Celtics (22-8) at Hornets (13-22) Game #31 12/31/19

[Sophomore]

Philly blown out, 13 losses now.

Great day. Happy New Year everyone.

Embiid did not play and Horford is 2-12 ouch

First year of a 4-year, $109 million deal...

[PhoSita]

I really don’t appreciate you trying to bring race into this, that’s a total strawman.

Huh?

That was for nickagenta. This conversation is too boring to address you both individually.

lol

[SHAQATTACK]

Philly blown out, 13 losses now.

Great day. Happy New Year everyone.

Embiid did not play and Horford is 2-12 ouch

First year of a 4-year, $109 million deal...

that will look sweet 2023 ...LOL .....embiid will sign with Heat or Clippers ..... expect Al will be sent a a third string backup to Mavs , Heat , or such along with his huge contract

[SHAQATTACK]

- Kanter is great to have off the bench for offense and rebounding.  getting better integrated with the team with each game.

I have to admit he's an asset, even though it still mystifies me when I watch him closely on defense.

Kanter is one of the worst I've ever watched in terms of somehow managing to not deter the offensive player at all even when he's in the vicinity of the shot attempt.

A lot of big guys with poor mobility (e.g. Kelly Olynyk) are able to play defense by having quick hands, good instincts, and simply by placing themselves between the man and the basket.

Kanter is often in the area of where a shot attempt occurs, but he rarely seems to affect the shot at all.  Often that's because he fails to even get his hands up, but sometimes he does and still it seems like the offensive player is completely undeterred.


At times I wonder if Kanter's presence somehow makes offensive players shoot better.  Like he exudes an aura of shot-making or something, haha.

I think you guys are on to some thing about Kanter having a positive effect .    I see it as ...he is known great offensive rebounder,  so if Im a shooter , im more comfortable letting go a jumper knowing , if i miss we got a decent shoot at a put back or rebound .  Least ...that is how it might effect me as a shooter...

[Chief]

- Kanter is great to have off the bench for offense and rebounding.  getting better integrated with the team with each game.

I have to admit he's an asset, even though it still mystifies me when I watch him closely on defense.

Kanter is one of the worst I've ever watched in terms of somehow managing to not deter the offensive player at all even when he's in the vicinity of the shot attempt.

A lot of big guys with poor mobility (e.g. Kelly Olynyk) are able to play defense by having quick hands, good instincts, and simply by placing themselves between the man and the basket.

Kanter is often in the area of where a shot attempt occurs, but he rarely seems to affect the shot at all.  Often that's because he fails to even get his hands up, but sometimes he does and still it seems like the offensive player is completely undeterred.


At times I wonder if Kanter's presence somehow makes offensive players shoot better.  Like he exudes an aura of shot-making or something, haha.

I think you guys are on to some thing about Kanter having a positive effect .    I see it as ...he is known great offensive rebounder,  so if Im a shooter , im more comfortable letting go a jumper knowing , if i miss we got a decent shoot at a put back or rebound .  Least ...that is how it might effect me as a shooter...

Tp

[CaNdyMaN1369]

Missed the game...          Seems like the Celtics played good. On to the next...           GO CELTICS!!!           

[RockinRyA]

Our best reffed game all year comes from a woman ref. Nicely done.

Yikes...this is terrible.

What does her being female have to do with being a good or bad ref? I can list a plethora of absolutely awful referees, all male. Being guys has nothing to do with their ability to be a good or bad ref.

Nice job extrapolating there pal 

Your original statement ("Nicely done") makes no sense unless the reader infers your surprise that the "best reffed game" of the season was accomplished by a female ref.

You understand this and it is insulting that you're playing coy about it.

Just own up to it -- it doesn't make you a terrible person -- and let's move on.

I’m paying a compliment to a woman referee who did a good job reffing the game. I really don’t appreciate you trying to bring race into this, that’s a total strawman. The only aspect I can agree on is that it should not be noteworthy whether it was a man or woman referee.

Compare and contrast what I said with something like “wow can’t believe a woman ref called a good game finally!” There’s a huge difference. I can’t help you guys with your overly sensitive interpretation.

Also please stop referring to a woman as “female”, this isn’t science class. She’s a human, not a cat. You guys should really know better. I’m starting to think you’re both a bit insecure in your own viewpoints of women.

