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Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2020, 09:16:56 AM »

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The roster space crunch negatively effected DA in the draft for a second time. Like 2016 the Cs had it predetermined that they would not bring in 3 first round rookies. This draft had the added factor of the Cs needing to move off of Kanter's contract.

Hindsight is 2020 but the Cs best move may have been moving #14 for stronger future assets and then draft Pritchard and Bane in the late first. Nesmith is a year younger and may ultimately be the better player but right now I would take Bane and a future 1st over Nesmith in a heartbeat.
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Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2020, 10:22:41 AM »

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I really wanted Bane. He better suck or it's going to really bother me that they drafted my guy only to trade him.

Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2020, 10:34:43 AM »

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In hindsight I suspect Danny wouldn’t do the trade.

At the time, though, I think Danny was banking on either Hayward coming back, or taking back substantial salary in a sign-and-trade.  Kanter’s salary looked like it would hinder the team.  It might have prevented us from using the full MLE, etc.

I think that with a longer off-season, Danny waits.

Of course, this is all blown apart by Memphis’ trade of Kanter to Portland for cash and Mario H’s minimum salary.
good post, beat me to it (money!!) as well as doing a better job of writing about it.

i think it would be nice to have bane, but in the end, ainge had a lot of moving parts that affected a very tight salary situation. he did not know for sure who would opt in or out. so, he compromised (i am guessing) on keeping his "salary-powder-dry" and let bane go.

i liked bane as well. but honestly, he would have been one of three rookies and how many second year guys? i dont think he would have made that big of a difference that we should collectively be wailing, tearing our sack clothes, and gnashing our teeth....too much.  ;D

ainge was smart enough to take pritchard, which i did NOT agree with at the time, and we still have to wait and see on him.

edwards...sigh...he was my binkie in terms of "underdog wins out!" but i am not seeing anything so far from him. sigh.
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Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2020, 11:09:29 AM »

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Danny gets pretty stupid at times.

People were claiming he should not use all three picks and he got caught up in that notion.

There was no reason not to keep this pick. None. Could have added salary to a trade after the fact, Gordon had no impact on this decision, imo. It was purely reactionary to what talking heads were stating.

I’m still ok with not using all the picks. I don’t think there’s room for 3 rookies with all the second-year players still on the roster. If he cut one (Waters or Edwards, or even not picked up Semi’s option), fine. But he wanted to keep all those guys, and clearly liked Pritchard over Bane, so that’s that,

I do think he could have tried to get a future first, even if heavily protected that would eventually turn into seconds.

I personally don’t think an end-of-the-bench guy will make or break the season. Maybe win/lose a game during the season sure, but otherwise meaningless in the playoffs.
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Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2020, 11:17:59 AM »

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In hindsight I suspect Danny wouldn’t do the trade.

At the time, though, I think Danny was banking on either Hayward coming back, or taking back substantial salary in a sign-and-trade.  Kanter’s salary looked like it would hinder the team.  It might have prevented us from using the full MLE, etc.

I think that with a longer off-season, Danny waits.

Of course, this is all blown apart by Memphis’ trade of Kanter to Portland for cash and Mario H’s minimum salary.
good post, beat me to it (money!!) as well as doing a better job of writing about it.

i think it would be nice to have bane, but in the end, ainge had a lot of moving parts that affected a very tight salary situation. he did not know for sure who would opt in or out. so, he compromised (i am guessing) on keeping his "salary-powder-dry" and let bane go.

i liked bane as well. but honestly, he would have been one of three rookies and how many second year guys? i dont think he would have made that big of a difference that we should collectively be wailing, tearing our sack clothes, and gnashing our teeth....too much.  ;D

ainge was smart enough to take pritchard, which i did NOT agree with at the time, and we still have to wait and see on him.

edwards...sigh...he was my binkie in terms of "underdog wins out!" but i am not seeing anything so far from him. sigh.

Waters, Edwards, and Taco are D League players. G. Williams and Greene are end of bench guys. That’s a lot of roster spots tied up with players that have very limited upside. Not a small sample size either. Time to move on from at least 3 of those projects and take your chances on more promising players like Bane.
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Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2020, 11:21:34 AM »

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Bane was my choice for pick 26. Cole Anthony for 14 and Xavier Tillman for 30 (picked 35th).

Once the C's picked Nesmith (Anthony went right after) I knew we would not be picking Bane.

I liked my mock draft.

Anthony is looking good so far.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/magics-cole-anthony-continues-to-provide-scoring-spark/

Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2020, 11:53:45 AM »

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Anyone else bummed that Danny didn’t go aggressively after Wood? He seems legit if he stays healthy... his offensive game seems on par with Davis although it’s only preseason but Spurs did try hard to guard him

Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2020, 12:13:43 PM »

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Can someone explain why the Celtics traded this guy to Memphis for essentially nothing? He already seems to have more upside than Waters, G Williams, Fall, Edwards, or Semi, all of whom I really don’t see making it in the NBA. Waters is Phill Pressey 2.0, G Williams is a 6’4” PF, Taco is just too slow/uncoordinated And Edwards looks awful. Semi at least provides some muscle and solid D at the wing position, but he’s basically useless offensively. Seems like a huge waste not taking a chance on Bane, a 6’6” wing who shot 44.2% from behind the arc last year. He’s looked good for the Grizz so far too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiv0S7bG85M

Short arms. Slow setup for jump shot.

