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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #405 on: September 28, 2020, 12:15:46 PM »

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46 three point attempts! CBS is on a short leash. He gets one more year to see if he can grow into an NBA playoffs coach rather than an All Star Game Shooting Skills coach. Chucking up 46 three pointers when A) Your shooters aren’t that great and B)  you don’t even have anyone to rebound them is idiotic. The dude needs to learn when it’s time to knuckle down and impose your will on the other team.

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #406 on: September 28, 2020, 06:19:30 PM »

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I’d say yes if there was a suitable replacement. Too bad Chicago got Donovan already.

What makes Donovan a qualified candidate above Brad?  His playoff resume consists of a blown 3-1 lead in the Conference Finals and a bunch of 1st round exits....

You’re forgetting the part where Donovan coached in an actually competitive conference and watched his team get dismantled every year one piece at a time after he joined.

Giving up the 3-1 lead to GSW was ugly at the time, but knowing what we know now about that GSW team and KD, it’s not that surprising anymore

My last post wasn't meant to disparage Donovan.  I'm just not sure what he has done to differentiate himself from Brad.

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #407 on: September 28, 2020, 06:21:47 PM »

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After sleeping on it and letting my post-game rage die down, I was probably a bit premature in my calls for Brad's head. I think there is blame that falls on his shoulders (PLAY GRANT!), but Ainge didn't help him out too much and neither did injuries. We need to make Finals next year. I don't care that the Nets are around, or that the Bucks will be hungry, or that the Heat have cap space. It's ours for the taking.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #408 on: September 28, 2020, 06:29:00 PM »

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After sleeping on it and letting my post-game rage die down, I was probably a bit premature in my calls for Brad's head. I think there is blame that falls on his shoulders (PLAY GRANT!), but Ainge didn't help him out too much and neither did injuries. We need to make Finals next year. I don't care that the Nets are around, or that the Bucks will be hungry, or that the Heat have cap space. It's ours for the taking.

It was an odd off-season for Ainge following last years Kyrie debacle.  It sucked that he needed to move Baynes in order to sign Kemba. 

All in all I think we saw the necessary leap from Tatum and Brown.  Smart has also shown continued improvement on offense.  I honestly feel like most of the pieces are in place.  Ainge should have a much clearer picture of how to fill out the roster for next season.  It's absolutely the right time to seek out veteran leadership to fill out the bench.

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« Reply #409 on: September 28, 2020, 06:33:48 PM »

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After sleeping on it and letting my post-game rage die down, I was probably a bit premature in my calls for Brad's head. I think there is blame that falls on his shoulders (PLAY GRANT!), but Ainge didn't help him out too much and neither did injuries. We need to make Finals next year. I don't care that the Nets are around, or that the Bucks will be hungry, or that the Heat have cap space. It's ours for the taking.

It was an odd off-season for Ainge following last years Kyrie debacle.  It sucked that he needed to move Baynes in order to sign Kemba. 

All in all I think we saw the necessary leap from Tatum and Brown.  Smart has also shown continued improvement on offense.  I honestly feel like most of the pieces are in place.  Ainge should have a much clearer picture of how to fill out the roster for next season.  It's absolutely the right time to seek out veteran leadership to fill out the bench.
Yeah, losing Baynes hurt. As an Australian it had an extra layer of pain ;D

I agree that Ainge should have an idea of what we're capable of now. We're a genuine championship contender, and should be for years. Fill holes on the bench with veterans and draft guys who can immediately contribute rather than high-ceiling low-floor guys (Langford for example).
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #410 on: September 28, 2020, 06:58:45 PM »

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Missed Baynesy a lot this year.

He would have been really useful to have in that Miami series against Bam.  Might not have been enough to get past them, but I would've felt a lot more confident with him splitting center minutes with Theis.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #411 on: September 28, 2020, 08:35:58 PM »

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Stevens went on and on about how the Celtics could not match up with Bam Bam and he just drove it down our throats the 4th quarter and on and on - what a monster Bam is, how we couldn't match his physicality. it made me sick to listen to.

It is Stevens who pulled the player (Grant Williams) who was containing Bam and replaced him, for some unknown reason, with Theis, who had struggled the entire series to defend the guy. So when Bam starts driving and going off, you know what a coach is supposed to do, Brad ????? You call a timeout, make some alignment adjustments and get Theis the hell off the court.  Miami only had two 3-point shooters in the game to stay with, while the other two Celtics could have pinched down with either Grant or Rob Williams defending the Bam Man. Stevens should have been chewing on them to be just as physical right back and not just stand on the sideline bewildered by what to do with King Kong Bam.

