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Does the loss to 76ers show our wings are not good enough?
« on: January 10, 2020, 04:39:48 AM »

Offline Stig

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Brown, Tatum, Hayward are pretty good at beating teams without good wing depth, but yesterday they were completely outplayed by 76ers wings. Why Brown always played so poorly vs 76ers this year, in the last 3 losses he scored 8, 8, 6. With this current roster, we'd be lucky to win one game in the playoff vs 76ers or the bucks.

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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2020, 05:05:30 AM »

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Finally someone. I say, they are border-All star players, just not good enough for a banner. Someone needs to lead this group, Kawhi, Giannis, KAT, KD, someone like that.

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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2020, 06:26:48 AM »

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Good enough for what?
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2020, 08:09:16 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2020, 08:29:58 AM »

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Finally someone. I say, they are border-All star players, just not good enough for a banner. Someone needs to lead this group, Kawhi, Giannis, KAT, KD, someone like that.

I agree our best players aren't really stars and aren't consistent threats.  What has KAT ever done to show he can lead/elevate a team?   

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2020, 08:38:26 AM »

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Our wings ARE NOT the problem.  Poor shooting was the problem on offense, and not enough size on defense.  Theis, GW, MS are not big enough to guard big al.  THeir young guy blocked everything.  All without Joel Embid.  With him it would have been worse.  We need another defensive minded big.  Even RM3 would have been a big help yesterday.  76'ers are a decent defensive team with great size while not sacrificing speed.  They are the best against 3 pt shooting teams, but the C's had plenty of chances.  Hit your shots.  The C's still seem to get tight against the better teams and miss their shots.  Just their youth I think.

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2020, 08:53:10 AM »

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The C's championship problem is the same one the team has had since KG's knee injury i.e. it doesn't have a real legit franchise player that is at least a top 10 if not top 5 player in the world.  Historically you need one of those players to be a realistic consistent legitimate contender.  Every once in a while there is a fluke team that wins or makes it to the Finals without one of those players, but those teams are rare and definitely an exception to the rule. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2020, 08:59:36 AM »

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Does the loss to 76ers show our wings are not good enough?

Yes, it means that they are not good enough, but just for the yesterdays game.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2020, 09:07:32 AM »

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No.  It just shows that they can be inconsistent (well, they are young) and prone to periods of stagnant offense which can certainly kill you in a basketball game.   Otherwise, its just over-reaction Friday.


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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2020, 09:19:37 AM »

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Not just the wings but the entire team struggles against long, athletic teams that commit to defense.  Kemba bails them out against a lot of teams but even he has trouble against teams with size that focus on him because they take away his ability to get to the basket.

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2020, 09:33:48 AM »

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poor shooting seems to be spreading like a virus though the team . Missing way too many easy shots ...layups .

Getting good looks ,    bad shooting is breeding confidence for the opponents and frustration for the Celtics .

They got to throw the shooting monkey off their backs

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2020, 09:42:37 AM »

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They need a veteran guy who can get them points consistently coming off the bench.  There's something on Twitter today that they're scouting Danilo Galinari.  That's the kind of guy they need to add. You have a good idea of what he'll give you night to night. 

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2020, 10:12:11 AM »

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NBA teams have figured out the Celtics.

Right now the Celts are very predictable on offense.

Even the wins over the Hawks and Bulls were not impressive.

Celts do not have the option of playing inside-outside basketball.
They just don't have that low post threat.
So everything is from the outside or perimeter.
Opposing teams already know what the Celts will do.

The Celtic bigs are also being exploited.

When Theis is in the game, the opposing team will attack Theis inside the paint because he's usually smaller than the opposing team's Center.

And when Kanter is playing, opposing teams put him in the pick and roll because they know Kanter can't cover smaller players.

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2020, 10:22:12 AM »

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NBA teams have figured out the Celtics.

Right now the Celts are very predictable on offense.

Even the wins over the Hawks and Bulls were not impressive.

Celts do not have the option of playing inside-outside basketball.
They just don't have that low post threat.
So everything is from the outside or perimeter.
Opposing teams already know what the Celts will do.

The Celtic bigs are also being exploited.

When Theis is in the game, the opposing team will attack Theis inside the paint because he's usually smaller than the opposing team's Center.

And when Kanter is playing, opposing teams put him in the pick and roll because they know Kanter can't cover smaller players.
I think I'd also argue that Tatum's inability to get to the rim and score consistently is starting to become a problem. In general they were getting to the basket a lot more easily earlier in the season. Now whether teams have adjusted or maybe it's just the long teams like Philly that mess them up - that I'm not entirely sure of.

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2020, 10:26:37 AM »

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NBA teams have figured out the Celtics.

Right now the Celts are very predictable on offense.

Even the wins over the Hawks and Bulls were not impressive.

Celts do not have the option of playing inside-outside basketball.
They just don't have that low post threat.
So everything is from the outside or perimeter.
Opposing teams already know what the Celts will do.

The Celtic bigs are also being exploited.

When Theis is in the game, the opposing team will attack Theis inside the paint because he's usually smaller than the opposing team's Center.

And when Kanter is playing, opposing teams put him in the pick and roll because they know Kanter can't cover smaller players.
I think I'd also argue that Tatum's inability to get to the rim and score consistently is starting to become a problem. In general they were getting to the basket a lot more easily earlier in the season. Now whether teams have adjusted or maybe it's just the long teams like Philly that mess them up - that I'm not entirely sure of.

Celts are in trouble if their success is dependent on a 21-year old Tatum.

Reason why Tatum can't score consistently when getting to the rim is because he still has the body of a college kid.

He's like a 21-year old Kobe Bryant.

Right now opposing teams are focused on stopping the Celtic wing players.
They even let Theis shoot 3s.
It will be a different story if the Celts have a low post threat.
Having a low post threat will give the Celtic wing players more open shots.