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Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #75 on: November 19, 2020, 06:49:14 PM »

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I'm starting to talk myself into Nesmith. I'm doing the typical fan thing where I'm starting to wonder if he has some star potential.

I've put on the green-tinted glasses.
- He can't create his own shot.
- He can't create shots for his teammates.
- He's a good team defender. He may not be explosive enough to become a good on-ball defender.
- Obviously, he's an elite shooter. He thrives playing of the ball.

Seems like a role player to me. If so, can you name a role player who became a star? Only player that comes to mind is Klay Thompson.

Here's hoping he's the next Klay hompson!  8) 8)

I mean 24 points a game would suggest he can create his own shot. But I do get what you mean.

Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #76 on: November 19, 2020, 06:51:59 PM »

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I'm starting to talk myself into Nesmith. I'm doing the typical fan thing where I'm starting to wonder if he has some star potential.

I've put on the green-tinted glasses.
- He can't create his own shot.
- He can't create shots for his teammates.
- He's a good team defender. He may not be explosive enough to become a good on-ball defender.
- Obviously, he's an elite shooter. He thrives playing of the ball.

Seems like a role player to me. If so, can you name a role player who became a star? Only player that comes to mind is Klay Thompson.

Here's hoping he's the next Klay Thompson!  8) 8)

there are a lot of role players that become stars..... almost all players begin as role players.

Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #77 on: November 19, 2020, 07:14:29 PM »

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I'm starting to talk myself into Nesmith. I'm doing the typical fan thing where I'm starting to wonder if he has some star potential.

I've put on the green-tinted glasses.
- He can't create his own shot.
- He can't create shots for his teammates.
- He's a good team defender. He may not be explosive enough to become a good on-ball defender.
- Obviously, he's an elite shooter. He thrives playing of the ball.

Seems like a role player to me. If so, can you name a role player who became a star? Only player that comes to mind is Klay Thompson.

Here's hoping he's the next Klay hompson!  8) 8)

I mean 24 points a game would suggest he can create his own shot. But I do get what you mean.
I believe KOC summed it up perfectly: ''He can create for himself a little bit on the perimeter playing off of others''. He can take 1-2 dribbles and that's about it. Here's his whole take on Nesmith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfdnYIIsQnE&t=25m29s


there are a lot of role players that become stars..... almost all players begin as role players.
It's one thing to be a role player cause you are a rookie and it's a whole nother thing to possess all the characteristics of a role player. I'm talking about the latter. Can you name a wing player who cannot create shots for himself or for his teammates, yet he became a star? Only example I can think of is Klay Thompson. He's basically the ultimate 3+D player. I mean, the guy once scored 60 points on 11 dribbles!
« Last Edit: November 19, 2020, 07:38:26 PM by Jvalin »

Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #78 on: November 19, 2020, 07:25:28 PM »

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I'm starting to talk myself into Nesmith. I'm doing the typical fan thing where I'm starting to wonder if he has some star potential.

I've put on the green-tinted glasses.
- He can't create his own shot.
- He can't create shots for his teammates.
- He's a good team defender. He may not be explosive enough to become a good on-ball defender.
- Obviously, he's an elite shooter. He thrives playing of the ball.

Seems like a role player to me. If so, can you name a role player who became a star? Only player that comes to mind is Klay Thompson.

Here's hoping he's the next Klay hompson!  8) 8)

I mean 24 points a game would suggest he can create his own shot. But I do get what you mean.
I believe KOC summed it up perfectly: ''He can take 1-2 dribbles and create for himself a little bit on the perimeter playing off of others''. Here's his whole take on Nesmith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfdnYIIsQnE&t=25m29s


there are a lot of role players that become stars..... almost all players begin as role players.
It's one thing to be a role player cause you are a rookie and it's a whole nother thing to possess all the characteristics of a role player. I'm talking about the latter. Can you name a wing player who cannot create shots for himself or for his teammates, yet he became a star? Only example I can think of is Klay Thompson. He's basically the ultimate 3+D player. I mean, the guy once scored 60 points on 11 dribbles!
There are many instances of something you didn't mention - players drafted with all the apparent properties of being a role player who then develop skills that enable them to exceed that
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SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #79 on: November 19, 2020, 07:33:08 PM »

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I'm starting to talk myself into Nesmith. I'm doing the typical fan thing where I'm starting to wonder if he has some star potential.

I've put on the green-tinted glasses.
- He can't create his own shot.
- He can't create shots for his teammates.
- He's a good team defender. He may not be explosive enough to become a good on-ball defender.
- Obviously, he's an elite shooter. He thrives playing of the ball.

Seems like a role player to me. If so, can you name a role player who became a star? Only player that comes to mind is Klay Thompson.

