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Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #180 on: November 17, 2020, 04:56:34 PM »

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I would prefer that he be dealt to Atlanta for some combo of Capela, Collins and Huerter.  Can't stand Myles Turner.  So overrated.  There is a reason Pacers drafted and are now wed to Sabonis. 
 

Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #181 on: November 17, 2020, 04:59:55 PM »

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Kind of bummed things didn't work out better with Hayward.  I have no ill feelings towards him.  Just unfortunate circumstances.  I always felt safe when he was in the game in the sense that I was pretty confident he would usually make the right decision (even if he was a bit too passive at times).

 

Re: Hayward Option Deadline 11/17 at 5pm (Deadline Getting Extended?)
« Reply #182 on: November 17, 2020, 05:01:08 PM »

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My take:

Hayward has threatened to opt out and sign with a bad team with cap space (ATL or NYK) unless Danny can trade him to a team he is happy with, in which case he will opt in, or work out a long term deal. The extra time benefits both sides: The Celtics have more time to put together a deal and/even select player(s) in draft that could be part of the trade; and Hayward benefits because more teams will have possibly freed up cap space to make an offer to him as an UFA, since the FA dominoes are already falling despite the Friday start date (remember last season FA).

Danny is now scouring to strike the best possible return for the Celtics from a team that Gordon is comfortable playing with.

Most obvious: Pacers

Dark horse:  I think the Warriors. I just don't think they want the picks. They are invested in winning now. Hayward would really fit in well there.  This is where we may have to take back or redirect Wiggins, and swap 14 for 2. 

Who else do you see us trading GH to that GH would be okay with?  The Clippers (for PG)?

Yes. I've thought for awhile that Hayward would fit the Warriors system perfectly. They had a front row seat to his abilities in the playoffs several years ago. He's unselfish. He can handle the ball which moves Curry off ball more. He can defend his position. He'd be perfect if healthy.

I think the Warriors are trying to extract two rotation pieces out of the Wiggins and 2 package. If Wiggins was diverted to a third team like the Hornets and they got the 2nd pick and sent the 3rd to the Cs, maybe the Hornets would be willing to send Cody Zeller and/or Terry Rozier out, with one going to the Cs and the other to Warriors.

Hornets get: 2 and Wiggins
Hornets trade: 3, Zeller, and Rozier

Warriors get: Zeller and Hayward
Warriors trade: 2 and Wiggins

Celtics get: 3 and Rozier
Celtics trade: Hayward

I realize this would be pretty hotly debated on the value, but I think the framework of this trade makes some sense.

Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #183 on: November 17, 2020, 05:01:51 PM »

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I want to see what other teams are interested

Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #184 on: November 17, 2020, 05:06:36 PM »

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A player picked up into the warriors tpe and pick number 2 would work out in a deal for Hayward resigned at 22-25 million per season starting.

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Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #185 on: November 17, 2020, 05:12:07 PM »

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seems like nobody wants to stay in boston.   makes me worry about tatum.

Re: Hayward Option Deadline 11/17 at 5pm (Deadline Getting Extended?)
« Reply #186 on: November 17, 2020, 05:19:55 PM »

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My take:

Hayward has threatened to opt out and sign with a bad team with cap space (ATL or NYK) unless Danny can trade him to a team he is happy with, in which case he will opt in, or work out a long term deal. The extra time benefits both sides: The Celtics have more time to put together a deal and/even select player(s) in draft that could be part of the trade; and Hayward benefits because more teams will have possibly freed up cap space to make an offer to him as an UFA, since the FA dominoes are already falling despite the Friday start date (remember last season FA).

Danny is now scouring to strike the best possible return for the Celtics from a team that Gordon is comfortable playing with.

Most obvious: Pacers

Dark horse:  I think the Warriors. I just don't think they want the picks. They are invested in winning now. Hayward would really fit in well there.  This is where we may have to take back or redirect Wiggins, and swap 14 for 2. 