He ain't the guy to get us there, sorry. I was hoping he would be. Almost seems that his effectiveness as coach has taken a step back the past two seasons.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #412 on: September 28, 2020, 08:43:42 PM »

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After sleeping on it and letting my post-game rage die down, I was probably a bit premature in my calls for Brad's head. I think there is blame that falls on his shoulders (PLAY GRANT!), but Ainge didn't help him out too much and neither did injuries. We need to make Finals next year. I don't care that the Nets are around, or that the Bucks will be hungry, or that the Heat have cap space. It's ours for the taking.

Did Stevens offer any explanation for his decision to pull Grant and replace him with Theis, who had struggled with Bam the entire series ?
Did he say why he didn't make a change when Bam took over the game late ?
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« Reply #413 on: September 28, 2020, 09:05:42 PM »

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After sleeping on it and letting my post-game rage die down, I was probably a bit premature in my calls for Brad's head. I think there is blame that falls on his shoulders (PLAY GRANT!), but Ainge didn't help him out too much and neither did injuries. We need to make Finals next year. I don't care that the Nets are around, or that the Bucks will be hungry, or that the Heat have cap space. It's ours for the taking.

Did Stevens offer any explanation for his decision to pull Grant and replace him with Theis, who had struggled with Bam the entire series ?
Did he say why he didn't make a change when Bam took over the game late ?
I haven't seen anything, but I haven't been paying too much attention. Still not over it. Hopefully Grant gets a much bigger role next year
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #414 on: September 28, 2020, 09:40:00 PM »

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After sleeping on it and letting my post-game rage die down, I was probably a bit premature in my calls for Brad's head. I think there is blame that falls on his shoulders (PLAY GRANT!), but Ainge didn't help him out too much and neither did injuries. We need to make Finals next year. I don't care that the Nets are around, or that the Bucks will be hungry, or that the Heat have cap space. It's ours for the taking.

Did Stevens offer any explanation for his decision to pull Grant and replace him with Theis, who had struggled with Bam the entire series ?
Did he say why he didn't make a change when Bam took over the game late ?
I haven't seen anything, but I haven't been paying too much attention. Still not over it. Hopefully Grant gets a much bigger role next year

I understand that feeling.

Hopefully, Stevens learns to make common-sense decisions as a coach next year. I do see him as a weakness at this time, as weak as other on-court issues like the need for an upgrade in the post and a knock-down shooter off the bench.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #415 on: September 28, 2020, 09:56:13 PM »

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I woke up a new day this morning and...

my feelings for him still has not changed, and it never will since about two years ago. I want him goneeee. He's a collegiate level coach. We need a coach who will take the J's to the next level, and bring this team to the promised land.

And change up the offensive philosophy because those "live by the 3's and die by the 3's" aren't cutting it.


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« Reply #416 on: September 28, 2020, 10:25:29 PM »

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He lost to a Center that does not shoot threes...If that does not give him a clue then what will? Bam is an old school rugged center who does  not shoot threes.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #417 on: September 28, 2020, 11:09:46 PM »

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46 three point attempts and we don’t have anyone on our team named Steph or Klay.

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #418 on: September 28, 2020, 11:11:49 PM »

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i heard that today and couldn't believe it.   it's like they all decided to either hit threes or just get out of the bubble. 

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« Reply #419 on: September 28, 2020, 11:18:31 PM »

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After sleeping on it and letting my post-game rage die down, I was probably a bit premature in my calls for Brad's head. I think there is blame that falls on his shoulders (PLAY GRANT!), but Ainge didn't help him out too much and neither did injuries. We need to make Finals next year. I don't care that the Nets are around, or that the Bucks will be hungry, or that the Heat have cap space. It's ours for the taking.

Did Stevens offer any explanation for his decision to pull Grant and replace him with Theis, who had struggled with Bam the entire series ?
Did he say why he didn't make a change when Bam took over the game late ?

nope. And nobody asked the question

But then again I guess you could also ask him why the team went ice cold in the last 5 mins.   Celts were only down 2 or 4. 

Instead the chucking show took over.   One after another after another misses.  And it was a 10 point lead in a blink of an eye.

Thats how careless the team became with the ball. 

All that effort to dismantle the zone ....gone. Because Brad has to play a small lineup with no force on the interior.  No 2nd chances via offensive rebounds. Because everyone is spread out. So its either 3 or nothing

Just terrible

Brad lineup choices... mainly in the 4th were brutal. Basically guys who don't deserve it in that particular game, get mins/finish game....due to familiarity or favoritism . Who knows