IDEA: Trade with Cleveland

[nyceltsfan]

I am not sure how I feel about the following, but I am wondering why there has been no chatter about a Hayward for Love swap with some other pieces involved (possibly one of Cleveland's PGs for Langford as part of the deal, or possibly some picks going either way).

Love is a bad defender, but a very good stretch 4 (or 5) and it allows us to move Hayward and get something back.  Also, I think having a starting 5 with Love and either Timelord or Theis in there would be a very well-balanced lineup and would have less rebounding issues than previous versions of this team.

[droopdog7]

I agree that this could be a consideration and think it might be a good fit.  Also surprised it isn't a bigger consideration.  But I don't think the cavs should want hayward anymore than they should want love.

[Uncle_Stingfinger]

Mrs. Hayward ain't living in Cleveland.

[Vermont Green]

It is the contract.  I would rather trade for Drummond if I was going to deal with Cleveland.

[footey]

I am not sure how I feel about the following, but I am wondering why there has been no chatter about a Hayward for Love swap with some other pieces involved (possibly one of Cleveland's PGs for Langford as part of the deal, or possibly some picks going either way).

Love is a bad defender, but a very good stretch 4 (or 5) and it allows us to move Hayward and get something back.  Also, I think having a starting 5 with Love and either Timelord or Theis in there would be a very well-balanced lineup and would have less rebounding issues than previous versions of this team.

Great, another trade proposal with Romeo Langford as a throw in. LOL.

[nyceltsfan]

I am not sure how I feel about the following, but I am wondering why there has been no chatter about a Hayward for Love swap with some other pieces involved (possibly one of Cleveland's PGs for Langford as part of the deal, or possibly some picks going either way).

Love is a bad defender, but a very good stretch 4 (or 5) and it allows us to move Hayward and get something back.  Also, I think having a starting 5 with Love and either Timelord or Theis in there would be a very well-balanced lineup and would have less rebounding issues than previous versions of this team.

Great, another trade proposal with Romeo Langford as a throw in. LOL.

Not just a throw in - I am hoping to get Garland or Sexton in the deal.  If we have to add a pick or 2 to make it happen, I'm okay with that too.

[footey]

I am not sure how I feel about the following, but I am wondering why there has been no chatter about a Hayward for Love swap with some other pieces involved (possibly one of Cleveland's PGs for Langford as part of the deal, or possibly some picks going either way).

Love is a bad defender, but a very good stretch 4 (or 5) and it allows us to move Hayward and get something back.  Also, I think having a starting 5 with Love and either Timelord or Theis in there would be a very well-balanced lineup and would have less rebounding issues than previous versions of this team.

Great, another trade proposal with Romeo Langford as a throw in. LOL.

Not just a throw in - I am hoping to get Garland or Sexton in the deal.  If we have to add a pick or 2 to make it happen, I'm okay with that too.

Sorry, I missed that.  Sexton not Garland, I'm okay. 

[Moranis]

I proposed something like Love, 5 for Hayward, 14, 26 the other day and I still think that is a good trade for both teams.  Boston gets into the top 5 and gets a better fitting veteran on the team.  Love, Tatum, Brown, Smart, Walker is a better starting 5 than you'd otherwise have.  You add someone like Toppin, Avdija, or Okongwu at 5 and still have Langford, Williams, Williams, Kanter, Theis, Semi, Wanamaker, and 30 on the bench.  Cleveland gets out of Love, gets a short term veteran SF (something they need), and still ends up in the lottery and with another 1st. 

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I proposed something like Love, 5 for Hayward, 14, 26 the other day and I still think that is a good trade for both teams.  Boston gets into the top 5 and gets a better fitting veteran on the team.  Love, Tatum, Brown, Smart, Walker is a better starting 5 than you'd otherwise have.  You add someone like Toppin, Avdija, or Okongwu at 5 and still have Langford, Williams, Williams, Kanter, Theis, Semi, Wanamaker, and 30 on the bench.  Cleveland gets out of Love, gets a short term veteran SF (something they need), and still ends up in the lottery and with another 1st.