Here's hoping he's the next Klay hompson!  8) 8)

I mean 24 points a game would suggest he can create his own shot. But I do get what you mean.
I believe KOC summed it up perfectly: ''He can take 1-2 dribbles and create for himself a little bit on the perimeter playing off of others''. Here's his whole take on Nesmith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfdnYIIsQnE&t=25m29s


there are a lot of role players that become stars..... almost all players begin as role players.
It's one thing to be a role player cause you are a rookie and it's a whole nother thing to possess all the characteristics of a role player. I'm talking about the latter. Can you name a wing player who cannot create shots for himself or for his teammates, yet he became a star? Only example I can think of is Klay Thompson. He's basically the ultimate 3+D player. I mean, the guy once scored 60 points on 11 dribbles!
There are many instances of something you didn't mention - players drafted with all the apparent properties of being a role player who then develop skills that enable them to exceed that
Such as?

He's a very limited ball handler, plus he has tunnel vision. I can't imagine him ever becoming a comfortable shot creator.

Don't get me wrong, I'm OK with the pick. I just view him as a 3+D type of prospect. 3+D guys aren't stars. They are role players (again, with the notable exception of Klay).
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #80 on: November 19, 2020, 07:41:51 PM »

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I'm starting to talk myself into Nesmith. I'm doing the typical fan thing where I'm starting to wonder if he has some star potential.

I've put on the green-tinted glasses.
- He can't create his own shot.
- He can't create shots for his teammates.
- He's a good team defender. He may not be explosive enough to become a good on-ball defender.
- Obviously, he's an elite shooter. He thrives playing of the ball.

Seems like a role player to me. If so, can you name a role player who became a star? Only player that comes to mind is Klay Thompson.

Here's hoping he's the next Klay hompson!  8) 8)

I mean 24 points a game would suggest he can create his own shot. But I do get what you mean.
I believe KOC summed it up perfectly: ''He can take 1-2 dribbles and create for himself a little bit on the perimeter playing off of others''. Here's his whole take on Nesmith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfdnYIIsQnE&t=25m29s


there are a lot of role players that become stars..... almost all players begin as role players.
It's one thing to be a role player cause you are a rookie and it's a whole nother thing to possess all the characteristics of a role player. I'm talking about the latter. Can you name a wing player who cannot create shots for himself or for his teammates, yet he became a star? Only example I can think of is Klay Thompson. He's basically the ultimate 3+D player. I mean, the guy once scored 60 points on 11 dribbles!
There are many instances of something you didn't mention - players drafted with all the apparent properties of being a role player who then develop skills that enable them to exceed that
Such as?

He's a very limited ball handler, plus he has tunnel vision. I can't imagine him ever becoming a comfortable shot creator.

Don't get me wrong, I'm OK with the pick. I just view him as a 3+D type of prospect. 3+D guys aren't stars. They are role players (again, with one notable exception).
Many players. Jimmy Butler wasn't looking like anything more than an athletic role player until he was 25. Pascal Siakam went from an unskilled bench player to All-NBA in 2 years. Kyle Lowry was barely a starting calibre point guard at 25. Goran Dragic didn't average over 12PPG until he was 26. DeMar DeRozan has gone from a ball-hog to a point-forward. Paul Millsap turned a nonexistent passing game into one of the better passing games for a big. Al Horford went from a 15/10 big to a passing 3&D big. And those are just All-Star level guys over the last 5 years

I just don't think it really makes sense to try and pigeon-hole a guy before he's stepped on an NBA court.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #81 on: November 19, 2020, 07:51:28 PM »

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I, for one, like the idea of a guy who will move without the ball and nail shots. How many iso guys do we need? We have Tatum and Walker for that. Imagine pairing Redick with them. Someone who is always running around messing up the defense. Even if he doesn’t see the ball, he’s making it easier for Walker/Brown/Tatum.

He may not have superstar potential (but I know little about him), but he may be exactly what we need.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #82 on: November 19, 2020, 07:53:48 PM »

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I, for one, like the idea of a guy who will move without the ball and nail shots. How many iso guys do we need? We have Tatum and Walker for that. Imagine pairing Redick with them. Someone who is always running around messing up the defense. Even if he doesn’t see the ball, he’s making it easier for Walker/Brown/Tatum.

He may not have superstar potential (but I know little about him), but he may be exactly what we need.


Exactly. We need shooters on the floor to stop all the double teaming of our stars and that’s what we got. I wish Danny had kept Bane but I’m fairly happy with the two shooters we got.

Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #83 on: November 19, 2020, 07:55:56 PM »

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I, for one, like the idea of a guy who will move without the ball and nail shots. How many iso guys do we need? We have Tatum and Walker for that. Imagine pairing Redick with them. Someone who is always running around messing up the defense. Even if he doesn’t see the ball, he’s making it easier for Walker/Brown/Tatum.

He may not have superstar potential (but I know little about him), but he may be exactly what we need.

He is exactly what they have been looking for, and hopefully he fills the role. That is who they wanted in Semi, in Hunter, in Edwards, the Cs have been looking for the 'sniper' shooter for quite a while. Lets hope Nesmith fits the bill.

Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #84 on: November 19, 2020, 08:03:10 PM »

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I'm starting to talk myself into Nesmith. I'm doing the typical fan thing where I'm starting to wonder if he has some star potential.