It is sexist. You can compliment the ref by saying "the female ref officiated well" or "our best officiated game was with THE female ref". You dont phrase it like it is a surprise that we had our best officiated game with a female ref. That's sexist.

[tenn_smoothie]

Our best reffed game all year comes from a woman ref. Nicely done.

Yikes...this is terrible.

What does her being female have to do with being a good or bad ref? I can list a plethora of absolutely awful referees, all male. Being guys has nothing to do with their ability to be a good or bad ref.

Nice job extrapolating there pal 

I am not extrapolating anything. When you say the best reffed game comes from a woman you are inferring that women refs are somehow inferior to men refs. The statement reads like you are surprised a woman could ref the best officiated game of the year. No extrapolating necessary.

The statement is very sexist. I will assume you didn't mean it that way. I will assume you saw her ref before and she sucked and that you noticed she was much better today but just wrote that observation very poorly.

There is just no reason whatsoever to bring the referees sex into the equation. When you do you are making a statement about her sex affecting her ability to be a referee.

What you said is the equivalent of saying "Our best played game came from a white guy. Nicely done!" That is a racist statement. Again, what would that player being white have to do with anything?

Can you now see how what you wrote can be interpreted differently than how you may have meant it? Especially by a woman, who we do have a bunch of that post on this site?

On the whole, men are better refs than women. I find it idiotic , and typical of that serpent-head Silver, that he has demanded quotas for female officials and coaches.

[CelticsPoetry]

Our best reffed game all year comes from a woman ref. Nicely done.

Yikes...this is terrible.

What does her being female have to do with being a good or bad ref? I can list a plethora of absolutely awful referees, all male. Being guys has nothing to do with their ability to be a good or bad ref.

Nice job extrapolating there pal 

Your original statement ("Nicely done") makes no sense unless the reader infers your surprise that the "best reffed game" of the season was accomplished by a female ref.

You understand this and it is insulting that you're playing coy about it.

Just own up to it -- it doesn't make you a terrible person -- and let's move on.

I’m paying a compliment to a woman referee who did a good job reffing the game. I really don’t appreciate you trying to bring race into this, that’s a total strawman. The only aspect I can agree on is that it should not be noteworthy whether it was a man or woman referee.

Compare and contrast what I said with something like “wow can’t believe a woman ref called a good game finally!” There’s a huge difference. I can’t help you guys with your overly sensitive interpretation.

Also please stop referring to a woman as “female”, this isn’t science class. She’s a human, not a cat. You guys should really know better. I’m starting to think you’re both a bit insecure in your own viewpoints of women.

It is sexist. You can compliment the ref by saying "the female ref officiated well" or "our best officiated game was with THE female ref". You dont phrase it like it is a surprise that we had our best officiated game with a female ref. That's sexist.

And what if it is? It's still a legitimate opinion that can be backed by facts.

[CelticsPoetry]

Our best reffed game all year comes from a woman ref. Nicely done.

Yikes...this is terrible.

What does her being female have to do with being a good or bad ref? I can list a plethora of absolutely awful referees, all male. Being guys has nothing to do with their ability to be a good or bad ref.

Nice job extrapolating there pal 

I am not extrapolating anything. When you say the best reffed game comes from a woman you are inferring that women refs are somehow inferior to men refs. The statement reads like you are surprised a woman could ref the best officiated game of the year. No extrapolating necessary.

The statement is very sexist. I will assume you didn't mean it that way. I will assume you saw her ref before and she sucked and that you noticed she was much better today but just wrote that observation very poorly.

There is just no reason whatsoever to bring the referees sex into the equation. When you do you are making a statement about her sex affecting her ability to be a referee.

What you said is the equivalent of saying "Our best played game came from a white guy. Nicely done!" That is a racist statement. Again, what would that player being white have to do with anything?

Can you now see how what you wrote can be interpreted differently than how you may have meant it? Especially by a woman, who we do have a bunch of that post on this site?

Isn't it sad that we've come so far that even mentioning race/gender makes the statement racist/sexist. How is the statement about the white guy racist? It's literally just an observation and conveying facts

[nickagneta]

On the whole, men are better refs than women. I find it idiotic , and typical of that serpent-head Silver, that he has demanded quotas for female officials and coaches.

Sexist statement

That's sexist.

And what if it is? It's still a legitimate opinion that can be backed by facts.

