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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #855 on: November 18, 2020, 11:13:35 PM »

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So - given that we didn't find anything else out about Gordon tonight, what do we think this means now for the deadline tomorrow? Seems like nothing materialized on a trade for Gordon tonight. I kind of wonder if given this and given that the Hawks look like they may be going the Rondo/Danilo route and there being fewer suitors with cap space if Hayward and Boston work on an extension now.

Gordon to Indy is still a strong possibility.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #856 on: November 18, 2020, 11:14:10 PM »

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Draft shows you that Danny doesn’t value bigs as much. May have more confidence in out current big rotation than we do.

Or is about to get a center for Hayward.

Please don’t let it be Drummond. That would be a major bummer.

Any decent chance we keep Hayward?
If they bring Hayward back for a year and upgrade Kanter at the defensive end, that's a contending team.  I'd take that. Still wouldn't hurt to add a veteran shooter.

Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #857 on: November 18, 2020, 11:14:33 PM »

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Boston may have gotten a future first round pick from the Utah Jazz in the deal with Memphis. It's got some weird protections on it. Working to confirm. Also Vincent Poirier may have gone to Memphis as well.
Really curious to see the protections on that pick. If it ain't likely to convey, then we may be talking about a future mid/late second rounder.

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« Reply #858 on: November 18, 2020, 11:15:19 PM »

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Looks like a salary dump. Poirier maybe. That's the price you pay

Never give up a first round pick to dump 2-4 million.

Yeah, literally no team would do that, especially if it's just to save tax
dumping Poirier/Edwards would be more for the roster spots than worrying about the tax

If the only goal is gaining a roster spot, then you can just cut them. Literally the only difference is money against the cap/tax
trading them for a future pick clears their spots and salary for next year.  #30 is a steep price but what I figured they'd use.  if it gets us Utah's pick next year, all the better

Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #859 on: November 18, 2020, 11:15:42 PM »

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I wanted Quickley :'(

I like the Pritchard pick :)


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« Reply #860 on: November 18, 2020, 11:15:54 PM »

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« Reply #861 on: November 18, 2020, 11:16:39 PM »

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« Reply #862 on: November 18, 2020, 11:16:51 PM »

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Keith Smith :

Boston may have gotten a future first round pick from the Utah Jazz in the deal with Memphis. It's got some weird protections on it. Working to confirm. Also Vincent Poirier may have gone to Memphis as well.
Really curious to see the protections on that pick. If it ain't likely to convey, then we may be talking about a future mid/late second rounder.

I have them on an earlier page, but TS basically guaranteed to convey at some point, probably either next year (if the miss the playoffs and don't win the lottery) or the year after
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« Reply #863 on: November 18, 2020, 11:17:06 PM »

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Noooooooooòo Tillman  :(
He wouldn't last till #47, so meh whatever...

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« Reply #864 on: November 18, 2020, 11:17:33 PM »

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Pritchard isn’t some scrub.  He led the PAC-10 in both scoring and assists.  Good finisher, good ball-handler, good defender in college.  Dirt dog.
Yeah, people are acting as if he's some random potato.

So mad that we missed on Tillman though
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« Reply #865 on: November 18, 2020, 11:17:38 PM »

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Keith Smith :

Boston may have gotten a future first round pick from the Utah Jazz in the deal with Memphis. It's got some weird protections on it. Working to confirm. Also Vincent Poirier may have gone to Memphis as well.
if this is true, ainge did well. any first round pick is better than this year's first round pick. and dumping poirier? priceless.  ;D
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« Reply #866 on: November 18, 2020, 11:18:09 PM »

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So - given that we didn't find anything else out about Gordon tonight, what do we think this means now for the deadline tomorrow? Seems like nothing materialized on a trade for Gordon tonight. I kind of wonder if given this and given that the Hawks look like they may be going the Rondo/Danilo route and there being fewer suitors with cap space if Hayward and Boston work on an extension now.

Gordon to Indy is still a strong possibility.

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« Reply #867 on: November 18, 2020, 11:18:15 PM »

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #868 on: November 18, 2020, 11:19:57 PM »

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Memphis has a protected Jazz pick next year (1-7, then 1-6, then 1-3, then 1, then becomes 2 seconds).

Could be that pick, or something with swaps. I doubt they give their own pick straight up.

If this is the trade - even if we need to include a 2nd - I would cry with joy. Bane at 30 is great value so maybe MEM is happy to give up that Utah pick for him.

Just a quick correction (sorry, I'm usually asleep by now): next year's protections are 1-7 AND 15-30 (so pick needs to be 8-14 to convey). All others are correct

If this is the one, then cue the Utah Jazz watch thread!

Any pick works for me. Those are certainly some interesting protections. Thanks and tp for keeping us informed BJ!

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« Reply #869 on: November 18, 2020, 11:20:18 PM »

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Looks like a salary dump. Poirier maybe. That's the price you pay

Never give up a first round pick to dump 2-4 million.

Yeah, literally no team would do that, especially if it's just to save tax
dumping Poirier/Edwards would be more for the roster spots than worrying about the tax

If the only goal is gaining a roster spot, then you can just cut them. Literally the only difference is money against the cap/tax
trading them for a future pick clears their spots and salary for next year.  #30 is a steep price but what I figured they'd use.  if it gets us Utah's pick next year, all the better

That's trading a pick for a pick and having them as a throw in, not trading a pick to dump them and then having a future pick as a throw in. I'd bet that we throw in cash, like we would have in any deal to dump them.
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