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Re: Celtics Orlando Updates
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2020, 03:48:27 AM »

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Lol @ Rondo complaining about the hotel accommodations.

I realize this is tough on the players, but going in with a positive attitude shouldn't be too much to ask for. These guys make a LOT more money than almost anybody else on earth. Staying in luxurious resorts for a couple of months shouldn't be a catastrophic experience.


No, It's not tough on the players. Give me a break. They are spoiled rotten millionaires staying at a luxury hotel and confined to a world-class resort with both team and league staff on-call for any need they might have.

Jayson Tatum - if he wants to be a great Celtic - needs to knock off the whining and focus on getting himself back in shape and being a positive force in the locker room. I suppose it took Kevin Garnett's influence for Paul Pierce to finally grow up, Jayson needs to have a vet sit-down and educate him on how good he has it and what a special opportunity he has to have an extraordinary career playing for the NBA's premier franchise.
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Re: Celtics Orlando Updates
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2020, 07:03:41 AM »

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Lol @ Rondo complaining about the hotel accommodations.

I realize this is tough on the players, but going in with a positive attitude shouldn't be too much to ask for. These guys make a LOT more money than almost anybody else on earth. Staying in luxurious resorts for a couple of months shouldn't be a catastrophic experience.


No, It's not tough on the players. Give me a break. They are spoiled rotten millionaires staying at a luxury hotel and confined to a world-class resort with both team and league staff on-call for any need they might have.

Jayson Tatum - if he wants to be a great Celtic - needs to knock off the whining and focus on getting himself back in shape and being a positive force in the locker room. I suppose it took Kevin Garnett's influence for Paul Pierce to finally grow up, Jayson needs to have a vet sit-down and educate him on how good he has it and what a special opportunity he has to have an extraordinary career playing for the NBA's premier franchise.

Love KG, but he's never had to navigate a PANDEMIC....

Especially one poorly managed by our leadership.
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Re: Celtics Orlando Updates
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2020, 07:12:42 AM »

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Lol @ Rondo complaining about the hotel accommodations.

I realize this is tough on the players, but going in with a positive attitude shouldn't be too much to ask for. These guys make a LOT more money than almost anybody else on earth. Staying in luxurious resorts for a couple of months shouldn't be a catastrophic experience.


No, It's not tough on the players. Give me a break. They are spoiled rotten millionaires staying at a luxury hotel and confined to a world-class resort with both team and league staff on-call for any need they might have.

Jayson Tatum - if he wants to be a great Celtic - needs to knock off the whining and focus on getting himself back in shape and being a positive force in the locker room. I suppose it took Kevin Garnett's influence for Paul Pierce to finally grow up, Jayson needs to have a vet sit-down and educate him on how good he has it and what a special opportunity he has to have an extraordinary career playing for the NBA's premier franchise.

Telling people how good they have it when they feel like crap does about as much good as telling a person with high anxiety not to worry about it.

I’m not disagreeing that these men generally have a good thing going and 3 months of being in a bubble isn’t the worst price to pay for making millions of dollars.  Most of us would take the deal without blinking.  But humans are ... human.

I get you are saying essentially that Tatum should grow up and appreciate what he’s got.  I hope so too.  But everyone’s journey is both different and imperfect.  Not saying a talking to by KG won’t help, but Tatum is not the same person as KG (who is also imperfect) and while he could be helped to see things differently and perhaps motivated/encouraged to focus on the obsession of winning, what ticks inside of JT operates in large part on its own developmental timetable.  I’m not say he wouldn’t benefit from a talking to - I am saying the logic to the solution is more complex than your post indicates.


Re: Celtics Orlando Updates
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2020, 12:55:00 PM »

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Lol @ Rondo complaining about the hotel accommodations.

I realize this is tough on the players, but going in with a positive attitude shouldn't be too much to ask for. These guys make a LOT more money than almost anybody else on earth. Staying in luxurious resorts for a couple of months shouldn't be a catastrophic experience.


No, It's not tough on the players. Give me a break. They are spoiled rotten millionaires staying at a luxury hotel and confined to a world-class resort with both team and league staff on-call for any need they might have.

Jayson Tatum - if he wants to be a great Celtic - needs to knock off the whining and focus on getting himself back in shape and being a positive force in the locker room. I suppose it took Kevin Garnett's influence for Paul Pierce to finally grow up, Jayson needs to have a vet sit-down and educate him on how good he has it and what a special opportunity he has to have an extraordinary career playing for the NBA's premier franchise.

Telling people how good they have it when they feel like crap does about as much good as telling a person with high anxiety not to worry about it.