I like that trade. I just think it messes the salary cap up big time in 2021-2022. Someone would have to go that year.

I've always thought Love would have a resurgence in CBS system.

[Greengang5]

I proposed something like Love, 5 for Hayward, 14, 26 the other day and I still think that is a good trade for both teams.  Boston gets into the top 5 and gets a better fitting veteran on the team.  Love, Tatum, Brown, Smart, Walker is a better starting 5 than you'd otherwise have.  You add someone like Toppin, Avdija, or Okongwu at 5 and still have Langford, Williams, Williams, Kanter, Theis, Semi, Wanamaker, and 30 on the bench.  Cleveland gets out of Love, gets a short term veteran SF (something they need), and still ends up in the lottery and with another 1st.

Would you rather play for Cleveland or Atlanta right now?

[Moranis]

I proposed something like Love, 5 for Hayward, 14, 26 the other day and I still think that is a good trade for both teams.  Boston gets into the top 5 and gets a better fitting veteran on the team.  Love, Tatum, Brown, Smart, Walker is a better starting 5 than you'd otherwise have.  You add someone like Toppin, Avdija, or Okongwu at 5 and still have Langford, Williams, Williams, Kanter, Theis, Semi, Wanamaker, and 30 on the bench.  Cleveland gets out of Love, gets a short term veteran SF (something they need), and still ends up in the lottery and with another 1st.

Would you rather play for Cleveland or Atlanta right now?

Depends what I was looking for. I'd rather live in Cleveland though. Keep me away from that sprawl

[Greengang5]

I proposed something like Love, 5 for Hayward, 14, 26 the other day and I still think that is a good trade for both teams.  Boston gets into the top 5 and gets a better fitting veteran on the team.  Love, Tatum, Brown, Smart, Walker is a better starting 5 than you'd otherwise have.  You add someone like Toppin, Avdija, or Okongwu at 5 and still have Langford, Williams, Williams, Kanter, Theis, Semi, Wanamaker, and 30 on the bench.  Cleveland gets out of Love, gets a short term veteran SF (something they need), and still ends up in the lottery and with another 1st.

Would you rather play for Cleveland or Atlanta right now?

Depends what I was looking for. I'd rather live in Cleveland though. Keep me away from that sprawl

No argument there.  I lived in Cleveland for awhile.  Not bad.

[jbpats]

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2020/11/18/celtics-could-trade-gordon-hayward-to-cavs-for-andre-drummond/

Windhorst reporting a Hayward for Drummond trade is possible..

[ChillyWilly]

I proposed something like Love, 5 for Hayward, 14, 26 the other day and I still think that is a good trade for both teams.  Boston gets into the top 5 and gets a better fitting veteran on the team.  Love, Tatum, Brown, Smart, Walker is a better starting 5 than you'd otherwise have.  You add someone like Toppin, Avdija, or Okongwu at 5 and still have Langford, Williams, Williams, Kanter, Theis, Semi, Wanamaker, and 30 on the bench.  Cleveland gets out of Love, gets a short term veteran SF (something they need), and still ends up in the lottery and with another 1st.

Would you rather play for Cleveland or Atlanta right now?

Boston and its not even close 

[footey]

I proposed something like Love, 5 for Hayward, 14, 26 the other day and I still think that is a good trade for both teams.  Boston gets into the top 5 and gets a better fitting veteran on the team.  Love, Tatum, Brown, Smart, Walker is a better starting 5 than you'd otherwise have.  You add someone like Toppin, Avdija, or Okongwu at 5 and still have Langford, Williams, Williams, Kanter, Theis, Semi, Wanamaker, and 30 on the bench.  Cleveland gets out of Love, gets a short term veteran SF (something they need), and still ends up in the lottery and with another 1st.

Hayward won't opt in to get traded to CLE.  This will never happen.