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Re: Does Hayward pickup his player option or leave for a longer contract?
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2020, 11:21:10 AM »

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Tim Bontemps and Jared Weiss both indicated in articles today that Hayward is “likely” to opt in.  That’s probably conjecture though.

https://theathletic.com/2094389/2020/09/27/celtics-eliminated-but-still-have-promising-future/

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29991296/late-game-lapses-doom-celtics-again-game-6-loss-heat-respond-way-have


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Re: Does Hayward pickup his player option or leave for a longer contract?
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2020, 11:38:00 AM »

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If I’m Hayward, I absolutely take the money. Winning situation, getting paid the most he can possibly make, and he didn’t exactly leave the best impression.

He’s still going to get paid after next year.
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Re: Does Hayward pickup his player option or leave for a longer contract?
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2020, 11:48:49 AM »

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he's going to opt in.  no way he's going to get an offer from another team close to making up for the pay cut he'd take in the revised cap during Covid.

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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2020, 12:50:38 PM »

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Think the Hayward opts in and Cs try to extend him for a lower AAV.
I don’t think ownership will let danny do that. Unless Hayward takes a 7-8 M a year contract after next season I think he’s gone sooner or later before next season starts.

Huh?? You really think Hayward is only worth $8 mil per??? I think the Cs can get Hayward on an 3 year extension worth around $20 mil per. I think that’s roughly what he’s worth.
If he opts in and has another year like this one he is a MLE player.
He averaged 18,6,5 as the 4th option on the Cs while shooting at a 50/38/86 clip. He’s worth significantly more than the MLE and he’ll get it in this league.
And can't stay healthy. What is the point of being good for 40 games when the season is 82+.

Re: Does Hayward pickup his player option or leave for a longer contract?
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2020, 01:13:12 PM »

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I think he'll pick up the option.  It's a no brainer, unless he's just done with Boston for any reason. 

Dude is set to make $34M next season, and this will most likely be a rough financial environment for free agents because of covid.  He's won't be anywhere close to that number if he leaves.
It's absolutely a no brainer. And if he has a good year, he's looking at one more good contract.  Now if he wants to raise his family here then he might have some incentive to go to the Celtics and talk about an extension but in this economic environment with no arena revenue and not guarantees on when that revenue will return - I doubt that the Celtics are interested. So you take the $34 million and revisit after the season.

Re: Does Hayward pickup his player option or leave for a longer contract?
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2020, 01:18:41 PM »

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I still say the Cs will attempt to shop him around to see what's available. They may very well come up empty, but cutting some of that salary while also picking up a useful player might be of interest to the Cs moving forward.

On this team, Hayward is a luxury and unfortunately we are paying a luxury price tag for him. I'm just not sure what deal is realistically out there that could move the needle for us in a positive direction.

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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2020, 01:44:19 PM »

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The only two scenarios I could possibly see Hayward opting out under would be: (A) he really loves playing in Boston and is willing to do the team a solid and renegotiate a longer term contract for less money or (B) he thinks there is a solid chance whatever contract he could get this free agent period won't be there for him in the following free agent period.

I don't think scenario 'B' is at all likely, so it really come down to scenario (A). Players shouldn't be doing owners any favors, though, in my opinion.

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2020, 06:46:43 PM »

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I think he'll opt in - that's a lot of money. Who here would pass on that? I also think he'll stay here until he retires. Just a gut feeling
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Re: Does Hayward pickup his player option or leave for a longer contract?
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2020, 07:12:41 PM »

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I still say the Cs will attempt to shop him around to see what's available. They may very well come up empty, but cutting some of that salary while also picking up a useful player might be of interest to the Cs moving forward.

On this team, Hayward is a luxury and unfortunately we are paying a luxury price tag for him. I'm just not sure what deal is realistically out there that could move the needle for us in a positive direction.

Dunno if there's a deal but if there's a team with a few reasonable productive veteran role players with 2-3 years left on their deals and they want to trade for Hayward's expiring, I'd be all over that.
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2020, 08:07:17 PM »

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I still say the Cs will attempt to shop him around to see what's available. They may very well come up empty, but cutting some of that salary while also picking up a useful player might be of interest to the Cs moving forward.

On this team, Hayward is a luxury and unfortunately we are paying a luxury price tag for him. I'm just not sure what deal is realistically out there that could move the needle for us in a positive direction.

Dunno if there's a deal but if there's a team with a few reasonable productive veteran role players with 2-3 years left on their deals and they want to trade for Hayward's expiring, I'd be all over that.
The only trade partners I can think of are Denver, Philly and Indy.
Philly is crossed off immediately because we don’t want Horfords or T Harris contracts .
Denver can send us Garry Harris and Will Barton but why would they create a while at the 2 spot and what can we do with those 2 (decent players btw)
And that leaves us with Indy . I don’t think we can pry away Turner without including the draft picks we have this year... so maybe Oladipo and a filler for Hayward.. this is the only realistic one I can think that works for both teams.
Most likely Hayward is staying.

Re: Does Hayward pickup his player option or leave for a longer contract?
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2020, 08:29:06 PM »

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He'll opt in. That's way too much money to pass up.

He will still have a decent contract after that, either with us or somewhere else, as Gordon Hayward is still a very good player.
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Re: Does Hayward pickup his player option or leave for a longer contract?
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2020, 08:46:01 PM »

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I still say the Cs will attempt to shop him around to see what's available. They may very well come up empty, but cutting some of that salary while also picking up a useful player might be of interest to the Cs moving forward.

