Should the Celtics trade Daniel Theis?

[BASS_THUMPER]

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[mr. dee]

Theis, TPE, Semi, Carsen, Grant and 2 1st for Aaron Gordon.

[keevsnick]

Its clearly to early to say. But if R Williams keeps playing like this, and he stays healthy up to the trade deadline I' say its a possibility.

[nickagneta]

I would much rather have Theis as my third center over Tacko Fall.

Injuries do happen, lest we forget

[knuckleballer]

I would much rather have Theis as my third center over Tacko Fall.

Injuries do happen, lest we forget

I agree, but I don't like them playing TT and Theis together.  There's only room for one of the 3 centers at a time and just 48 minutes.  I don't think it's a coincidence that Theis' best game came with TT not playing.  They have to find minutes for all three.  I wouldn't mind giving up one of them as part of a package for a legit 4 like Gordon.  It would likely be inexpensive to find a third string center if we pulled off a trade.

It's interesting how much the game has changed so quickly.  Less than ten years ago, both TT and Theis would be considered power forwards.

[Jvalin]

Wouldn't be against trading anybody for the right price. Here's a trade I'd do involving Theis.

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Troy Brown is a 6'6'' playmaker who ain't athletic enough to defend opposing PGs, hence he defends opposing wings. To put it another way, he's a PG on offense and a wing on defense. The Wizards were using him as a 3+D wing last season. That's not his role. He needs the ball in his hands in order to maximize his effectiveness. Is he the ideal fit next to Tatum and Brown? No, he isn't. That being said, I miss Hayward's passing ability. Troy Brown is (very) poor man's Hayward.

Moritz Wagner is a modern big who can play on the perimeter. He can pop from 3pt range. He can roll to the basket. He can post up. He can even put the ball on the floor a little bit. None of our current Centers can consistently shoot the 3 and/or create their own shot. Wagner has the potential to become a useful stretch big in the future. Problem is, he's a below average defender.

Let's face it, the C's aren't legit contenders. Not with Kemba battling a chronic injury anyway. The sooner we start building around the Js the better. It's possible that both Troy Brown and Wagner will end up being busts. I'd be willing to take that risk. I mean, it's not like Theis is a world-beater. Not to mention, we'd dump Edwards' 2-year guaranteed contract. Personally speaking, I have zero expectations for Edwards. At this point, I view him pretty much as dead salary.

Why for the Wizards?
Cause they wanna make the playoffs. They are in win-now mode with Westbrook and Beal on their payroll. Troy Brown, Wagner and Edwards are reclamation projects. Theis is a battle-hardened vet who perfectly complements their roster. None of their current Centers can play D on the perimeter. Plus, they drafted Avdija at #9 who's a similar player to Troy Brown.

[Celtics Mike]

Brad seems to trust Daniel Theis on defence so I don't see him traded anytime soon. Unfortunately he does not offer enough of a scoring threat and is regularly whistled for fouls.

[RodyTur10]

I would much rather have Theis as my third center over Tacko Fall.

Injuries do happen, lest we forget

Sure. Fall isn't a NBA player. But I don't think Theis will be happy playing 10-12 minutes a game from here on out.
He'll be blocking Robert Williams' development if he keeps ahead of him in the pecking order due to his gained status as a starting player.

[RodyTur10]

Wouldn't be against trading anybody for the right price. Here's a trade I'd do involving Theis.

(click on image to enlarge)



Troy Brown is a 6'6'' playmaker who ain't athletic enough to defend opposing PGs, hence he defends opposing wings. To put it another way, he's a PG on offense and a wing on defense. The Wizards were using him as a 3+D wing last season. That's not his role. He needs the ball in his hands in order to maximize his effectiveness. Is he the ideal fit next to Tatum and Brown? No, he isn't. That being said, I miss Hayward's passing ability. Troy Brown is (very) poor man's Hayward.

Moritz Wagner is a modern big who can play on the perimeter. He can pop from 3pt range. He can roll to the basket. He can post up. He can even put the ball on the floor a little bit. None of our current Centers can consistently shoot the 3 and/or create their own shot. Wagner has the potential to become a useful stretch big in the future. Problem is, he's a below average defender.

Let's face it, the C's aren't legit contenders. Not with Kemba battling a chronic injury anyway. The sooner we start building around the Js the better. It's possible that both Troy Brown and Wagner will end up being busts. I'd be willing to take that risk. I mean, it's not like Theis is a world-beater. Not to mention, we'd dump Edwards' 2-year guaranteed contract. Personally speaking, I have zero expectations for Edwards. At this point, I view him pretty much as dead salary.

Why for the Wizards?
Cause they wanna make the playoffs. They are in win-now mode with Westbrook and Beal on their payroll. Troy Brown, Wagner and Edwards are reclamation projects. Theis is a battle-hardened vet who perfectly complements their roster. None of their current Centers can play D on the perimeter. Plus, they drafted Avdija at #9 who's a similar player to Troy Brown.

That's a trade I'd make. Troy Brown Jr is very young, he can really develop a nice allround game.