But thus far shown that he knows what he is doing out there

And no, you cant say he looks better than Grant Williams

Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2020, 12:16:42 PM »

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Bane was my choice for pick 26. Cole Anthony for 14 and Xavier Tillman for 30 (picked 35th).

Once the C's picked Nesmith (Anthony went right after) I knew we would not be picking Bane.

I liked my mock draft.

Anthony is looking good so far.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/magics-cole-anthony-continues-to-provide-scoring-spark/

Sorry but glad Danny didnt take Anthony or RJ Hampton.  I was worried

Anthony looks lost on D. Moves kind of weird in general. Injury still not fully healed or one leg shorter?

Rj Hampton looks like Exum when he started in the league. Lost.  Low awareness. Defnitenly not a pg

Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2020, 12:28:40 PM »

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The guy I wanted was Tillman at 30

With all the big man injury and Timelord inconsistency ... Tillman would have been a nice addition

Grizzlies have done well in the draft the last few years

Celts could of picked Clarke, Tillman or Bane instead

Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2020, 12:53:56 PM »

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Anyone else bummed that Danny didn’t go aggressively after Wood? He seems legit if he stays healthy... his offensive game seems on par with Davis although it’s only preseason but Spurs did try hard to guard him


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Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2020, 01:11:07 PM »

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Can someone explain why the Celtics traded this guy to Memphis for essentially nothing? He already seems to have more upside than Waters, G Williams, Fall, Edwards, or Semi, all of whom I really don’t see making it in the NBA. Waters is Phill Pressey 2.0, G Williams is a 6’4” PF, Taco is just too slow/uncoordinated And Edwards looks awful. Semi at least provides some muscle and solid D at the wing position, but he’s basically useless offensively. Seems like a huge waste not taking a chance on Bane, a 6’6” wing who shot 44.2% from behind the arc last year. He’s looked good for the Grizz so far too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiv0S7bG85M

Short arms. Slow setup for jump shot.

But thus far shown that he knows what he is doing out there

And no, you cant say he looks better than Grant Williams




I would take Bane over Grant Williams. Not interested in severely undersized PF’s who can’t shoot or rebound. He gets abused by legitimate PF and C. It was a wasted First round pick, IMO.
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Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2020, 01:27:27 PM »

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Bane was my choice for pick 26. Cole Anthony for 14 and Xavier Tillman for 30 (picked 35th).

Once the C's picked Nesmith (Anthony went right after) I knew we would not be picking Bane.

I liked my mock draft.

Anthony is looking good so far.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/magics-cole-anthony-continues-to-provide-scoring-spark/

Sorry but glad Danny didnt take Anthony or RJ Hampton.  I was worried

Anthony looks lost on D. Moves kind of weird in general. Injury still not fully healed or one leg shorter?

Rj Hampton looks like Exum when he started in the league. Lost.  Low awareness. Defnitenly not a pg
Nothing to be sorry about Triboy. It's still early and most rookies do look lost on short camp and only couple of pre-season games. Time will tell how these work out. I do think Pritchard was a good pick now (didn't like it at the time). Not starter material but he's got a job in NBA for 12 years. Nesmith looks like he can score more than just a 3pt shooter and moves well on D.

Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2020, 01:27:43 PM »

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Can someone explain why the Celtics traded this guy to Memphis for essentially nothing? He already seems to have more upside than Waters, G Williams, Fall, Edwards, or Semi, all of whom I really don’t see making it in the NBA. Waters is Phill Pressey 2.0, G Williams is a 6’4” PF, Taco is just too slow/uncoordinated And Edwards looks awful. Semi at least provides some muscle and solid D at the wing position, but he’s basically useless offensively. Seems like a huge waste not taking a chance on Bane, a 6’6” wing who shot 44.2% from behind the arc last year. He’s looked good for the Grizz so far too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiv0S7bG85M

Short arms. Slow setup for jump shot.

But thus far shown that he knows what he is doing out there

And no, you cant say he looks better than Grant Williams




I would take Bane over Grant Williams. Not interested in severely undersized PF’s who can’t shoot or rebound. He gets abused by legitimate PF and C. It was a wasted First round pick, IMO.

they were drafted in different years

argument can be made that Grant was the best pick in the 20s of last season draft

Celts drafted Nesmith in this years draft. Who has a higher ceiling than Bane.

Re: Desmond Bane
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2020, 01:54:02 PM »

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Bane was my choice for pick 26. Cole Anthony for 14 and Xavier Tillman for 30 (picked 35th).

Once the C's picked Nesmith (Anthony went right after) I knew we would not be picking Bane.

I liked my mock draft.

Anthony is looking good so far.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/magics-cole-anthony-continues-to-provide-scoring-spark/

Im on the record as having wanted Hampton, Anthony, or Maxey at #14 thought one of those guys would have long term Kemba replacement potential. After those 3 Bane and Tillman where my guys in the late first.

Wasn't a Nesmith guy because watching him in college he looked to have the foot speed of a larger 6'8 230+lbs wing despite being 6'6 215. Not sure he is ever a good enough defender to start or play 25+mpg. Pritchard I have always liked but I think its poor use of a 1st to draft a PG who doesn't have a ceiling to be the teams long term starter. (too easy to find a solid backup for vet min as a FA). Id rather see picks used on wings who can potentially 2/3/4 and are easier to get minutes for and develop. They are also a lot harder and more expensive to sign as FAs.

Now that Nesmith and Pritchard are Celtics I hope they prove me wrong.   
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