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Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2020, 10:23:20 PM »

Offline Uncle_Stingfinger

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Salary wise you'd have to think about moving Hayward, Smart or Kemba.  Or some combo.

Man,  kemba was bad. 

Also,  does Tatum like Boston?   I get a Mookie vibe sometimes. I'd do what he wants so he will stay. 

Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2020, 10:23:40 PM »

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Team needs a legit center. The NBA is going big again.
3-4 teams remaining had 3 of the best centers in the NBA - Jokic, Bam And AD

Positionless Golden State Era basketball is over with. Make some trades get a legit big who can shoot and grab some boards.

And pray Hayward opts out

Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2020, 10:25:42 PM »

Offline Uncle_Stingfinger

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Team needs a legit center. The NBA is going big again.
3-4 teams remaining had 3 of the best centers in the NBA - Jokic, Bam And AD

Positionless Golden State Era basketball is over with. Make some trades get a legit big who can shoot and grab some boards.

And pray Hayward opts out

You think that Smart for Capela trade would have changed this series?

Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2020, 10:28:21 PM »

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Jayson Tatum in his 3rd year, Jaylen in his 4th, and they're at their ceiling?


Definitely need to make some changes in the supporting cast, and they really need to work on better strategies for closing out games, but it's way too soon to say this group has hit its ceiling.
You can't win a championship with a strategy of living and dying by the 3s. Brads needs to tweek his whole offensive philosophy or held his players accountable for consistently making wrong plays or else they will continuously underachieve l. (Smart 3s, Tatum iso). It's the wrong habits that led OKC to squander their chances for a ring back then and it's taking its toll on teams like Houston too.

I'm not saying fire Brad. I'm saying is he need a better game plan than sticking to analytics.

We are far from the group of over achievers of yesteryears now.

And Danny better start looking for veteran support now.

Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2020, 10:29:18 PM »

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Done with hoping Hayward gets back to his Utah days....if we trade him, he will be an all star again...if we keep him, he will get injured again.
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Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2020, 10:30:04 PM »

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Team needs a legit center. The NBA is going big again.
3-4 teams remaining had 3 of the best centers in the NBA - Jokic, Bam And AD

Positionless Golden State Era basketball is over with. Make some trades get a legit big who can shoot and grab some boards.

And pray Hayward opts out

You think that Smart for Capela trade would have changed this series?

Ehhhhh maybe? Not that I’m big on capela but I thought smart was pretty awful this series.

Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2020, 10:30:07 PM »

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Jayson Tatum in his 3rd year, Jaylen in his 4th, and they're at their ceiling?


Definitely need to make some changes in the supporting cast, and they really need to work on better strategies for closing out games, but it's way too soon to say this group has hit its ceiling.
You can't win a championship with a strategy of living and dying by the 3s. Brads needs to tweek his whole offensive philosophy or held his players accountable for consistently making wrong plays or else they will continuously underachieve l. (Smart 3s, Tatum iso). It's the wrong habits that led OKC to squander their chances for a ring back then and it's taking its toll on teams like Houston too.

I'm not saying fire Brad. I'm saying is he need a better game plan than sticking to analytics.

We are far from the group of over achievers of yesteryears now.

And Danny better start looking for veteran support now.


I don't think we're disagreeing. The team needs to make some serious changes to the supporting cast and the game plan.

But the core guys are good enough in my opinion, and they're gonna get better.
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Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2020, 10:31:51 PM »

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Jayson Tatum in his 3rd year, Jaylen in his 4th, and they're at their ceiling?


Definitely need to make some changes in the supporting cast, and they really need to work on better strategies for closing out games, but it's way too soon to say this group has hit its ceiling.
You can't win a championship with a strategy of living and dying by the 3s. Brads needs to tweek his whole offensive philosophy or held his players accountable for consistently making wrong plays or else they will continuously underachieve l. (Smart 3s, Tatum iso). It's the wrong habits that led OKC to squander their chances for a ring back then and it's taking its toll on teams like Houston too.

I'm not saying fire Brad. I'm saying is he need a better game plan than sticking to analytics.

We are far from the group of over achievers of yesteryears now.

And Danny better start looking for veteran support now.
Aaaaaaaaaaand analytics despise our game plan compared to that of MIA/LAL/DEN! :laugh:
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Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2020, 10:33:53 PM »

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Yes, we are at our ceiling right now and this is because basketball is a team sport. For example, as great as the Thunder were with KD, Russ, and Serge, they were likely at their ceiling because of how the rest of the team was built. On that note...

Tatum-Brown-Kemba

Those are your 3 best players, in that order. Keep those 3 and think about retooling this team. What do those 3 need to be successful? Who are the next 5-6 guys you need in your rotation?

Theis, I think is a no brainer. Keep him. But ideally he’s a backup
Grant Williams too. If he improves (especially his shooting) he can be big for us. But I think he can make strides to be your starting 4, as a corner knockdown shooter.
And that’s about it.

- C’s need a vet playmaker
- C’s need a shooter specialist
- C’s need a mobile, coachable big who can make high IQ plays but doesn’t need plays run for him to be effective

Those for me are the high prio skillsets. We don’t have a shooter, and we’re overloaded with playmakers and inefficient scorers.
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Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2020, 10:35:09 PM »

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I've defended him to the death but I can't anymore; Hayward is the albatross around our neck and until he's off the books, we're going nowhere.

Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2020, 10:38:35 PM »

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Team needs a legit center. The NBA is going big again.
3-4 teams remaining had 3 of the best centers in the NBA - Jokic, Bam And AD

Positionless Golden State Era basketball is over with. Make some trades get a legit big who can shoot and grab some boards.

And pray Hayward opts out

You think that Smart for Capela trade would have changed this series?

I was actually salivating for Clint Capela or Nikola Vucevic last offseason. One of them might've done wonders for this team in the paint.


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Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2020, 10:39:20 PM »

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Too many distractions for a Bubble...Stupid Kids being important, you never heard Parish, Bird and Dennis Johnson talking about their freaking kids, while they were in the ECF....and we actually won something.
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Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2020, 10:41:17 PM »

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Yes, we are at our ceiling right now and this is because basketball is a team sport. For example, as great as the Thunder were with KD, Russ, and Serge, they were likely at their ceiling because of how the rest of the team was built. On that note...

Tatum-Brown-Kemba

Those are your 3 best players, in that order. Keep those 3 and think about retooling this team. What do those 3 need to be successful? Who are the next 5-6 guys you need in your rotation?

Theis, I think is a no brainer. Keep him. But ideally he’s a backup
Grant Williams too. If he improves (especially his shooting) he can be big for us. But I think he can make strides to be your starting 4, as a corner knockdown shooter.
And that’s about it.

- C’s need a vet playmaker
- C’s need a shooter specialist
- C’s need a mobile, coachable big who can make high IQ plays but doesn’t need plays run for him to be effective

Those for me are the high prio skillsets. We don’t have a shooter, and we’re overloaded with playmakers and inefficient scorers.

The lack of a true sharpshooter stands out above everything else.  Miami has two of those in Robinson and Herro.  Not to mention, Dragic consistently makes difficult shots.

Our guys are hot and cold. 

Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2020, 10:43:34 PM »

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I hate to say it but I think the team can move on from Smart too. He’s definitely deserving of 1st team all D and has been such a fan favorite but the growth of Brown and Tatum on the defensive end has given us stoppers on the perimeter.

It’s not a necessity to move him but he’s not as indispensable as he used to be.
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Re: This team reached it's ceiling
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2020, 10:45:03 PM »

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If we make any significant trade it will likely include Smart.