Westbrook ejected after rondo incident, 3 days after wall/westbrook incident

[CelticsElite]

Everytime Russ argued with someone, his team is down 10+ in the 4th

Rondo and Westbrook argue: https://youtu.be/0uLvK1HZrjE

Wall and westbrook argue: https://youtu.be/6lkf15ETxoU

[SparzWizard]

No wonder Kevin Durant couldn't stand playing with him.

[gouki88]

If Beal forces his way out of Washington that’s what, a handful of All-Star teammates forcing their way off teams with Russ. At what point is it no longer coincidental?

[jambr380]

If Beal forces his way out of Washington that’s what, a handful of All-Star teammates forcing their way off teams with Russ. At what point is it no longer coincidental?

This seems overstated. You can't count Beal because it hasn't happened yet. Durant signed with a 73 win team that beat his team in the playoffs. Harden wanted Chris Paul traded (for Russ). And HOU got rid of Russ - not the other way around - which then led to Harden demanding out.

I am not claiming Westbrook is the most popular player in the league, but the only example of a player leaving him is Durant. And that is still seen as one of the weakest moves in NBA history.

[Moranis]

Westbrook has obviously been a disaster and Beal is obviously a great player, but without Wall, Washington has been at best a bad team (and often horrid) even despite Beal putting up huge numbers.  I guess I'm just wondering if Beal is an empty stats type player without the cover of someone like Wall (who was obviously a very good player in before the injuries). I guess I'm just not sure Beal would be the right player for the cost it will take to acquire him (and I don't mean in Boston, since Boston doesn't have the assets to do it, just in general).

[nickagneta]

If Beal forces his way out of Washington that’s what, a handful of All-Star teammates forcing their way off teams with Russ. At what point is it no longer coincidental?

This seems overstated. You can't count Beal because it hasn't happened yet. Durant signed with a 73 win team that beat his team in the playoffs. Harden wanted Chris Paul traded (for Russ). And HOU got rid of Russ - not the other way around - which then led to Harden demanding out.

I am not claiming Westbrook is the most popular player in the league, but the only example of a player leaving him is Durant. And that is still seen as one of the weakest moves in NBA history.

The bolded doesn't seem to jive with what was reported in Houston. Harden didn't want to play with either Paul or Westbrook after playing with them. Houston didn't trade Westbrook because they liked Wall more. They traded Russ to appease Harden's demand that he didn't want to play with Westbrook.

Then, being the unhappy spoiled pr!ck that he is, Harden demanded to be traded because he knew that Houston team that was created because Harden couldn't play nice with DHoward, CP3 and Russ couldn't compete for a title. So, he asked to be traded somewhere he could vie for a title along with his fellow spoiled pr!cks, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant.

[gouki88]

If Beal forces his way out of Washington that’s what, a handful of All-Star teammates forcing their way off teams with Russ. At what point is it no longer coincidental?

This seems overstated. You can't count Beal because it hasn't happened yet. Durant signed with a 73 win team that beat his team in the playoffs. Harden wanted Chris Paul traded (for Russ). And HOU got rid of Russ - not the other way around - which then led to Harden demanding out.

I am not claiming Westbrook is the most popular player in the league, but the only example of a player leaving him is Durant. And that is still seen as one of the weakest moves in NBA history.

That's not how I interpreted the Houston situation with Westbrook. From all I could gather Houston booted Westbrook to please Harden.

The cowardice of Durant's move doesn't detract from the obvious visible upset he had with Russ and his boneheaded play.

Paul George also forced his way out

[Moranis]

If Beal forces his way out of Washington that’s what, a handful of All-Star teammates forcing their way off teams with Russ. At what point is it no longer coincidental?

This seems overstated. You can't count Beal because it hasn't happened yet. Durant signed with a 73 win team that beat his team in the playoffs. Harden wanted Chris Paul traded (for Russ). And HOU got rid of Russ - not the other way around - which then led to Harden demanding out.

I am not claiming Westbrook is the most popular player in the league, but the only example of a player leaving him is Durant. And that is still seen as one of the weakest moves in NBA history.

That's not how I interpreted the Houston situation with Westbrook. From all I could gather Houston booted Westbrook to please Harden.

The cowardice of Durant's move doesn't detract from the obvious visible upset he had with Russ and his boneheaded play.

Paul George also forced his way out

George forced his way out after re-signing (and for max) specifically because he liked playing with Westbrook.  I just think George took the money and ultimately thought better of spending his prime in OKC with a super cheap owner.  I don't think it had anything to do with Russ.

[hpantazo]

I love seeing old man Rondo still reeking havoc in the NBA when he feels like brining it.

[celticsclay]

Westbrook has obviously been a disaster and Beal is obviously a great player, but without Wall, Washington has been at best a bad team (and often horrid) even despite Beal putting up huge numbers.  I guess I'm just wondering if Beal is an empty stats type player without the cover of someone like Wall (who was obviously a very good player in before the injuries). I guess I'm just not sure Beal would be the right player for the cost it will take to acquire him (and I don't mean in Boston, since Boston doesn't have the assets to do it, just in general).

You were literally saying the wizards were comparable to the warriors like 5 days ago and Westbrook's move to the east was evidence of stars running away from Lebron. Now they are often horrid?

[celticsclay]

If Beal forces his way out of Washington that’s what, a handful of All-Star teammates forcing their way off teams with Russ. At what point is it no longer coincidental?

This seems overstated. You can't count Beal because it hasn't happened yet. Durant signed with a 73 win team that beat his team in the playoffs. Harden wanted Chris Paul traded (for Russ). And HOU got rid of Russ - not the other way around - which then led to Harden demanding out.

I am not claiming Westbrook is the most popular player in the league, but the only example of a player leaving him is Durant. And that is still seen as one of the weakest moves in NBA history.

The bolded doesn't seem to jive with what was reported in Houston. Harden didn't want to play with either Paul or Westbrook after playing with them. Houston didn't trade Westbrook because they liked Wall more. They traded Russ to appease Harden's demand that he didn't want to play with Westbrook.

Then, being the unhappy spoiled pr!ck that he is, Harden demanded to be traded because he knew that Houston team that was created because Harden couldn't play nice with DHoward, CP3 and Russ couldn't compete for a title. So, he asked to be traded somewhere he could vie for a title along with his fellow spoiled pr!cks, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant.

You are certainly bringing the heat this morning Nick!

[Moranis]

Westbrook has obviously been a disaster and Beal is obviously a great player, but without Wall, Washington has been at best a bad team (and often horrid) even despite Beal putting up huge numbers.  I guess I'm just wondering if Beal is an empty stats type player without the cover of someone like Wall (who was obviously a very good player in before the injuries). I guess I'm just not sure Beal would be the right player for the cost it will take to acquire him (and I don't mean in Boston, since Boston doesn't have the assets to do it, just in general).

You were literally saying the wizards were comparable to the warriors like 5 days ago and Westbrook's move to the east was evidence of stars running away from Lebron. Now they are often horrid?

They have been a bad team when Beal has been all alone (like without Wall).  Westbrook is not him being all alone, but Westbrook has been terrible this year.  There really isn't an argument that he hasn't been.  Westbrook is obviously worse than I anticipated him being.  Like everything way down across the board from a shooting/scoring/efficiency perspective.  Westbrook from last year and the Wizards aren't a bad team.  They aren't a great team, but certainly on par with the Warriors.  But Westbrook isn't the player from last year.  Now maybe he is dealing with some injuries and rebounds, or maybe he is just shot.  He is a smaller super athletic guard that plays an inordinate amount of time in the paint who is now in his 13th season.  He may very well just be totally washed at this point.