Grade Danny offseason moves (poll)

[Birdman]

So far a C for me..like the vets pickups of Thompson and Teague.. Neismith we need off the bench..really need one more vet off the bench like Ersan or someone like that..I’m just not a believer in TimeLord, Grant or Romeo

[OhioGreen]

Saric signed with 6er's.  4 yrs at 2.6 mil per year.

[Vermont Green]

Still too early to call but based on the key aspects that are settled:

I am happy enough with the draft.  Getting Nesmith to me is great.  It is the 14th pick so you just don't know but seems like great value at that spot.  For 26 or 30, all the bigs that I liked best were already gone but I still probably would have taken Vernon Carey.  Carey may well be a bust so I can't say Danny did anything wrong with the pick.  I am fine to trade one pick and fine with the stash pick.

Teague is a great sign I think.  Major upgrade for us over essentially Wanamaker.  I think that is really going to reap benefits for the team.

Tristan Thompson does not excite me all that much.  I think he is much better than Baynes, and he is not a bad signing, just another not so great big to add to the team.  I guess you look at him as a replacement for Kanter and I see that as a somewhat positive move.

And Hayward depends on what we get back.  If we end up with a trade exemption, great, it is about the best you could expect when someone offers silly money to one of your free agents.  I would take back Zeller (leaving us a $10M TPE I think) if they gave us a future draft pick, even if with reasonable protections.  The reporting is that if they stretch Batum, that Charlotte can do the deal on their own.  Not sure if there is a S&T deal here or not.

I think we have the possibility of one more vet min contract so let's see what Danny can get with that.

[Darth_Yoda]

Saric signed with 6er's.  4 yrs at 2.6 mil per year.

Darn. Great get by the sixers.

Hayward ordeal has prevented so many potential signings this offseason. Really hurts.

[Darth_Yoda]

Still too early to call but based on the key aspects that are settled:

I am happy enough with the draft.  Getting Nesmith to me is great.  It is the 14th pick so you just don't know but seems like great value at that spot.  For 26 or 30, all the bigs that I liked best were already gone but I still probably would have taken Vernon Carey.  Carey may well be a bust so I can't say Danny did anything wrong with the pick.  I am fine to trade one pick and fine with the stash pick.

Teague is a great sign I think.  Major upgrade for us over essentially Wanamaker.  I think that is really going to reap benefits for the team.

Tristan Thompson does not excite me all that much.  I think he is much better than Baynes, and he is not a bad signing, just another not so great big to add to the team.  I guess you look at him as a replacement for Kanter and I see that as a somewhat positive move.

And Hayward depends on what we get back.  If we end up with a trade exemption, great, it is about the best you could expect when someone offers silly money to one of your free agents.  I would take back Zeller (leaving us a $10M TPE I think) if they gave us a future draft pick, even if with reasonable protections.  The reporting is that if they stretch Batum, that Charlotte can do the deal on their own.  Not sure if there is a S&T deal here or not.

I think we have the possibility of one more vet min contract so let's see what Danny can get with that.

We wont take back Zeller. Dont need him.

I think if we take a player back it will be Washington or Bridges.

[knuckleballer]

Saric signed with 6er's.  4 yrs at 2.6 mil per year.

Is this another prank? 

[Darth_Yoda]

Saric signed with 6er's.  4 yrs at 2.6 mil per year.

Is this another prank?

Maybe? I cannot find any verification

[knuckleballer]

Saric signed with 6er's.  4 yrs at 2.6 mil per year.

Is this another prank?

Maybe? I cannot find any verification

First it was over twenty mill per year, now it’s 2.6.  Neither makes much sense.

The 2.6 is what he made on his rookie contract.  OhioGreen may have accidentally seen the report of the sixers signing him 4 years ago and thought it was current.

[Vermont Green]

Still too early to call but based on the key aspects that are settled:

I am happy enough with the draft.  Getting Nesmith to me is great.  It is the 14th pick so you just don't know but seems like great value at that spot.  For 26 or 30, all the bigs that I liked best were already gone but I still probably would have taken Vernon Carey.  Carey may well be a bust so I can't say Danny did anything wrong with the pick.  I am fine to trade one pick and fine with the stash pick.

Teague is a great sign I think.  Major upgrade for us over essentially Wanamaker.  I think that is really going to reap benefits for the team.

Tristan Thompson does not excite me all that much.  I think he is much better than Baynes, and he is not a bad signing, just another not so great big to add to the team.  I guess you look at him as a replacement for Kanter and I see that as a somewhat positive move.

And Hayward depends on what we get back.  If we end up with a trade exemption, great, it is about the best you could expect when someone offers silly money to one of your free agents.  I would take back Zeller (leaving us a $10M TPE I think) if they gave us a future draft pick, even if with reasonable protections.  The reporting is that if they stretch Batum, that Charlotte can do the deal on their own.  Not sure if there is a S&T deal here or not.

I think we have the possibility of one more vet min contract so let's see what Danny can get with that.

We wont take back Zeller. Dont need him.

I think if we take a player back it will be Washington or Bridges.

There is no reason for Charlotte to do that.  They can fit Hayward in without doing this.  There is no reason or benefit for them to give up a useful player in their salary range.

Giving up Zeller moves enough salary that they would not be forced to stretch Batum.  As you say though, us taking on Zeller is not ideal for the Celtics although we do get a decent TPE.  That is why I added in the future first round pick.  Or say Zeller and Bridges or something like that could make sense (smaller TPE though).

This is why this is a hard deal to finalize.  Maybe move Zeller and the pick to some other team and we get a vet wing to the Celtics.  Things are possible, but not easy.

[timpiker]

He's done fine.  Losing Hayward hurts but Charlotte was crazy giving him $120M just like Philly was crazy last year on Horford's contract.  I like Al and Gordon a lot, but not at those prices.  No way no how. 

[Tr1boy]

He's done fine.  Losing Hayward hurts but Charlotte was crazy giving him $120M just like Philly was crazy last year on Horford's contract.  I like Al and Gordon a lot, but not at those prices.  No way no how.

+1

By next offseason or two, OKC will gladly absorb GH salary and a 1st for the troubles  . Then flip GH for another 1st via trade

Adding to their ridiculous collection

[Moranis]

I wouldn't mind Zeller here at all.  Injury prone, but actually a quality big when he has been able to play.  Plus it is nice to have a 15 million expiring contract to use for trades if nothing else, in addition to the 13 million trade exception (which could be used next summer when the hard cap isn't an issue).  I'd do that swap and would probably give up a 1st rounder (protected of course) to get it done. 

Hayward, protected 1st for Zeller, 2nd round pick

Something like that.  Charlotte moves up in the draft and doesn't have to stretch Batum (saving that for someone else or just not extending the salary out for no reason). 

[boscel33]

I went with a B. 

What do most teams now try to get, a Big 3.  OK, check; Kemba, Tatum, Brown

Rest of starters built around them:  Starters; Smart. Thompson

Bench: Theis, Williams x2, Teague, Nesmith, Romeo, Edwards, Pritchard

Am I a little ticked that GH is gone, yeppers!  Hopefully we have resolution soon and it involves a S&T, but am I ticked that Danny didn't try to match, no sir.  It shows that GH was more about money than winning or going home.  He's earned over $176 million in his career.  That's more than enough for generations to come of his family, especially since he potentially had at least another $100 from Indy if you believe the rumors.