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Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #120 on: January 05, 2021, 04:15:46 AM »

Offline bopna

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Aaron Nesmith isn't the next Tyler Herro unfortunately.

Lookin' like another James Young  :(

I think Nesmith is still going to end up better than Young but in the short minutes he was given specially last night, he wasn't even particularly good even at the only thing he does best which is shoot.

must have been some bad luck with that 14th pick...Langford(bust) and now Nesmith trending to be a bust.

Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #121 on: January 05, 2021, 06:29:32 AM »

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Not sure why this place is so obsessed with crapping on young players who play poorly. Jaylen Brown and Avery Bradley started out like utter garbage - they ended up alright!

Too little too late. It doesn't matter that those guys turned out okay later on, everyone knows that busts are determined in the first few weeks

Next you'll be claiming that Chauncey Billups wasn't a bust. Luckily some posters here have good sense like Pitino, not Bad Brad
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Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #122 on: January 05, 2021, 07:38:02 AM »

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James Young had one of the prettiest releases ever ,  scored in D league ,  just could not make it go down in real life NBA action .

We have had several in the same mold , known elite shooters in college , then they go cold under the NBA pressure . I think the speed and height throws them off .  Everybody has world class ability and speed.

Nesmith got drafted for scoring ,  so he deserves his full chance like all,the rest before him.

Some guys never overcome the talent increase they encounter when they hit the NBA court .  Some like Avery and Smart refuse to give up and make it with grit.... maybe Semi has finally conquered his own mind and sees himself as part of the NBA and is staking his claim.

We ll see if Nesmith is willing to claw and scratch out  his own little bit of  turf .   

Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #123 on: January 05, 2021, 07:47:42 AM »

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Aaron Nesmith isn't the next Tyler Herro unfortunately.

Lookin' like another James Young  :(
Nobody expected him to be the next Tyler Herro, cause he's a below average ball handler + passer. Herro is a shot creator. Nesmith is an off-ball player. I was hoping he'd be the next Duncan Robinson.

As things stand right now, he's a shooting specialist who can't shoot. If he ain't hitting his shots, then he can't play. It's as simple as that. Hopefully, he'll turn things around. It's still way too early into the season. I mean, his 3P% looks terrible, but he has only attempted 9 threes. No big deal.
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Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #124 on: January 05, 2021, 08:09:55 AM »

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I'm a little concerned, but think he has plenty of time to figure it out. I don't see the James Young comps - Nesmith hustles his butt off when he is out there and has the body to play 3 positions on offense/defense. He is also a very smart, well-spoken guy. The shot will come around (at least to some extent) - it has to.

Doesn't look like he is going to have a Pritchard-like ascension and that's okay. It's taken TL until his 3rd year to show his impact. It's only fair to give him until next season.

Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #125 on: January 05, 2021, 08:41:45 AM »

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Perhaps a trade asset to another team at this point. lol.

I am falling completely on board with PP as the starting PG, Smart back to SG and RW3 as the center.
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Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #126 on: January 05, 2021, 09:42:41 AM »

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Not sure why this place is so obsessed with crapping on young players who play poorly. Jaylen Brown and Avery Bradley started out like utter garbage - they ended up alright!

People have too much expectations for them. JAylen averaged 6 ppg  his rookie season and he was a no.3 pick. Give the kid time, it’s only been 8 games.

I think it’s because people a) read he was the best shooter in the draft and though wow we have our own Tyler Herro and b) they are comparing him to Pritchard who plays a completely different position where we happen to have an injured player.
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Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #127 on: January 05, 2021, 09:45:09 AM »

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Rough watching this kid struggle.  He seems to have the athleticism and grit.  I think at this point it’s psychological.  Hopefully someone can work with him because he could be a great shooter.  Danny green was not known as a knockdown shooter in college but he’s developed nicely

Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #128 on: January 05, 2021, 10:38:53 AM »

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Rough watching this kid struggle.  He seems to have the athleticism and grit.  I think at this point it’s psychological.  Hopefully someone can work with him because he could be a great shooter.  Danny green was not known as a knockdown shooter in college but he’s developed nicely

I have the same reaction. It’s been surprising/disappointing to see him struggle so much. Makes me wonder if he’s got good Court sense. Hopefully this is just really new to him and he’ll be fine once he has time to get familiar and can just play w/out thinking too much. He certainly looks to have the physical tools and everybody says he has a great work ethic. I will say, and this is highly impressionistic, but when I saw him on draft night he looked pretty unhappy/uncomfortable after he was picked. Real contrast to the other draftees before and after him. Hope his mental approach is ok.

Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #129 on: January 05, 2021, 10:42:47 AM »

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Aaron Nesmith isn't the next Tyler Herro unfortunately.

Lookin' like another James Young  :(
Ridiculous overreaction once again.

From calling Kemba Walker a "bad player", to saying Washington had become a more threatening team due to their acquisition of Westbrook, all the way to claiming the Nets were the "team to beat" and "way ahead of us", you've had some real gems when it comes to firing off early over the last couple of weeks.


I had to go back and find this quote from Scottie from a few weeks ago because it pretty much summarizes this board:

Yeah, one of the things I really don't like from fans is carrying on wanting someone to get playing time because Player X COULD be like Player Y (when Player Y is an established NBA player). The player X gets on the court, does not immediately play like player Y and gets lambasted for not living up to expectations that were totally unrealistic in the first place. This happens all of the time.
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Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #130 on: January 05, 2021, 11:36:16 AM »

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Aaron Nesmith isn't the next Tyler Herro unfortunately.