[nickagneta]

Wouldn't be against trading anybody for the right price. Here's a trade I'd do involving Theis.

(click on image to enlarge)



Troy Brown is a 6'6'' playmaker who ain't athletic enough to defend opposing PGs, hence he defends opposing wings. To put it another way, he's a PG on offense and a wing on defense. The Wizards were using him as a 3+D wing last season. That's not his role. He needs the ball in his hands in order to maximize his effectiveness. Is he the ideal fit next to Tatum and Brown? No, he isn't. That being said, I miss Hayward's passing ability. Troy Brown is (very) poor man's Hayward.

Moritz Wagner is a modern big who can play on the perimeter. He can pop from 3pt range. He can roll to the basket. He can post up. He can even put the ball on the floor a little bit. None of our current Centers can consistently shoot the 3 and/or create their own shot. Wagner has the potential to become a useful stretch big in the future. Problem is, he's a below average defender.

Let's face it, the C's aren't legit contenders. Not with Kemba battling a chronic injury anyway. The sooner we start building around the Js the better. It's possible that both Troy Brown and Wagner will end up being busts. I'd be willing to take that risk. I mean, it's not like Theis is a world-beater. Not to mention, we'd dump Edwards' 2-year guaranteed contract. Personally speaking, I have zero expectations for Edwards. At this point, I view him pretty much as dead salary.

Why for the Wizards?
Cause they wanna make the playoffs. They are in win-now mode with Westbrook and Beal on their payroll. Troy Brown, Wagner and Edwards are reclamation projects. Theis is a battle-hardened vet who perfectly complements their roster. None of their current Centers can play D on the perimeter. Plus, they drafted Avdija at #9 who's a similar player to Troy Brown.

That's a trade I'd make. Troy Brown Jr is very young, he can really develop a nice allround game.

I'm not sure trading Theis away for these players that would make the Celtics even younger and less experienced overall. The C's need more veteran depth....not less.

[Birdman]

No..we “short” on big as it is..

[Jvalin]

Wouldn't be against trading anybody for the right price. Here's a trade I'd do involving Theis.

(click on image to enlarge)



Troy Brown is a 6'6'' playmaker who ain't athletic enough to defend opposing PGs, hence he defends opposing wings. To put it another way, he's a PG on offense and a wing on defense. The Wizards were using him as a 3+D wing last season. That's not his role. He needs the ball in his hands in order to maximize his effectiveness. Is he the ideal fit next to Tatum and Brown? No, he isn't. That being said, I miss Hayward's passing ability. Troy Brown is (very) poor man's Hayward.

Moritz Wagner is a modern big who can play on the perimeter. He can pop from 3pt range. He can roll to the basket. He can post up. He can even put the ball on the floor a little bit. None of our current Centers can consistently shoot the 3 and/or create their own shot. Wagner has the potential to become a useful stretch big in the future. Problem is, he's a below average defender.

Let's face it, the C's aren't legit contenders. Not with Kemba battling a chronic injury anyway. The sooner we start building around the Js the better. It's possible that both Troy Brown and Wagner will end up being busts. I'd be willing to take that risk. I mean, it's not like Theis is a world-beater. Not to mention, we'd dump Edwards' 2-year guaranteed contract. Personally speaking, I have zero expectations for Edwards. At this point, I view him pretty much as dead salary.

Why for the Wizards?
Cause they wanna make the playoffs. They are in win-now mode with Westbrook and Beal on their payroll. Troy Brown, Wagner and Edwards are reclamation projects. Theis is a battle-hardened vet who perfectly complements their roster. None of their current Centers can play D on the perimeter. Plus, they drafted Avdija at #9 who's a similar player to Troy Brown.

That's a trade I'd make. Troy Brown Jr is very young, he can really develop a nice allround game.

We could also ask for Isaac Bonga. Right now, he's ahead of Troy Brown in the pecking order. He has started all 4 games this season and also started 49 games last season. I guess he'll get benched when Hachimura comes back. The way I see it, Bonga has higher upside than Troy Brown. They are both Point Forwards, but Bonga can switch 1 through 4 on defense.

I'm not sure trading Theis away for these players that would make the Celtics even younger and less experienced overall. The C's need more veteran depth....not less.

Why exactly do we need more vets? Do you believe we are legit contenders? Cause if we aren't, the best thing we can do is rebuild on the fly around the Js. This is the time to do it. Not in 2-3 years when Brown will be close to hitting free agency.

[boscel33]

IMO, he's the third big behind TT and Rwill, no, I'm not counting Gwill here as a "Big".  I could see something happening with ATL involving Theis to backup Capela and they move Collins.  He was rumored to be on the block in the off season, including one rumor involving Hayward.

[Irish Stew]

As suggested in another thread, Lauri Markkanen might be a nice target for us. He fits the profile of the kind of 4 that Brad likes. If Chicago is not interested in signing him long term, maybe we should get involved? The expiring Theis contract could be part of that trade.

[SHAQATTACK]

No..we “short” on big as it is..

we big on " Shorts ". tho