No it can't. This is a sexist statement.

What you said is the equivalent of saying "Our best played game came from a white guy. Nicely done!" That is a racist statement. Again, what would that player being white have to do with anything?

How is the statement about the white guy racist? It's literally just an observation and conveying facts

Because the statement expresses surprise that the best guy to play was white which assumes being white makes you less good at basketball than another type of person. That is racist.

[Chief]

Philly blown out, 13 losses now.

Great day. Happy New Year everyone.

Embiid did not play and Horford is 2-12 ouch

First year of a 4-year, $109 million deal...

Danny avoided a few of those contracts. It may not always be popular but probably the right thing to do financially.

[greenrunsdeep41]

On the whole, men are better refs than women. I find it idiotic , and typical of that serpent-head Silver, that he has demanded quotas for female officials and coaches.

Sexist statement

That's sexist.

And what if it is? It's still a legitimate opinion that can be backed by facts.

No it can't. This is a sexist statement.

What you said is the equivalent of saying "Our best played game came from a white guy. Nicely done!" That is a racist statement. Again, what would that player being white have to do with anything?

How is the statement about the white guy racist? It's literally just an observation and conveying facts

Because the statement expresses surprise that the best guy to play was white which assumes being white makes you less good at basketball than another type of person. That is racist.

Wowzers

[greenrunsdeep41]

Our best reffed game all year comes from a woman ref. Nicely done.

Yikes...this is terrible.

What does her being female have to do with being a good or bad ref? I can list a plethora of absolutely awful referees, all male. Being guys has nothing to do with their ability to be a good or bad ref.

Nice job extrapolating there pal 

I am not extrapolating anything. When you say the best reffed game comes from a woman you are inferring that women refs are somehow inferior to men refs. The statement reads like you are surprised a woman could ref the best officiated game of the year. No extrapolating necessary.

The statement is very sexist. I will assume you didn't mean it that way. I will assume you saw her ref before and she sucked and that you noticed she was much better today but just wrote that observation very poorly.

There is just no reason whatsoever to bring the referees sex into the equation. When you do you are making a statement about her sex affecting her ability to be a referee.

What you said is the equivalent of saying "Our best played game came from a white guy. Nicely done!" That is a racist statement. Again, what would that player being white have to do with anything?

Can you now see how what you wrote can be interpreted differently than how you may have meant it? Especially by a woman, who we do have a bunch of that post on this site?

Isn't it sad that we've come so far that even mentioning race/gender makes the statement racist/sexist. How is the statement about the white guy racist? It's literally just an observation and conveying facts

Read about interpellation, new materialism, and how ideology is formed to understand why “we’ve come so freakin far from your guud ole world.”

It’s okay to not understand why you’re wrong here, it’s forgivable, to a point. But know that you are wrong.

[CelticsPoetry]

Our best reffed game all year comes from a woman ref. Nicely done.

Yikes...this is terrible.

What does her being female have to do with being a good or bad ref? I can list a plethora of absolutely awful referees, all male. Being guys has nothing to do with their ability to be a good or bad ref.

Nice job extrapolating there pal 

I am not extrapolating anything. When you say the best reffed game comes from a woman you are inferring that women refs are somehow inferior to men refs. The statement reads like you are surprised a woman could ref the best officiated game of the year. No extrapolating necessary.

The statement is very sexist. I will assume you didn't mean it that way. I will assume you saw her ref before and she sucked and that you noticed she was much better today but just wrote that observation very poorly.

There is just no reason whatsoever to bring the referees sex into the equation. When you do you are making a statement about her sex affecting her ability to be a referee.

What you said is the equivalent of saying "Our best played game came from a white guy. Nicely done!" That is a racist statement. Again, what would that player being white have to do with anything?

Can you now see how what you wrote can be interpreted differently than how you may have meant it? Especially by a woman, who we do have a bunch of that post on this site?

Isn't it sad that we've come so far that even mentioning race/gender makes the statement racist/sexist. How is the statement about the white guy racist? It's literally just an observation and conveying facts

Read about interpellation, new materialism, and how ideology is formed to understand why “we’ve come so freakin far from your guud ole world.”

It’s okay to not understand why you’re wrong here, it’s forgivable, to a point. But know that you are wrong.

I know about this stuff. Our opinions simply differ, period.