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Re: Rumor: Detroit wants #2 pick
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2020, 10:08:26 AM »

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Hayward and #26 to GSW

Wiggins and #2 to Detroit

#7 to Boston

I would make that deal easily of Killian Hayes was available at 7

Detroit trades #26 for #2 just for Wiggins salary relief?  No way anything like this happens

Re: Rumor: Detroit wants #2 pick
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2020, 10:14:52 AM »

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Hayward and #26 to GSW

Wiggins and #2 to Detroit

#7 to Boston

I would make that deal easily of Killian Hayes was available at 7

Detroit trades #26 for #2 just for Wiggins salary relief?  No way anything like this happens
Detroit trades 7 for Wiggins and 2.  I don't think that it happens, but it isn't terribly unrealistic to think that Wiggins has negative value.
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Re: Rumor: Detroit wants #2 pick
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2020, 10:44:27 AM »

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Hayward and #26 to GSW

Wiggins and #2 to Detroit

#7 to Boston

I would make that deal easily of Killian Hayes was available at 7

Detroit trades #26 for #2 just for Wiggins salary relief?  No way anything like this happens
Detroit trades 7 for Wiggins and 2.  I don't think that it happens, but it isn't terribly unrealistic to think that Wiggins has negative value.

at his contract I think most of the league seems him as a terrible contract. one of the worst in the NBA.

So GSW getting Hayward who is a tremendous fit for them personnel wise and saving lots of long term money for the draft pick is fair.

Detroit moves up in the draft and can actually use Wiggins as they are a few years away from really being a complete team. Wiggins, Woods, #2 is a good starting point.

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Re: Rumor: Detroit wants #2 pick
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2020, 11:20:50 AM »

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Hayward and #26 to GSW

Wiggins and #2 to Detroit

#7 to Boston

I would make that deal easily of Killian Hayes was available at 7

Does Detroit have the cap space to absorb Wiggins' contract? If so, then I like this deal, especially if Hayes or Okongwu available.  I doubt Danny has any interest in Hayes though. He may be interested in taking P Williams or Vassel at 7 though. Also doubt GSW would do this without at least getting the 14th pick rather than the 26th from us in Hayward package.

Re: Rumor: Detroit wants #2 pick
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2020, 11:30:28 AM »

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Hayward and #26 to GSW

Wiggins and #2 to Detroit

#7 to Boston

I would make that deal easily of Killian Hayes was available at 7

Does Detroit have the cap space to absorb Wiggins' contract? If so, then I like this deal, especially if Hayes or Okongwu available.  I doubt Danny has any interest in Hayes though. He may be interested in taking P Williams or Vassel at 7 though. Also doubt GSW would do this without at least getting the 14th pick rather than the 26th from us in Hayward package.
If Detroit waived all their free agents, they could get more than enough cap room, but even if they don't want to waive everyone, they have Tony Snell's expiring contract that could go to Boston to help make up some lesser cap space (assuming Snell opts into his 12.1 final year, which I can't see why he wouldn't).  Boston would then have Snell's contract to make additional moves if it so desired or could easily just slot Snell in as a rotation wing (he is basically better than any wing on the team not named Tatum, Brown, or Smart).  So there are options there.  I don't know if Hayward and 26 is enough for GS to move 2 (even getting out of Wiggins), but I think that trade makes a great deal of sense for all 3 teams.
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Re: Rumor: Detroit wants #2 pick
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2020, 12:08:09 PM »

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Hayward and #26 to GSW

Wiggins and #2 to Detroit

#7 to Boston

I would make that deal easily of Killian Hayes was available at 7

Does Detroit have the cap space to absorb Wiggins' contract? If so, then I like this deal, especially if Hayes or Okongwu available.  I doubt Danny has any interest in Hayes though. He may be interested in taking P Williams or Vassel at 7 though. Also doubt GSW would do this without at least getting the 14th pick rather than the 26th from us in Hayward package.
If Detroit waived all their free agents, they could get more than enough cap room, but even if they don't want to waive everyone, they have Tony Snell's expiring contract that could go to Boston to help make up some lesser cap space (assuming Snell opts into his 12.1 final year, which I can't see why he wouldn't).  Boston would then have Snell's contract to make additional moves if it so desired or could easily just slot Snell in as a rotation wing (he is basically better than any wing on the team not named Tatum, Brown, or Smart).  So there are options there.  I don't know if Hayward and 26 is enough for GS to move 2 (even getting out of Wiggins), but I think that trade makes a great deal of sense for all 3 teams.

I agree, I think if Boston included 14 rather than 26 they may have something to talk about.

Re: Rumor: Detroit wants #2 pick
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2020, 12:21:15 PM »

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Hayward and #26 to GSW

Wiggins and #2 to Detroit

#7 to Boston

I would make that deal easily of Killian Hayes was available at 7

Does Detroit have the cap space to absorb Wiggins' contract? If so, then I like this deal, especially if Hayes or Okongwu available.  I doubt Danny has any interest in Hayes though. He may be interested in taking P Williams or Vassel at 7 though. Also doubt GSW would do this without at least getting the 14th pick rather than the 26th from us in Hayward package.
If Detroit waived all their free agents, they could get more than enough cap room, but even if they don't want to waive everyone, they have Tony Snell's expiring contract that could go to Boston to help make up some lesser cap space (assuming Snell opts into his 12.1 final year, which I can't see why he wouldn't).  Boston would then have Snell's contract to make additional moves if it so desired or could easily just slot Snell in as a rotation wing (he is basically better than any wing on the team not named Tatum, Brown, or Smart).  So there are options there.  I don't know if Hayward and 26 is enough for GS to move 2 (even getting out of Wiggins), but I think that trade makes a great deal of sense for all 3 teams.

I agree, I think if Boston included 14 rather than 26 they may have something to talk about.

Even though Hayward is expiring, I feel like 14 might be an overpay. But I would begrudgingly make the deal. I am pretty high on Hayes right now.

Hayward and 14 to GSW
Wiggins #2 to Detroit
#7 to Boston

With the big TPE we could sign Wood and Harris or Gallo or Forbes

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Smart/Romeo/30
Brown/Harris/#26
Tatum/GrantW/47
Wood/Theis/Timelord
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