On this team, Hayward is a luxury and unfortunately we are paying a luxury price tag for him. I'm just not sure what deal is realistically out there that could move the needle for us in a positive direction.

Dunno if there's a deal but if there's a team with a few reasonable productive veteran role players with 2-3 years left on their deals and they want to trade for Hayward's expiring, I'd be all over that.
The only trade partners I can think of are Denver, Philly and Indy.
Philly is crossed off immediately because we don’t want Horfords or T Harris contracts .
Denver can send us Garry Harris and Will Barton but why would they create a while at the 2 spot and what can we do with those 2 (decent players btw)
And that leaves us with Indy . I don’t think we can pry away Turner without including the draft picks we have this year... so maybe Oladipo and a filler for Hayward.. this is the only realistic one I can think that works for both teams.
Most likely Hayward is staying.

I might be the only one, but I think Al Horford will pick up where he left off with us if he comes back. The contract length is a bit steep, but if Wyc would be willing to pay the luxury tax, I wouldn't mind having him back. I think he's bad play with the Sixers is due to the fact that he's a terrible fit there, but with us, taking over the Daniel Theis role, he'd be perfect.
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Re: Does Hayward pickup his player option or leave for a longer contract?
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2020, 09:04:53 PM »

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I still say the Cs will attempt to shop him around to see what's available. They may very well come up empty, but cutting some of that salary while also picking up a useful player might be of interest to the Cs moving forward.

On this team, Hayward is a luxury and unfortunately we are paying a luxury price tag for him. I'm just not sure what deal is realistically out there that could move the needle for us in a positive direction.

Dunno if there's a deal but if there's a team with a few reasonable productive veteran role players with 2-3 years left on their deals and they want to trade for Hayward's expiring, I'd be all over that.
The only trade partners I can think of are Denver, Philly and Indy.
Philly is crossed off immediately because we don’t want Horfords or T Harris contracts .
Denver can send us Garry Harris and Will Barton but why would they create a while at the 2 spot and what can we do with those 2 (decent players btw)
And that leaves us with Indy . I don’t think we can pry away Turner without including the draft picks we have this year... so maybe Oladipo and a filler for Hayward.. this is the only realistic one I can think that works for both teams.
Most likely Hayward is staying.

I might be the only one, but I think Al Horford will pick up where he left off with us if he comes back. The contract length is a bit steep, but if Wyc would be willing to pay the luxury tax, I wouldn't mind having him back. I think he's bad play with the Sixers is due to the fact that he's a terrible fit there, but with us, taking over the Daniel Theis role, he'd be perfect.
Yuck, no thanks. He's 34, slower than ever, finds it harder to find the space needed for him to get off his slow-release shots from deep, and is contracted through age 37. Plus, he left us for Philly of all places. He can rot there
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Re: Does Hayward pickup his player option or leave for a longer contract?
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2020, 09:43:08 PM »

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I still say the Cs will attempt to shop him around to see what's available. They may very well come up empty, but cutting some of that salary while also picking up a useful player might be of interest to the Cs moving forward.

On this team, Hayward is a luxury and unfortunately we are paying a luxury price tag for him. I'm just not sure what deal is realistically out there that could move the needle for us in a positive direction.

Dunno if there's a deal but if there's a team with a few reasonable productive veteran role players with 2-3 years left on their deals and they want to trade for Hayward's expiring, I'd be all over that.
The only trade partners I can think of are Denver, Philly and Indy.
Philly is crossed off immediately because we don’t want Horfords or T Harris contracts .
Denver can send us Garry Harris and Will Barton but why would they create a while at the 2 spot and what can we do with those 2 (decent players btw)
And that leaves us with Indy . I don’t think we can pry away Turner without including the draft picks we have this year... so maybe Oladipo and a filler for Hayward.. this is the only realistic one I can think that works for both teams.
Most likely Hayward is staying.

If you trade Hayward for Turner, you would need to add salary to make it work under the cap. Lamb and McDermott could work. I’m not sure I would make that deal because Turner has been so uneven. If he was determined to max out his talent and healthy I would do it, but not otherwise. I would not worry about adding a pick or two in the late first. Turner is under contract three years, and McDermott seems like a playable off the bench sharpshooter - over 40% his past two seasons from 3. Both of them ready now, as our window is opening.

Just don’t know enough about Turner to know if he’s got the right stuff to compete deep in the playoffs.

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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2020, 03:18:12 AM »

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Think the Hayward opts in and Cs try to extend him for a lower AAV.
I don’t think ownership will let danny do that. Unless Hayward takes a 7-8 M a year contract after next season I think he’s gone sooner or later before next season starts.

Huh?? You really think Hayward is only worth $8 mil per??? I think the Cs can get Hayward on an 3 year extension worth around $20 mil per. I think that’s roughly what he’s worth.
If he opts in and has another year like this one he is a MLE player.
He averaged 18,6,5 as the 4th option on the Cs while shooting at a 50/38/86 clip. He’s worth significantly more than the MLE and he’ll get it in this league.
And can't stay healthy. What is the point of being good for 40 games when the season is 82+.

Hayward has only once played 40 games or less, it was when he broke his ankle.

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