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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #120 on: February 09, 2021, 04:44:02 PM »

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A lot of Celtics fans are too happy with feeling good and not winning a title.  Nba is about star power and fit.  Brad has no idea how to do either.  Ainge handed him 3 all stars and we have some feeling good memories and wait till next year to show for it.  Or maybe brad needs younger talent.  Either way ainge and brad need to wake up

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #121 on: March 18, 2021, 01:41:08 PM »

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Can someone explain why Brad has benched Nesmith in favor of Jeff Teague and Semi Ojeleye?

Celtics could really use Nesmith hardworking defense and 3 pt shooting


Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #122 on: March 18, 2021, 01:45:35 PM »

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Can someone explain why Brad has benched Nesmith in favor of Jeff Teague and Semi Ojeleye?

Celtics could really use Nesmith hardworking defense and 3 pt shooting

Nesmith’s defense is terrible, and on offense he shoots worse from 3  than both of those players.  There’s a reasonable argument that Nesmith should get some playing time again to develop, but not that he’d actually improve the on-court product this season.  And to be clear, I want Semi to get DNPs starting yesterday purely for trying to win games this year, but Nesmith is not any better.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #123 on: March 18, 2021, 01:56:40 PM »

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A lot of Celtics fans are too happy with feeling good and not winning a title.  Nba is about star power and fit.  Brad has no idea how to do either.  Ainge handed him 3 all stars and we have some feeling good memories and wait till next year to show for it.  Or maybe brad needs younger talent.  Either way ainge and brad need to wake up
Dude KI was hurt and sucked two years ago. Heyward was hurt last year. Nobody wins a title with key piece hurt. Brad is not the problem this year maturity is.
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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #124 on: March 18, 2021, 01:57:00 PM »

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Can someone explain why Brad has benched Nesmith in favor of Jeff Teague and Semi Ojeleye?

Celtics could really use Nesmith hardworking defense and 3 pt shooting

Nesmith’s defense is terrible, and on offense he shoots worse from 3  than both of those players.  There’s a reasonable argument that Nesmith should get some playing time again to develop, but not that he’d actually improve the on-court product this season.  And to be clear, I want Semi to get DNPs starting yesterday purely for trying to win games this year, but Nesmith is not any better.

Disagree.  I guess you missed him flying around the court.  Running back hard to try to block layups

things like this can be contagious

Celtics played uninspired defense yesterday

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #125 on: March 18, 2021, 01:58:15 PM »

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Can someone explain why Brad has benched Nesmith in favor of Jeff Teague and Semi Ojeleye?

Celtics could really use Nesmith hardworking defense and 3 pt shooting

Nesmith’s defense is terrible, and on offense he shoots worse from 3  than both of those players.  There’s a reasonable argument that Nesmith should get some playing time again to develop, but not that he’d actually improve the on-court product this season.  And to be clear, I want Semi to get DNPs starting yesterday purely for trying to win games this year, but Nesmith is not any better.

Disagree.  I guess you missed him flying around the court.  Running back hard to try to block layups

things like this can be contagious

Celtics played uninspired defense yesterday

He flies around the court because he's in the wrong place half the time.  I like the effort, but not the execution.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #126 on: March 18, 2021, 02:03:02 PM »

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Can someone explain why Brad has benched Nesmith in favor of Jeff Teague and Semi Ojeleye?

Celtics could really use Nesmith hardworking defense and 3 pt shooting

Nesmith’s defense is terrible, and on offense he shoots worse from 3  than both of those players.  There’s a reasonable argument that Nesmith should get some playing time again to develop, but not that he’d actually improve the on-court product this season.  And to be clear, I want Semi to get DNPs starting yesterday purely for trying to win games this year, but Nesmith is not any better.

Disagree.  I guess you missed him flying around the court.  Running back hard to try to block layups

things like this can be contagious

Celtics played uninspired defense yesterday

He flies around the court because he's in the wrong place half the time.  I like the effort, but not the execution.

And you somehow accept Teague execution? 

He was not very good on the D end. On offense he is lost.   Never seen another player double pump to nowhere


Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #127 on: March 18, 2021, 03:49:36 PM »

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I would give CBS another go with another GM....although I don’t personally think he is tuff enough to survive .

NBA is ALL about money ,  fans and rings .  This is not high school feel good ball.

The next GM will be dealing in vets and grumpy divas , people who score points , because he has been told YOU must win , not just show up with a bunch of spoiled over paid college players.

fans want to see real stars .....CAN cbs really coach the best ?  So far I m not seeing signs he can do it .

spo made the leap ,  but he still has the major league tuff guy support from Riley ,  not sure what happens when Riley leaves.


either CBS learns to deal with the Hardens , Irving’s , KG’s , Durants  or he will be fired ,  put on your big boy pants CBS ,  this is not college .

either way I think Danny has to go before he totally screws the Celtics and leaves them with nothing but a empty locker of nobody’s.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #128 on: March 18, 2021, 04:15:27 PM »

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Can someone explain why Brad has benched Nesmith in favor of Jeff Teague and Semi Ojeleye?

