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Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2020, 10:39:19 AM »

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Doubt Washington would trade him to the Celtics or 76ers
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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2020, 10:45:09 AM »

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How about a 3-team deal involving Boston, Orlando, Washington

Boston gets Aaron Gordon & Bradley Beal (some help of TPE)

Orlando gets Smart + Picks

Washington gets Kemba + Langford/Nesmith + Timelord + Picks

Something along those lines. Of course, it'd also be a bit contingent on Beal demanding out and having Boston on his list. But honestly the only way I love a Beal trade is you can keep Tatum and Brown, AND manage to acquire a good PF because PF is also looking like a real position of need early in the season.
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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2020, 11:03:44 AM »

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How about a 3-team deal involving Boston, Orlando, Washington

Boston gets Aaron Gordon & Bradley Beal (some help of TPE)

Orlando gets Smart + Picks

Washington gets Kemba + Langford/Nesmith + Timelord + Picks

Something along those lines. Of course, it'd also be a bit contingent on Beal demanding out and having Boston on his list. But honestly the only way I love a Beal trade is you can keep Tatum and Brown, AND manage to acquire a good PF because PF is also looking like a real position of need early in the season.
leaving us with Pritchard, Teague and Waters as our PGs.  not particularly promising there regardless of having 3 top wing players

Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2020, 11:11:19 AM »

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Doubt Washington would trade him to the Celtics or 76ers

I don't think they care. As long as they get a good haul in return

That team is in rebuild mode vs ready to contend 

Just too young in general minus a few vets

By the trade deadline I can see them trading RW and Beal away.  Tank for a top 2021 pick

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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2020, 11:23:51 AM »

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Beal just signed a long term deal. It would at minimum require JB to even get to the negotiating table along with Smart and all the picks and decent young prospects on the team. He will require a large haul as he’s entering his prime, signed long term, and doesn’t have any real red flags from a attitude/behavior stand point.

Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2020, 11:30:12 AM »

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Beal just signed a long term deal. It would at minimum require JB to even get to the negotiating table along with Smart and all the picks and decent young prospects on the team. He will require a large haul as he’s entering his prime, signed long term, and doesn’t have any real red flags from a attitude/behavior stand point.

nobody is going to give up 1 on 1 type return for Beal

Why would you trade your own Beal for Beal?

Beals number/stats has also been inflated in the last 2 seasons because Wall went down with a major injury and Wizards had nobody else to depend on for scoring. Beal had open season

This said, Beal is an excellent talent.  But not better than Brown.  One can argue Brown is better due to better D/two way


I feel like the best offer the Celts could do is Otto Porter Jr (3 way with Bulls for Kemba), Langford and Nesmith .  Plus four 1sts (two form Bulls for Kemba) and 2 from Celts

If Wizards don't like it, then just move on

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« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2020, 11:35:59 AM »

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Beal just signed a long term deal. It would at minimum require JB to even get to the negotiating table along with Smart and all the picks and decent young prospects on the team. He will require a large haul as he’s entering his prime, signed long term, and doesn’t have any real red flags from a attitude/behavior stand point.

Agreed.  Unless we’re willing to trade away Brown, we need to set our sights a little lower. I do think we need another player though.  Aaron Gordon and Fournier’s names have been mentioned.  I’d be interested, but Orlando has started 4-0.  We’ll probably have to wait until mid season to do anything meaningful.

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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2020, 11:42:07 AM »

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Beal just signed a long term deal. It would at minimum require JB to even get to the negotiating table along with Smart and all the picks and decent young prospects on the team. He will require a large haul as he’s entering his prime, signed long term, and doesn’t have any real red flags from a attitude/behavior stand point.

nobody is going to give up 1 on 1 type return for Beal

Why would you trade your own Beal for Beal?

Beals number/stats has also been inflated in the last 2 seasons because Wall went down with a major injury and Wizards had nobody else to depend on for scoring. Beal had open season

This said, Beal is an excellent talent.  But not better than Brown.  One can argue Brown is better due to better D/two way


I feel like the best offer the Celts could do is Otto Porter Jr (3 way with Bulls for Kemba), Langford and Nesmith .  Plus four 1sts (two form Bulls for Kemba) and 2 from Celts

If Wizards don't like it, then just move on
You need to give to get someone with the qualifications Beal has from a talent and contract perspective. Brown has good potential to be better than Beal overall but he’s not right now. Right now, Beal is a much more impactful player on the court. Unless Cs take on all of Washington’s bad contracts, I don’t think there is a way they take Kemba or do a deal without Brown.

I also think it is unlikely Washington trades Beal at this point. He’s under contract for a few more years. More likely they consolidate their young prospects and try and get some one else to play next to him and Westbrook.

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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2020, 11:49:21 AM »

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Beal just signed a long term deal. It would at minimum require JB to even get to the negotiating table along with Smart and all the picks and decent young prospects on the team. He will require a large haul as he’s entering his prime, signed long term, and doesn’t have any real red flags from a attitude/behavior stand point.

nobody is going to give up 1 on 1 type return for Beal

Why would you trade your own Beal for Beal?