Who else do you see us trading GH to that GH would be okay with?  The Clippers (for PG)?

Yes. I've thought for awhile that Hayward would fit the Warriors system perfectly. They had a front row seat to his abilities in the playoffs several years ago. He's unselfish. He can handle the ball which moves Curry off ball more. He can defend his position. He'd be perfect if healthy.

I think the Warriors are trying to extract two rotation pieces out of the Wiggins and 2 package. If Wiggins was diverted to a third team like the Hornets and they got the 2nd pick and sent the 3rd to the Cs, maybe the Hornets would be willing to send Cody Zeller and/or Terry Rozier out, with one going to the Cs and the other to Warriors.

Hornets get: 2 and Wiggins
Hornets trade: 3, Zeller, and Rozier

Warriors get: Zeller and Hayward
Warriors trade: 2 and Wiggins

Celtics get: 3 and Rozier
Celtics trade: Hayward

I realize this would be pretty hotly debated on the value, but I think the framework of this trade makes some sense.

Why would we want Rozier back? Hornets move up to 2 and get Wiggins for essentially nothing?

Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #187 on: November 17, 2020, 05:33:13 PM »

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While the Nets & Sixers are believed to be frontrunners for James Harden, Boston Celtics are making a late push for Harden. They are trying to flip Kemba Walker and Gordon Hayward for picks and young assets that would appeal to Houston, frantically.

Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #188 on: November 17, 2020, 05:36:24 PM »

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While the Nets & Sixers are believed to be frontrunners for James Harden, Boston Celtics are making a late push for Harden. They are trying to flip Kemba Walker and Gordon Hayward for picks and young assets that would appeal to Houston, frantically.

Lol.


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Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #189 on: November 17, 2020, 05:36:51 PM »

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While the Nets & Sixers are believed to be frontrunners for James Harden, Boston Celtics are making a late push for Harden. They are trying to flip Kemba Walker and Gordon Hayward for picks and young assets that would appeal to Houston, frantically.

If I were Tatum or Brown, I would be po'd

Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #190 on: November 17, 2020, 05:36:56 PM »

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While the Nets & Sixers are believed to be frontrunners for James Harden, Boston Celtics are making a late push for Harden. They are trying to flip Kemba Walker and Gordon Hayward for picks and young assets that would appeal to Houston, frantically.

Lol.

Its a great way to build up your twitter following.


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Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #191 on: November 17, 2020, 05:38:08 PM »

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While the Nets & Sixers are believed to be frontrunners for James Harden, Boston Celtics are making a late push for Harden. They are trying to flip Kemba Walker and Gordon Hayward for picks and young assets that would appeal to Houston, frantically.

Lol.

Its a great way to build up your twitter following.

Why don’t we get in on the act some year?  How do we monetize this?


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Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #192 on: November 17, 2020, 05:38:29 PM »

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While the Nets & Sixers are believed to be frontrunners for James Harden, Boston Celtics are making a late push for Harden. They are trying to flip Kemba Walker and Gordon Hayward for picks and young assets that would appeal to Houston, frantically.

Lol.

Its a great way to build up your twitter following.

Everybody follows scoop b.  He nailed otto porter opting in.

Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #193 on: November 17, 2020, 05:38:45 PM »

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dude has a checkmark and 30k followers.    i dunno probably nonsense.


ill be devasted if jaylen gets traded.  p---ed off.

Re: Hayward Deadline Extended Until 11/19
« Reply #194 on: November 17, 2020, 05:40:18 PM »

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While the Nets & Sixers are believed to be frontrunners for James Harden, Boston Celtics are making a late push for Harden. They are trying to flip Kemba Walker and Gordon Hayward for picks and young assets that would appeal to Houston, frantically.

Lol.

Its a great way to build up your twitter following.

Everybody follows scoop b.  He nailed otto porter opting in.

I can’t tell, is this sarcasm?


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