I've put on the green-tinted glasses.
- He can't create his own shot.
- He can't create shots for his teammates.
- He's a good team defender. He may not be explosive enough to become a good on-ball defender.
- Obviously, he's an elite shooter. He thrives playing of the ball.

Seems like a role player to me. If so, can you name a role player who became a star? Only player that comes to mind is Klay Thompson.

Here's hoping he's the next Klay hompson!  8) 8)

I mean 24 points a game would suggest he can create his own shot. But I do get what you mean.
I believe KOC summed it up perfectly: ''He can take 1-2 dribbles and create for himself a little bit on the perimeter playing off of others''. Here's his whole take on Nesmith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfdnYIIsQnE&t=25m29s


there are a lot of role players that become stars..... almost all players begin as role players.
It's one thing to be a role player cause you are a rookie and it's a whole nother thing to possess all the characteristics of a role player. I'm talking about the latter. Can you name a wing player who cannot create shots for himself or for his teammates, yet he became a star? Only example I can think of is Klay Thompson. He's basically the ultimate 3+D player. I mean, the guy once scored 60 points on 11 dribbles!
There are many instances of something you didn't mention - players drafted with all the apparent properties of being a role player who then develop skills that enable them to exceed that
Such as?

He's a very limited ball handler, plus he has tunnel vision. I can't imagine him ever becoming a comfortable shot creator.

Don't get me wrong, I'm OK with the pick. I just view him as a 3+D type of prospect. 3+D guys aren't stars. They are role players (again, with one notable exception).
Many players. Jimmy Butler wasn't looking like anything more than an athletic role player until he was 25. Pascal Siakam went from an unskilled bench player to All-NBA in 2 years. Kyle Lowry was barely a starting calibre point guard at 25. Goran Dragic didn't average over 12PPG until he was 26. DeMar DeRozan has gone from a ball-hog to a point-forward. Paul Millsap turned a nonexistent passing game into one of the better passing games for a big. Al Horford went from a 15/10 big to a passing 3&D big. And those are just All-Star level guys over the last 5 years
I would argue that Siakam went from an unskilled bench player to an unskilled All-NBA player. :P I mean, he was pretty dominant when playing on fast pace during the regular season, but he struggled big time when the game slowed down in the playoffs. I also think Dragic was always a skilled player. He just needed a chance to prove himself.

That being said, I totally see your point. Hope you are right mate. I don't think Nesmith will ever become a shot creator, but I sure hope that he does!


I just don't think it really makes sense to try and pigeon-hole a guy before he's stepped on an NBA court..
Just sharing my thoughts. That's what this forum is about! We all love the C's here. We all want Nesmith to become a great player!
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #85 on: November 19, 2020, 09:11:33 PM »

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I see a lot of the Jason Tatum 1st year game in Nesmith. A vert good shot, quick first step into two dribble drives, good finding open spots at the 3pt line. A smaller wing version of first year Tatum would be great especially if the team loses Hayward. It needs a efficient quick strike scorer.

Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #86 on: November 19, 2020, 09:26:08 PM »

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To me, I think Nesmith could be the Boston Celtics version of Tyler Herro or Duncan Robinson. Run him around multiple screens for a quick catch and shoot three pointer. Kid gets hot you feed him the rock for a few minutes and let him hit 3 or 5 in a row.

If he can get there and then get even better by doing a little shot creation of his own. Even better.

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« Reply #87 on: November 19, 2020, 09:54:34 PM »

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I'm starting to talk myself into Nesmith. I'm doing the typical fan thing where I'm starting to wonder if he has some star potential.

I've put on the green-tinted glasses.
- He can't create his own shot.
- He can't create shots for his teammates.
- He's a good team defender. He may not be explosive enough to become a good on-ball defender.
- Obviously, he's an elite shooter. He thrives playing of the ball.

Seems like a role player to me. If so, can you name a role player who became a star? Only player that comes to mind is Klay Thompson.

Here's hoping he's the next Klay Thompson!  8) 8)
Uhhh Reggie Miller? He had a below average handle, wasn't particularly explosive or strong for a wing of his size and wasn't a great passer. He was the opposite of Nesmith on defence though - feisty man defender but a mixed bag as a team defender.
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« Reply #88 on: November 19, 2020, 10:11:37 PM »

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To me, I think Nesmith could be the Boston Celtics version of Tyler Herro or Duncan Robinson. Run him around multiple screens for a quick catch and shoot three pointer. Kid gets hot you feed him the rock for a few minutes and let him hit 3 or 5 in a row.

If he can get there and then get even better by doing a little shot creation of his own. Even better.

Agreed.

He's not a star. You don't get stars out of the top 5-8. But he looks like a very serviceable bench player who can come in and hit some shots and keep the team in the game while starters catch their breath on the bench.

Solid pick.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!!!
« Reply #89 on: November 19, 2020, 10:20:20 PM »

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Why are people feeling bad if he ends up as a role player? I’d honestly welcome it more than if he became a star.

I’m excited that his best skills are moving off the ball and long distance shooting. He complements our stars and I’m hoping he can contribute immediately
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