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Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2019, 09:00:41 AM »

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Nobody is trading for Hayward unless they are dumping an albatross player and contract. It is beyond embarrassing as well to be making complaints of Hayward who injured his foot while playing for us. This new injury is not new and is a result of that brutal leg injury and now we hear that he has been in discomfort all season long but it was manageable up until now.

He will need minute restrictions going forward but from what I am hearing from statements from Stevens is that this is not going away anytime soon. The foot pain is tied to that injury and no matter how we slice it, it will impact us this year.

If anyone thinks we are going to dump an injured player like before again with Stevens as our coach is dreaming. If it were to happen, we would soon be searching for a new coach as well.

I for one hope Hayward does not push his body to point of permanent damage that he will never comeback from. To ask that he does is pathetic.

Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2019, 09:05:41 AM »

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Let him have foot soreness in December. Get him healthy for March onward.

Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2019, 09:13:30 AM »

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Just pray he doesnt need surgery, just rest
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Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2019, 09:23:57 AM »

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Nobody is trading for Hayward unless they are dumping an albatross player and contract. It is beyond embarrassing as well to be making complaints of Hayward who injured his foot while playing for us. This new injury is not new and is a result of that brutal leg injury and now we hear that he has been in discomfort all season long but it was manageable up until now.

He will need minute restrictions going forward but from what I am hearing from statements from Stevens is that this is not going away anytime soon. The foot pain is tied to that injury and no matter how we slice it, it will impact us this year.

If anyone thinks we are going to dump an injured player like before again with Stevens as our coach is dreaming. If it were to happen, we would soon be searching for a new coach as well.

I for one hope Hayward does not push his body to point of permanent damage that he will never comeback from. To ask that he does is pathetic.
Trading Hayward while injured does sound bad but in the end of the day Celtics is an organization with championship goals not charity. Right now we are down to 6 plus 1 playable players in the playoffs with one of those 6 Smart who gets injured every other week because of his reckless style sometimes. we need depth or the playoffs will be a quick affair for us.
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Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2019, 12:47:51 PM »

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Danny said this morning this is more of a toe related issue, which to me is good news; it seems unrelated to his break a couple of years ago.

Seriously, they should check his diet; the symptom described sounds like classic gout, I should know, I've experienced a couple of times before.

Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2019, 01:39:29 PM »

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Danny said this morning this is more of a toe related issue, which to me is good news; it seems unrelated to his break a couple of years ago.

Seriously, they should check his diet; the symptom described sounds like classic gout, I should know, I've experienced a couple of times before.
We should listen to the poster who goes by footey on this subject! ;)

Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2019, 01:58:26 PM »

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A "Toe" issue??



C'MON Gordo let's go! File those nails down and get your keester back on the court ;D

Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2019, 02:05:04 PM »

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Danny said this morning this is more of a toe related issue, which to me is good news; it seems unrelated to his break a couple of years ago.

Seriously, they should check his diet; the symptom described sounds like classic gout, I should know, I've experienced a couple of times before.
We should listen to the poster who goes by footey on this subject! ;)

Ha ha right!!

Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2019, 05:39:26 PM »

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Danny said this morning this is more of a toe related issue, which to me is good news; it seems unrelated to his break a couple of years ago.

Seriously, they should check his diet; the symptom described sounds like classic gout, I should know, I've experienced a couple of times before.
We should listen to the poster who goes by footey on this subject! ;)

TP for pointing that out  :laugh:
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Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2019, 05:56:06 PM »

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Danny said this morning this is more of a toe related issue, which to me is good news; it seems unrelated to his break a couple of years ago.

I believe he said it was a toe issue "near where the toe connects to the foot," which sounds like a sesamoid issue.


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Types of Sesamoid Injuries in the Foot
There are three types of sesamoid injuries in the foot:

Turf toe. This is an injury of the soft tissue surrounding the big toe joint. It usually occurs when the big toe joint is extended beyond its normal range. Turf toe causes immediate, sharp pain and swelling. It usually affects the entire big toe joint and limits the motion of the toe. Turf toe may result in an injury to the soft tissue attached to the sesamoid or a fracture of the sesamoid. Sometimes a “pop” is felt at the moment of injury.