Celtics could really use Nesmith hardworking defense and 3 pt shooting

Nesmith’s defense is terrible, and on offense he shoots worse from 3  than both of those players.  There’s a reasonable argument that Nesmith should get some playing time again to develop, but not that he’d actually improve the on-court product this season.  And to be clear, I want Semi to get DNPs starting yesterday purely for trying to win games this year, but Nesmith is not any better.

Disagree.  I guess you missed him flying around the court.  Running back hard to try to block layups

things like this can be contagious

Celtics played uninspired defense yesterday
Effort =/= good defence. I like Nesmith, but he's definitely not a better defender than Ojeleye.

However, I would have played him because Ojeleye is a totally known commodity. He's not getting any better, we know what he does. Maybe Nesmith will surprise us
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Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #129 on: March 18, 2021, 08:50:39 PM »

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What was the point of bringing in Carson Edwards last night. The only thing he’s still on the team for is to shoot. He comes in because we can’t buy a bucket and doesn’t even touch the ball. He’s not here for his defense. You would think Steven’s would run a play and maybe he can get a bucket. Or one of the Jays drive and find him in the corner.

I’m not a Carson fan but he can sometimes get hot.  Either bring him in and use him or keep him on the bench. If this isn’t on the coach, I don’t know what is.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #130 on: March 18, 2021, 09:02:08 PM »

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I think the bad bench is the main problem and six G league level talents on the pro roster that rests on Ainge a lot.   Brad Stevens sometimes plays the wrong guys sure and he was the last guy who noticed Rob can play and is still clinging to the notion that Grant is a rotational player (he is not).   But this roster stinks and even Red Auerbach himself would struggle with our talent.  Red would have figured out Rob quicker though.

Ainge has lost a lot of his luster this season.   I loved the big three era, and Ainge as a player.   But the signings this year is off.   He made a big mistake in taking Nesmith over Saddiq Bey and trading Desmond Bane on a team desperate for bench help.   Grant Williams doesn't produce and possess many NBA level skills.   Edwards, Waters and Tacko and Nesmith would have been more valuable in the G league which we declined to do this year.   Now we lack quality assests and the bench is horrible.  JT and JB have to play big time minutes and it looks at times they don't trust their team mates.

Teague and Thompson have been disappointing at times and servicable at other times.

Kemba looks like a panic move in retrospect.   I think we should be trading for NBA talent for our bench from a selling team.   No one is going to miss, Green, Grant, Carsen or Waters if they are tossed in a trade because statistically they don't contribute we'd probably have to use picks to deal them but look for some bench help.   We have been ate alive by teams with good benches.   This was a problem last year too but not as great as this year.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #131 on: March 18, 2021, 09:14:37 PM »

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BS is neither the problem nor the solution

If he is smart he takes the Indiana job and excuse himself from this dumpster fire Ainge has created

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #132 on: March 18, 2021, 09:32:23 PM »

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They're not going to fire Stevens as there isn't any reason to. This is not a title team and wasn't ever going to be.

They aren't playing well...at all.

In the last 30 days - Pritchard - Robert - Teague - Semi, when on the court with one of the J's are playing better than the starting unit.

They come out with purpose and play harder than their opponent.

My point is the Celtic's bench has an identity...the starting lineup does not.

Kemba is a nice guy.
Theis is a backup.
Thompson just got here.
The J's aren't there yet....they have played more playoff games than the majority of NBA players their age.

I guess we can fire Ainge for "no veteran leadership" and fire Stevens "for not taking the right timeouts" and "not playing my bench binky more" trade Smart who is 0 for 18 from three in the fourth quarter in his last starts...that was quoted on the radio this afternoon.

Finally, the Celtics aren't sneaking up on anyone these days. Teams are ready for the Celtics and their record shows it.

After we fire Ainge, Stevens and Marcus Smart we can tank for some more young players that need 4 years to develop.,

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #133 on: March 18, 2021, 09:40:10 PM »

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Stevens problem is too much perimeter and not enough paint.

I also find the lack of any definition of roles for the players disturbing.

The team is basically Tatum, Brown and three days of rain.

He is a very un-Celtic coach of a very un-Celtic team.

Re: Is Brad Stevens the problem?
« Reply #134 on: March 18, 2021, 09:46:55 PM »

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BS is neither the problem nor the solution

If he is smart he takes the Indiana job and excuse himself from this dumpster fire Ainge has created

That is why he has to go. Not the problem or the solution is not what you want in your coach.