Would you take Kelly Oubre Jr. for free?

[Roy H.]

My guess is that GSW would trade  Oubre for a top 55 protected second rounder.

He’s young, athletic, and historically has been a decent shooter. He can play the two through four.  He has also been pretty horrible and Golden State, unable to shake an early slump.

I think that I would pass, but I’m curious what others think.

[Who]

Don't think so. He is a solid individualist (shot creation, man D) with below average teamwork (team defense, team offense). That is not the type of player this team should be targeting. They need team orientated players / glue guys.

[Jiri Welsch]

I wouldn't want him at this point. I don't think what he's shown as of late justifies taking on his salary.

Maybe it's the connection between the two's hair...but I also really want to see Romeo play for a few weeks before swinging a deal. I hope they wait right before the deadline before making a move.

[Moranis]

Probably not right now.  I wouldn't want to use the TPE on Oubre as he doesn't move the needle enough for me.  If the TPE was about to expire, then sure as you could always then use his salary in a trade, but I'd like to do better on the TPE then a backup wing that does nothing at an elite level.

[wdleehi]

His lack of an outside shot makes me say pass.   If he could just shoot the three at an average clip, he would be worth getting.   



But could the Celtics be a team that helps him get to another team and bring back another piece? 


Example:  https://tradenba.com/trades/838N7DnM5   

[Csfan1984]

I would if it also involved TT going out and them sending a 1st with Oubre to us. They would be saving a ton of money gives C's a bench scorer. Get out of TT and extend Theis.

[Vermont Green]

His lack of an outside shot makes me say pass.   If he could just shoot the three at an average clip, he would be worth getting.   



But could the Celtics be a team that helps him get to another team and bring back another piece? 


Example:  https://tradenba.com/trades/838N7DnM5

I don't understand why this trade works.  We are adding $19M in salary.  In that this trade involves multiple teams and players, I didn't think the TPE could be used.  Also, this puts us over that I understood to be a hard cap.  What am I missing?

[NKY fan]

Probably not right now.  I wouldn't want to use the TPE on Oubre as he doesn't move the needle enough for me.  If the TPE was about to expire, then sure as you could always then use his salary in a trade, but I'd like to do better on the TPE then a backup wing that does nothing at an elite level.

Is Romeo coming back before trade deadline? This year? Anyone has some insight?

[NKY fan]

His lack of an outside shot makes me say pass.   If he could just shoot the three at an average clip, he would be worth getting.   



But could the Celtics be a team that helps him get to another team and bring back another piece? 


Example:  https://tradenba.com/trades/838N7DnM5

I don't understand why this trade works.  We are adding $19M in salary.  In that this trade involves multiple teams and players, I didn't think the TPE could be used.  Also, this puts us over that I understood to be a hard cap.  What am I missing?

Tpe is what makes the trade work. It takes us above the luxury tax line so this version of the trade has a small chance of happening.

[wdleehi]

His lack of an outside shot makes me say pass.   If he could just shoot the three at an average clip, he would be worth getting.   



But could the Celtics be a team that helps him get to another team and bring back another piece? 


Example:  https://tradenba.com/trades/838N7DnM5

I don't understand why this trade works.  We are adding $19M in salary.  In that this trade involves multiple teams and players, I didn't think the TPE could be used.  Also, this puts us over that I understood to be a hard cap.  What am I missing?

I am guessing here but the 2nd contract coming back to the Celtics is small that either the two contracts the Celtics 2nd out work for that or the trade is using one of the other smaller TE as well.   

[Vermont Green]

Probably not right now.  I wouldn't want to use the TPE on Oubre as he doesn't move the needle enough for me.  If the TPE was about to expire, then sure as you could always then use his salary in a trade, but I'd like to do better on the TPE then a backup wing that does nothing at an elite level.

I agree with the "not right now".  I think there will be a better opportunity out there.  If we get right to the trade deadline and this is the best offer we can get, and if Langford is still not giving us anything, then yeah, why not?  See if he can give us some scoring off the bench.  But I really hope it does not come to that.

[moiso]

Oubre seems like a ballhog considering his offensive ability.  I think he would make us even angrier than Smart does in this regard.

[td450]

I think it's very important for the C's to allow Langford and Nesmith the room to evolve.

I understand that neither is giving the C's anything substantive so far, but it would fundamentally change the team's future if both guys can give the team productive minutes. It's worth suffering a few regular season losses to allow them a real chance to produce.

So no.

[Birdman]

Have him over Grant, Semi, Edwards & Romeo

[Vermont Green]

His lack of an outside shot makes me say pass.   If he could just shoot the three at an average clip, he would be worth getting.   



But could the Celtics be a team that helps him get to another team and bring back another piece? 


Example:  https://tradenba.com/trades/838N7DnM5

I don't understand why this trade works.  We are adding $19M in salary.  In that this trade involves multiple teams and players, I didn't think the TPE could be used.  Also, this puts us over that I understood to be a hard cap.  What am I missing?

I am guessing here but the 2nd contract coming back to the Celtics is small that either the two contracts the Celtics 2nd out work for that or the trade is using one of the other smaller TE as well.

OK, we can use the Kanter TPE to get Looney from GSW as one deal, then send back Green to them is a separate minimum deal. [Basically Green for Looney in two deals with the help of the Kanter TPE]

Then GSW and ORL trade Oubre and Gordon with Gordon going to us with the Hayward TPE.  Carson Edwards to ORL in another minimum deal.  [A three way where we get Gordon with the Hayward TPE and send Edwards to ORL and ORL gets Oubre, GSW gets nothing]

I guess this all could work but I am not sure.  But even if it does, doesn't this put us over the hard cap?  Or maybe the salaries are prorated so we would not have to add the full $19M, just what is left on the contract?  And this TradeMachine site figured this all out?

If this is true about having only the prorated salaries apply to the hard cap, this would open up a whole bunch of deadline deals.  For example, maybe we could take back someone like Drummond if only a portion of his current year salary applies towards the hard cap?  By the day before the trade deadline, that would be around 50% I think.

How do these GMs keep this all straight?