Lookin' like another James Young  :(

Completely correct.  TP.

Nesmith is trash and should probably just be released so they can bring in another vet wing. 

Sorry but we don't have 5 years to develop another G-league all-star.

Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #131 on: January 05, 2021, 11:46:45 AM »

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Aaron Nesmith isn't the next Tyler Herro unfortunately.

Lookin' like another James Young  :(

Completely correct.  TP.

Nesmith is trash and should probably just be released so they can bring in another vet wing. 

Sorry but we don't have 5 years to develop another G-league all-star.

wow.  this is lame.

Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #132 on: January 05, 2021, 12:07:11 PM »

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Aaron Nesmith isn't the next Tyler Herro unfortunately.

Lookin' like another James Young  :(

Completely correct.  TP.

Nesmith is trash and should probably just be released so they can bring in another vet wing. 

Sorry but we don't have 5 years to develop another G-league all-star.

wow.  this is lame.
Though completely expected from two of the more....what word am I looking for....sorry, having a senior moment.....now what is that word I can't think of....ogre-ish? No.....gnome-ish? No.....gremlin-ish? No....goblin-ish? No.....

Well, I can't think of the word, but they are two of the biggest of those type of posters that we have here on CS.

Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #133 on: January 05, 2021, 12:37:22 PM »

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Not sure why this place is so obsessed with crapping on young players who play poorly. Jaylen Brown and Avery Bradley started out like utter garbage - they ended up alright!

People have too much expectations for them. JAylen averaged 6 ppg  his rookie season and he was a no.3 pick. Give the kid time, it’s only been 8 games.

I think it’s because people a) read he was the best shooter in the draft and though wow we have our own Tyler Herro and b) they are comparing him to Pritchard who plays a completely different position where we happen to have an injured player.

c) It's the ying to the yang of the fans who have sky high expectations about 1st year production and ceilings/floors of every prospect the C's bring in.

If people want to post things like "Nesmith should start right away" and put his comps as Klay Thompson or Khris Middleton, gotta expect to see the opposite too.


Also I will fight anybody who says Jaylen Brown started out like garbage!  He was playing 20mpg off the bat for a playoff team playing behind a Jae Crowder that Zack Lowe was calling an All-Star candidate and suggesting could be key piece in a Kevin Love or Jimmy Butler trade.  Not to say he didn't have his struggles, or end up in the dog house occasionally, but dude started 5 games into his rookie year and but up 19 against LeBron and the Cavs.  He didn't start off like garbage.

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Re: Why did we draft Nesmith again?
« Reply #134 on: January 05, 2021, 01:21:35 PM »

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Not sure why this place is so obsessed with crapping on young players who play poorly. Jaylen Brown and Avery Bradley started out like utter garbage - they ended up alright!

People have too much expectations for them. JAylen averaged 6 ppg  his rookie season and he was a no.3 pick. Give the kid time, it’s only been 8 games.

I think it’s because people a) read he was the best shooter in the draft and though wow we have our own Tyler Herro and b) they are comparing him to Pritchard who plays a completely different position where we happen to have an injured player.

c) It's the ying to the yang of the fans who have sky high expectations about 1st year production and ceilings/floors of every prospect the C's bring in.

If people want to post things like "Nesmith should start right away" and put his comps as Klay Thompson or Khris Middleton, gotta expect to see the opposite too.


Also I will fight anybody who says Jaylen Brown started out like garbage!  He was playing 20mpg off the bat for a playoff team playing behind a Jae Crowder that Zack Lowe was calling an All-Star candidate and suggesting could be key piece in a Kevin Love or Jimmy Butler trade.  Not to say he didn't have his struggles, or end up in the dog house occasionally, but dude started 5 games into his rookie year and but up 19 against LeBron and the Cavs.  He didn't start off like garbage.

Jaylen did get some run because of his D.  His O was not on level with a starting or even good backup role player.  He played because of his D like Romeo did last year.  I'm sure Nesmith is hitting shots in practice but his D is far behind.  Not many college players come into the league can play D immediately.  The NBA loves offense.  College does not play defensive systems that are as unique as the NBA.  You don't have the level of athleticism from 1-10 on a college roster that you do at the NBA.  Nesmith is a step behind.  No offseason, no summer league, no training camp.  Just come in and play after coming off an injury that cut your season short.  He hasn't played in a year.  too many fans compare him to PP.  PP looks like an absolute steal.  The negatives on PP were he's too unathletic to get his shot off in the NBA and he won't be able to penetrate the paint like he did in college with big defenders around him.  PP had to learn over the years how to play with more athletic players and became a crafty vet at a very young age.  Nesmith relied on his athleticism and needs to develop his BBIQ.  The good part is that everyone is talking about how hard a worker he is and how smart he is.  Huge difference for players like James Young who didn't put the work in and didn't have the smarts to develop into a good NBA player.  I want to see where Nesmith is at by game 50 versus game 5.  He's pressing right now because his transferrable skill, shooting, he knows everyone expects him to make every shot.  The kids confidence is low and he needs time.  I still have high hopes for him and romeo.