I'd rather have Hayes than Ball though, as I think Hayes could be a better fit and he is a long way from restricted free agency.

He can pass and drive on defense and sometimes shoot. The passing, ball handling and defense would make him a good fit.

Except he doesn't work in New Orleans in almost an identical role.  Ball needs the ball to be effective and he just wouldn't have it in Boston because Tatum and Brown have it, much like Ingram and Williamson in New Orleans.  Ball plays his best when he controls the offense and the offense runs through him.

Gotta agree. Ball doesn't hit as a hands on the ball creator for other with Tatum and Brown when you want Tatum and Brown creating the offense.

Smart, IMO, is the exact same type player that is better than Ball in every way. You don't need Ball here. You just need the Celtics starters being healthy and playing together for a good long stretch before the playoffs.

You may be right if the whole team could ever be healthy. Ball is a quick passer and doesn't pound the ball. I rather have him than Teague. Injuries always play a part in the playoffs and you can't have too many players. There are other players I think would fit well here but if Ball is available for a reasonable price, I'd take him.

[GreenWarrior]

I change my mind I don't want reddick. Not for the reasons you guys posted. But I didn't realize we'd need to use the trade exception to acquire him.

If all it was going to cost us is a draft pick then I'd be down.

This team should not be holding onto draft picks. They should be in the getting better now business. No more waiting to see(insert random young player's name) fail us in the playoffs.

We need players we can count on(specifically on our bench). Come playoff time our bench will fail as currently constructed. That means the starters can't have a bad game.

...kind of a hard way to win.

You're right though, this team shouldn't be holding onto draft picks. No need to waste 3 years to watch another Robert Williams the Third develop into....RWIII. Or another Carsen Edwards to become a Carsen Edwards. Tatum/Brown are slowly aging and peaking into their primes by then. If they aren't happy then they will surely bounce to other contending teams.

It's time to unload those picks and start winning now, or this is really going to be a once every 22-year title plan.

Careful agreeing with me leads to the dark side.

They should not have drafted anybody this yr., and they shouldn't use their draft picks for the next 3 yrs.

This is the most absurd approach to trying to win I've ever seen. It's not fair to tatum and brown at all.

[LilRip]

I change my mind I don't want reddick. Not for the reasons you guys posted. But I didn't realize we'd need to use the trade exception to acquire him.

If all it was going to cost us is a draft pick then I'd be down.

This team should not be holding onto draft picks. They should be in the getting better now business. No more waiting to see(insert random young player's name) fail us in the playoffs.

We need players we can count on(specifically on our bench). Come playoff time our bench will fail as currently constructed. That means the starters can't have a bad game.

...kind of a hard way to win.

You're right though, this team shouldn't be holding onto draft picks. No need to waste 3 years to watch another Robert Williams the Third develop into....RWIII. Or another Carsen Edwards to become a Carsen Edwards. Tatum/Brown are slowly aging and peaking into their primes by then. If they aren't happy then they will surely bounce to other contending teams.

It's time to unload those picks and start winning now, or this is really going to be a once every 22-year title plan.

Careful agreeing with me leads to the dark side.

They should not have drafted anybody this yr., and they shouldn't use their draft picks for the next 3 yrs.

This is the most absurd approach to trying to win I've ever seen. It's not fair to tatum and brown at all.

To be fair, Brown and Tatum are 24 and 22. In 3 years? They’re 27 and 25 aka they’ll just be approaching their primes. Technically we have time.

But then again, when Shaq went to the Heat and they assembled a veteran team, they won a ring on the back of a young DWade. I think we can win a ring sooner than later with Tatum and Brown if we are able to pivot around them quickly.

[todd_days_41]

I’ve watched the Pels a couple times this year.

Assuming we’d use the TPE to get him (and therefore have to cut a player or two), I’d rather have Semi or Devonte over Reddick, not to mention whatever asset we’d have to give up. He offers very little at this point.

[GreenWarrior]

I change my mind I don't want reddick. Not for the reasons you guys posted. But I didn't realize we'd need to use the trade exception to acquire him.

If all it was going to cost us is a draft pick then I'd be down.

This team should not be holding onto draft picks. They should be in the getting better now business. No more waiting to see(insert random young player's name) fail us in the playoffs.

We need players we can count on(specifically on our bench). Come playoff time our bench will fail as currently constructed. That means the starters can't have a bad game.

...kind of a hard way to win.

You're right though, this team shouldn't be holding onto draft picks. No need to waste 3 years to watch another Robert Williams the Third develop into....RWIII. Or another Carsen Edwards to become a Carsen Edwards. Tatum/Brown are slowly aging and peaking into their primes by then. If they aren't happy then they will surely bounce to other contending teams.

It's time to unload those picks and start winning now, or this is really going to be a once every 22-year title plan.

Careful agreeing with me leads to the dark side.

They should not have drafted anybody this yr., and they shouldn't use their draft picks for the next 3 yrs.

This is the most absurd approach to trying to win I've ever seen. It's not fair to tatum and brown at all.

To be fair, Brown and Tatum are 24 and 22. In 3 years? They’re 27 and 25 aka they’ll just be approaching their primes. Technically we have time.

But then again, when Shaq went to the Heat and they assembled a veteran team, they won a ring on the back of a young DWade. I think we can win a ring sooner than later with Tatum and Brown if we are able to pivot around them quickly.

Saying "we have time" is just ludicrous imo. And I think Ainge agrees with you unfortunately.

Our core of tatum, brown and smart has proven they deserve a better supporting cast.

2nd and 3rd yr. players don't carry a team deep into the playoffs. The old saying you strike while the iron is hot...

Saying we have time is taking the opportunity for granted. And ainge blew it this season and if he continues to groom players he's doing the team a disservice.