Woj: Hayward to Charlotte (4 years, $120 million)

[BitterJim]

https://twitter.com/nicolecyang/status/1330237507477393409

Yeahhhh, Robyn, if you really wanted us to believe this perhaps you would've started this message off a little better lol

I'm guessing that Robyn not liking Boston had a big reason to do with this, too. She seems to run that relationship with Gordy being a bit of a pushover, so I'm guessing she played a big role in this.

Not one word of thanks to the Celtics organization, the other players, the fans, just the people she came in contact with? There is a word for that, but I won't use it here.  lol...I feel sorry for Gordon.

She's a player's wife, and the media/fans in general haven't exactly bee the nicest (see the messages people sent about how she should induce labor, or the fact that someone put a tweet with her instagram post into this thread and people are now whining about it.

If this was the message Hayward had put out, then yeah that wouldn't be a great look. But Robyn owes the city, fans, and organization jack ****. Why should she be thanking you, rather than people she has actually met?

I didn't say she should be thanking me, but maybe the fans that cheered on her husband through 3 injury filled years here.  I just disagree.  It isn't required to be classy, but it reveals what kind of a person you are.  There are also 100 million or so reasons she should thank the Boston Celtics organization.  That tweet just comes off as entitled and petty.

Funny, because that's what all of these replies to it come off as.

Did Al's wife post about how much the fans and team meant to her after they left? Or Kyrie's girlfriend (now fiance)?

[Kuberski33]

We may know about Millsap very shortly.

https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/1330243951568285697?s=20

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https://twitter.com/jaredweissnba/status/1330235233690673164?s=21

Plan B?

He is a plan A guy

Dunno about that. He is 35 and looks to be on the decline. His numbers last year were down across the board from his career averages. It will only get worse going forward.

Which is why they may be able to sign him.

Milsap's shooting percentages did not decline nor did his per 36 numbers.

His rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals were all down last season per-36.

All were worse than the prior season, and all were worse than his career averages. We're not talking about huge drops, but definitely lower.

Also concerning is his foul rate. From 2013-2018 he committed about 3.1 fouls per-36. That skyrocketed the last 2 seasons,  with him reaching 4.4 fouls per-36 last year. And that is with declining defensive stats.

Yeah, I would rather get Baynes back than PM.  At least Baynes can be a solid starter or be great off the bench.  Milsap is a 15 min bench guy at this point.

[RodyTur10]

TP to jpotter33 and liam for their positivity  .

I agree that probably nobody here wanted to pay Hayward 120/4  (that being said, how much worse is 120/4 for Gordon Hayward really in comparison with 108/3 for Kemba Walker?)

Still, how much help Tatum and Brown will be getting in the coming years will heavily depend on how the last three drafts will turn out. The Celtics need to develop a couple of playoff starter/rotation players out of that group (Waters, Pritchard, Edwards, Langford, Nesmith, G.Williams, R.Williams).

[Neurotic Guy]

We may know about Millsap very shortly.

https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/1330243951568285697?s=20

Milsap will be a nice start.  He'll be liked be players and fans.  He'll work hard and I think he'll still contribute for a year or 2 (of course, it's always a risk at 35).

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https://twitter.com/nicolecyang/status/1330237507477393409

Yeahhhh, Robyn, if you really wanted us to believe this perhaps you would've started this message off a little better lol

I'm guessing that Robyn not liking Boston had a big reason to do with this, too. She seems to run that relationship with Gordy being a bit of a pushover, so I'm guessing she played a big role in this.

Not one word of thanks to the Celtics organization, the other players, the fans, just the people she came in contact with? There is a word for that, but I won't use it here.  lol...I feel sorry for Gordon.

She's a player's wife, and the media/fans in general haven't exactly bee the nicest (see the messages people sent about how she should induce labor, or the fact that someone put a tweet with her instagram post into this thread and people are now whining about it.

If this was the message Hayward had put out, then yeah that wouldn't be a great look. But Robyn owes the city, fans, and organization jack ****. Why should she be thanking you, rather than people she has actually met?