Fracture. A fracture (break) in a sesamoid bone can be either acute or chronic.Sesamoid bone in foot

An acute fracture is caused by trauma—a direct blow or impact to the bone. An acute sesamoid fracture produces immediate pain and swelling at the site of the break but usually does not affect the entire big toe joint. A chronic fracture is a stress fracture (a hairline break usually caused by repetitive stress or overuse).

A chronic sesamoid fracture produces longstanding pain in the ball of the foot beneath the big toe joint. The pain, which tends to come and go, generally is aggravated with activity and relieved with rest.

Sesamoiditis. This is an overuse injury involving chronic inflammation of the sesamoid bones and the tendons involved with those bones. Sesamoiditis is caused by increased pressure on the sesamoids. Often, sesamoiditis is associated with a dull, longstanding pain beneath the big toe joint. The pain comes and goes, usually occurring with certain shoes or certain activities.

https://www.foothealthfacts.org/conditions/sesamoid-injuries-in-the-foot




From what we've heard it sounds like it'd be one of the issues associated with chronic / dull pain as opposed to acute pain.
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Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2019, 03:41:42 AM »

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Any news on what happened with G's 2nd MRI today?
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Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2019, 05:20:22 AM »

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Any news on what happened with G's 2nd MRI today?
It was distributed to the teams interested in trading for him... jk

Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2019, 08:12:48 AM »

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Danny said this morning this is more of a toe related issue, which to me is good news; it seems unrelated to his break a couple of years ago.

I believe he said it was a toe issue "near where the toe connects to the foot," which sounds like a sesamoid issue.


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Types of Sesamoid Injuries in the Foot
There are three types of sesamoid injuries in the foot:

Turf toe. This is an injury of the soft tissue surrounding the big toe joint. It usually occurs when the big toe joint is extended beyond its normal range. Turf toe causes immediate, sharp pain and swelling. It usually affects the entire big toe joint and limits the motion of the toe. Turf toe may result in an injury to the soft tissue attached to the sesamoid or a fracture of the sesamoid. Sometimes a “pop” is felt at the moment of injury.

Fracture. A fracture (break) in a sesamoid bone can be either acute or chronic.Sesamoid bone in foot

An acute fracture is caused by trauma—a direct blow or impact to the bone. An acute sesamoid fracture produces immediate pain and swelling at the site of the break but usually does not affect the entire big toe joint. A chronic fracture is a stress fracture (a hairline break usually caused by repetitive stress or overuse).

A chronic sesamoid fracture produces longstanding pain in the ball of the foot beneath the big toe joint. The pain, which tends to come and go, generally is aggravated with activity and relieved with rest.

Sesamoiditis. This is an overuse injury involving chronic inflammation of the sesamoid bones and the tendons involved with those bones. Sesamoiditis is caused by increased pressure on the sesamoids. Often, sesamoiditis is associated with a dull, longstanding pain beneath the big toe joint. The pain comes and goes, usually occurring with certain shoes or certain activities.

https://www.foothealthfacts.org/conditions/sesamoid-injuries-in-the-foot




From what we've heard it sounds like it'd be one of the issues associated with chronic / dull pain as opposed to acute pain.
Random personal history with this. My wife had what was diagnosed as "turf" toe multiple times and was treated with cortisone twice and then a boot for rest. Finally they did an mri and discovered that the Sesamoid bone had basically "died" as there was no blood flow. She had to have surgery to have it removed which put her non weight bearing for a while. Her issue was extremely painful and flared up with basically any activity or just standing even a moderate amount eventually.

Its a small bone but the pain is bad and very real. Similar to turf toe it can definitely make it impossible to play at times.
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Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2019, 09:11:25 AM »

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Re: Gordon Hayward Foot Soreness
« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2019, 09:16:40 AM »

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If we trade Hayward he will get a trade kicker - 15% of his remaining salary.... maybe that can work for him and the celtics