I’m not disagreeing that these men generally have a good thing going and 3 months of being in a bubble isn’t the worst price to pay for making millions of dollars.  Most of us would take the deal without blinking.  But humans are ... human.

I get you are saying essentially that Tatum should grow up and appreciate what he’s got.  I hope so too.  But everyone’s journey is both different and imperfect.  Not saying a talking to by KG won’t help, but Tatum is not the same person as KG (who is also imperfect) and while he could be helped to see things differently and perhaps motivated/encouraged to focus on the obsession of winning, what ticks inside of JT operates in large part on its own developmental timetable.  I’m not say he wouldn’t benefit from a talking to - I am saying the logic to the solution is more complex than your post indicates.

What did Tatum do?

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Re: Celtics Orlando Updates
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2020, 07:56:13 PM »

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If Kemba's knee is still not feeling better after having 4 months off, then perhaps it's time to move on from him.


I hate to agree, but you are right. The knee is said to be bone on bone. Why else have silicon injections? Anyone who has suffered bone on bone in a knee joint can tell you that it is debilitating. See Dustin Pedroia. Most of those knees end up being surgically replaced. I am sorry for Kemba, and it looks like the Celtics made a bad signing.

I was told that some day there may be a way to replace worn cartilage, unfortunately not anytime soon.

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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2020, 07:59:48 PM »

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If Kemba's knee is still not feeling better after having 4 months off, then perhaps it's time to move on from him.


I hate to agree, but you are right. The knee is said to be bone on bone. Why else have silicon injections? Anyone who has suffered bone on bone in a knee joint can tell you that it is debilitating. See Dustin Pedroia. Most of those knees end up being surgically replaced. I am sorry for Kemba, and it looks like the Celtics made a bad signing.

I was told that some day there may be a way to replace worn cartilage, unfortunately not anytime soon.

If this is true, it's horrible news—for him, the team, and us fans.

And I agree: If he's still needing to take it slow—after almost four months off, and with an injury that we were told wasn't "significant," that's a HUGE red flag. Like, KG-size red flag.
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Re: Celtics Orlando Updates
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2020, 08:02:04 PM »

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Love KG, but he's never had to navigate a PANDEMIC....

Especially one poorly managed by our leadership.
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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2020, 08:04:04 PM »

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If Kemba's knee is still not feeling better after having 4 months off, then perhaps it's time to move on from him.


I hate to agree, but you are right. The knee is said to be bone on bone. Why else have silicon injections? Anyone who has suffered bone on bone in a knee joint can tell you that it is debilitating. See Dustin Pedroia. Most of those knees end up being surgically replaced. I am sorry for Kemba, and it looks like the Celtics made a bad signing.

I was told that some day there may be a way to replace worn cartilage, unfortunately not anytime soon.

If this is true, it's horrible news—for him, the team, and us fans.

And I agree: If he's still needing to take it slow—after almost four months off, and with an injury that we were told wasn't "significant," that's a HUGE red flag. Like, KG-size red flag.

Weren't we told several times after his MRIs that he had no structural damage?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28510592/celtics-kemba-walker-gets-mri-no-structural-damage-knee

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« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2020, 08:09:22 PM »

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Weren't we told several times after his MRIs that he had no structural damage?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28510592/celtics-kemba-walker-gets-mri-no-structural-damage-knee
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Do you believe that?

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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2020, 08:11:25 PM »

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Weren't we told several times after his MRIs that he had no structural damage?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28510592/celtics-kemba-walker-gets-mri-no-structural-damage-knee

Do you believe that?
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It could be that cartilage damage is not within their definition of structural damage. They may have meant no bone, ligament, or tendon damage.

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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2020, 08:15:49 PM »

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It could be that cartilage damage is not within their definition of structural damage. They may have meant no bone, ligament, or tendon damage.
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Probably. The MRI would show cartilage damage, for sure.

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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2020, 08:32:33 PM »

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We're not going anywhere without a healthy Kemba.

I hope he's healthy....if not we're in a bad place.
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« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2020, 09:14:08 PM »

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Did Charlotte dump damaged goods on the Celtics?

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« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2020, 09:25:27 PM »

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Did Charlotte dump damaged goods on the Celtics?
Doubt it. He played 82 games last season, and wasn’t showing any obvious sign of injury until he got here.

Maybe MJ outsmarted Danny though? Who knows.

Let’s hope Kemba is as healthy as possible

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« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2020, 09:27:00 PM »

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Did Charlotte dump damaged goods on the Celtics?

Don't know but given this team's unfortunate injury history over the last 12 years or so this is a cause for concern.

I will need to see the EARLY SEASON Kemba before I think we can make a serious run this year.
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