I didn't say she should be thanking me, but maybe the fans that cheered on her husband through 3 injury filled years here.  I just disagree.  It isn't required to be classy, but it reveals what kind of a person you are.  There are also 100 million or so reasons she should thank the Boston Celtics organization.  That tweet just comes off as entitled and petty.

Funny, because that's what all of these replies to it come off as.

Did Al's wife post about how much the fans and team meant to her after they left? Or Kyrie's girlfriend (now fiance)?

Who cares what Al's wife said or didn't say.  We are talking about this direct quote.  I completely disagree with you.  Lets leave it at that.

[Big333223]

Do we know for sure that Celtics/Indy didn't come to an agreement? I feel like those are two organizations that don't leak a lot. Is it possible the C's had a deal a few days ago and both teams were just waiting for Hayward to make a decision?

I'm not saying I think that's what happened but it feels like a lot of people are making a lot of assumptions.

[Goldstar88]

Horford, walks for nothing, Kyrie walks for nothing, Hayward walks for nothing...Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, Shame on me. Fool me three times???

Hayward did what was best for him and his family and that’s his job. I don’t fault him for that. The Celtics managements job is to do what’s best for the Celtics roster and again they have lost a key player for absolutely nothing.

This could be catastrophic for the franchise. They are over the cap and cannot sign another max player.  Hayward's salary is just gone. Bucks got better, Miami got better, Phily got better and KD is coming back for the Nets. Boston could be a 5-6 seed in the East and most of the quality FA are gone.

If that happens, Tatum may decide not sign an extension and ask out of Boston. Management not trading Hayward when he could is unforgivable.

[ashanm10]

Do we know for sure that Celtics/Indy didn't come to an agreement? I feel like those are two organizations that don't leak a lot. Is it possible the C's had a deal a few days ago and both teams were just waiting for Hayward to make a decision?

I'm not saying I think that's what happened but it feels like a lot of people are making a lot of assumptions.

money spoke in the end - nothing more to be said about this really - just need to see how we get better now again lol

[Greengang5]

https://twitter.com/nicolecyang/status/1330237507477393409

Yeahhhh, Robyn, if you really wanted us to believe this perhaps you would've started this message off a little better lol

I'm guessing that Robyn not liking Boston had a big reason to do with this, too. She seems to run that relationship with Gordy being a bit of a pushover, so I'm guessing she played a big role in this.

Not one word of thanks to the Celtics organization, the other players, the fans, just the people she came in contact with? There is a word for that, but I won't use it here.  lol...I feel sorry for Gordon.

She's a player's wife, and the media/fans in general haven't exactly bee the nicest (see the messages people sent about how she should induce labor, or the fact that someone put a tweet with her instagram post into this thread and people are now whining about it.

If this was the message Hayward had put out, then yeah that wouldn't be a great look. But Robyn owes the city, fans, and organization jack ****. Why should she be thanking you, rather than people she has actually met?

I didn't say she should be thanking me, but maybe the fans that cheered on her husband through 3 injury filled years here.  I just disagree.  It isn't required to be classy, but it reveals what kind of a person you are.  There are also 100 million or so reasons she should thank the Boston Celtics organization.  That tweet just comes off as entitled and petty.

Funny, because that's what all of these replies to it come off as.

Did Al's wife post about how much the fans and team meant to her after they left? Or Kyrie's girlfriend (now fiance)?

Agree, not a good look.  7 stages of fan grief.  Stage 3, attack family for no reason.  Best of luck to Haywards..  they appear to be a great family.

[Kuberski33]

Milsap will be a nice start.  He'll be liked be players and fans.  He'll work hard and I think he'll still contribute for a year or 2 (of course, it's always a risk at 35).

You also aren't looking for a long term core type of player. You want short term veteran help to support what you have and give some of these of these younger guys time to develop. Brad would be forced to play them whereas with Hayward most of the minutes are taken and you're filling your bench with guys whose main asset is their cheap contract.

That's why I say Gordo departing isn't the end of the world.

[BitterJim]

https://twitter.com/nicolecyang/status/1330237507477393409

Yeahhhh, Robyn, if you really wanted us to believe this perhaps you would've started this message off a little better lol

I'm guessing that Robyn not liking Boston had a big reason to do with this, too. She seems to run that relationship with Gordy being a bit of a pushover, so I'm guessing she played a big role in this.