Beals number/stats has also been inflated in the last 2 seasons because Wall went down with a major injury and Wizards had nobody else to depend on for scoring. Beal had open season

This said, Beal is an excellent talent.  But not better than Brown.  One can argue Brown is better due to better D/two way


I feel like the best offer the Celts could do is Otto Porter Jr (3 way with Bulls for Kemba), Langford and Nesmith .  Plus four 1sts (two form Bulls for Kemba) and 2 from Celts

If Wizards don't like it, then just move on
You need to give to get someone with the qualifications Beal has from a talent and contract perspective. Brown has good potential to be better than Beal overall but he’s not right now. Right now, Beal is a much more impactful player on the court. Unless Cs take on all of Washington’s bad contracts, I don’t think there is a way they take Kemba or do a deal without Brown.

I also think it is unlikely Washington trades Beal at this point. He’s under contract for a few more years. More likely they consolidate their young prospects and try and get some one else to play next to him and Westbrook.
Beal is under contract till 2023 but that 22-23 season is a players option. He is not picking that option but will be seeking a max deal @35% of the cap. So his team at the end of 21-22 season can give him a 5 year super max or he can sign elsewhere for 4 years.
There is an argument to be made to preserve cap space 2 years from now when smart and Tristan deals are up (and we dump last year of Kemba ) to sign Beal.
Overall Beal is locked in for 18 months that’s it ... so this is barely a leverage on wizards side

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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2020, 11:51:38 AM »

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Beal just signed a long term deal. It would at minimum require JB to even get to the negotiating table along with Smart and all the picks and decent young prospects on the team. He will require a large haul as he’s entering his prime, signed long term, and doesn’t have any real red flags from a attitude/behavior stand point.

nobody is going to give up 1 on 1 type return for Beal

Why would you trade your own Beal for Beal?

Beals number/stats has also been inflated in the last 2 seasons because Wall went down with a major injury and Wizards had nobody else to depend on for scoring. Beal had open season

This said, Beal is an excellent talent.  But not better than Brown.  One can argue Brown is better due to better D/two way


I feel like the best offer the Celts could do is Otto Porter Jr (3 way with Bulls for Kemba), Langford and Nesmith .  Plus four 1sts (two form Bulls for Kemba) and 2 from Celts

If Wizards don't like it, then just move on
You need to give to get someone with the qualifications Beal has from a talent and contract perspective. Brown has good potential to be better than Beal overall but he’s not right now. Right now, Beal is a much more impactful player on the court. Unless Cs take on all of Washington’s bad contracts, I don’t think there is a way they take Kemba or do a deal without Brown.

I also think it is unlikely Washington trades Beal at this point. He’s under contract for a few more years. More likely they consolidate their young prospects and try and get some one else to play next to him and Westbrook.

Brown vs Beal

Not every team would take Beal. Brown is only getting better and is already an all star(should be anyways)

Beal is an all star with not much more room to grow. 

Brown is bigger, more explosive, better at finishing around the rim. Better defender. Beal is a better ball handler and shooter.

Wizards dont really have much to offer outside of Beal.

They like Hachimura and Avdija. Considered their future power wings.

They dont have much else to offer

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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2020, 12:09:01 PM »

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Beal just signed a long term deal. It would at minimum require JB to even get to the negotiating table along with Smart and all the picks and decent young prospects on the team. He will require a large haul as he’s entering his prime, signed long term, and doesn’t have any real red flags from a attitude/behavior stand point.

nobody is going to give up 1 on 1 type return for Beal

Why would you trade your own Beal for Beal?

Beals number/stats has also been inflated in the last 2 seasons because Wall went down with a major injury and Wizards had nobody else to depend on for scoring. Beal had open season

This said, Beal is an excellent talent.  But not better than Brown.  One can argue Brown is better due to better D/two way


I feel like the best offer the Celts could do is Otto Porter Jr (3 way with Bulls for Kemba), Langford and Nesmith .  Plus four 1sts (two form Bulls for Kemba) and 2 from Celts

If Wizards don't like it, then just move on
You need to give to get someone with the qualifications Beal has from a talent and contract perspective. Brown has good potential to be better than Beal overall but he’s not right now. Right now, Beal is a much more impactful player on the court. Unless Cs take on all of Washington’s bad contracts, I don’t think there is a way they take Kemba or do a deal without Brown.

I also think it is unlikely Washington trades Beal at this point. He’s under contract for a few more years. More likely they consolidate their young prospects and try and get some one else to play next to him and Westbrook.

Then you 1000% don't do it. The bottom line is after this year Beal has one year left on his deal, you aren't trading 3 years of Brown for 1 year of Beal. I mean the gap between those guys all things considered isn't big enough to put you over the top.

He's actually not under control all that long. he has this year, next year, then an option. So next year he'll be an expiring. If you want max value you trade him this year, and you really have to deal him next offseason if you hope to get any value.

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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2020, 12:16:09 PM »

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I’m a little worried that Morey will trade for Beal if Harden deal doesn’t happen for the sixers

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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2020, 12:26:43 PM »

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I’m a little worried that Morey will trade for Beal if Harden deal doesn’t happen for the sixers

76ers dont have much to offer except Harris and Maxey

Recycling same offers

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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2020, 12:48:52 PM »

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I would like Bradley Beal on our team. 

But to me the rub is more of an "image around the league nature".  Ever since the Isiah for Kyrie trade - just after giving it all for the Cs and right after the loss of a sister; The image of Danny Ainge and the organization around the league has been a problem (and I am speaking on pure speculation and little to no facts).


....if we trade Kemba now, would it make it harder to go and get free agents later?  I don't know, maybe not?

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« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2020, 01:11:44 PM »

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So It is OK for GH to do the best for himself and his family but not for a FO to do the best for the team?

For the players it's business but the organisations has to show loyalty?