Not one word of thanks to the Celtics organization, the other players, the fans, just the people she came in contact with? There is a word for that, but I won't use it here.  lol...I feel sorry for Gordon.

She's a player's wife, and the media/fans in general haven't exactly bee the nicest (see the messages people sent about how she should induce labor, or the fact that someone put a tweet with her instagram post into this thread and people are now whining about it.

If this was the message Hayward had put out, then yeah that wouldn't be a great look. But Robyn owes the city, fans, and organization jack ****. Why should she be thanking you, rather than people she has actually met?

I didn't say she should be thanking me, but maybe the fans that cheered on her husband through 3 injury filled years here.  I just disagree.  It isn't required to be classy, but it reveals what kind of a person you are.  There are also 100 million or so reasons she should thank the Boston Celtics organization.  That tweet just comes off as entitled and petty.

Funny, because that's what all of these replies to it come off as.

Did Al's wife post about how much the fans and team meant to her after they left? Or Kyrie's girlfriend (now fiance)?

Who cares what Al's wife said or didn't say.  We are talking about this direct quote.  I completely disagree with you.  Lets leave it at that.

Who cares what Hayward's wife did or didn't say? This is all just sour grapes.

Hayward left, lashing out at his wife won't change things.

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https://twitter.com/nicolecyang/status/1330237507477393409

Yeahhhh, Robyn, if you really wanted us to believe this perhaps you would've started this message off a little better lol

I'm guessing that Robyn not liking Boston had a big reason to do with this, too. She seems to run that relationship with Gordy being a bit of a pushover, so I'm guessing she played a big role in this.

Not one word of thanks to the Celtics organization, the other players, the fans, just the people she came in contact with? There is a word for that, but I won't use it here.  lol...I feel sorry for Gordon.

She's a player's wife, and the media/fans in general haven't exactly bee the nicest (see the messages people sent about how she should induce labor, or the fact that someone put a tweet with her instagram post into this thread and people are now whining about it.

If this was the message Hayward had put out, then yeah that wouldn't be a great look. But Robyn owes the city, fans, and organization jack ****. Why should she be thanking you, rather than people she has actually met?

I didn't say she should be thanking me, but maybe the fans that cheered on her husband through 3 injury filled years here.  I just disagree.  It isn't required to be classy, but it reveals what kind of a person you are.  There are also 100 million or so reasons she should thank the Boston Celtics organization.  That tweet just comes off as entitled and petty.

Funny, because that's what all of these replies to it come off as.

Did Al's wife post about how much the fans and team meant to her after they left? Or Kyrie's girlfriend (now fiance)?

Who cares what Al's wife said or didn't say.  We are talking about this direct quote.  I completely disagree with you.  Lets leave it at that.

Who cares what Hayward's wife said? This is all just sour grapes.

Hayward left, lashing out at his wife won't change things.

I hardly think my comments on her tweet are me 'lashing out' at her.  Dude you need to let it go.

[jpotter33]

TP to jpotter33 and liam for their positivity  .

I agree that probably nobody here wanted to pay Gordon Hayward 120/4.

Still, how much help Tatum and Brown will be getting in the coming years will heavily depend on how the last three drafts will turn out. The Celtics need to develop a couple of playoff starter/rotation players out of that group (Waters, Pritchard, Edwards, Langford, Nesmith, G.Williams, R.Williams).

TP back at ya.

I don't know, I guess I'm higher on several of those players than most. I think Timelord has a high ceiling and can be a Capela-like player for us, only better. He's got all the tools to do that once he gets the time, and I fully expect him to be our starting 5 this year and many years into the future.

I also think Romeo has potential to be a high-level starter. He reminds me of Conley, and I think he can have a similar type of career as him.

Jury is still out on Nesmith and Pritchard, but I expect Nesmith's shooting to make him a good rotation guy and maybe eventual starter in this league. Pritchard is up in the air, so we'll see about him. I think GWill will have a long career as a solid bench guy just given his heart, effort, and BBIQ.

[mef730]

If there were one day to have a 24-hour removal of the no-swearing rule, today would be it.

Mike