Semi and Marcus

[rollie mass]

Played Giannis about as tough as anyone could expect.
Semi has quick lateral speed unlike grant Williams, Even though he is in third year he just now seems to have settled into an elevated decisive pace that during pre season was just too hurried and pressed.
His base ,strength and lateral quickness on defence is so unique.

Marcus had a strong game irritating Giannis with defensive IQ and using his core strength .Very impressive display at least to my eye,
And Marcus scored over 19 points.

[Fierce1]

The question is Semi worth keeping just for Giannis?

Semi is basically irrelevant against other teams.

[Monkhouse]

The question is Semi worth keeping just for Giannis?

Semi is basically irrelevant against other teams.

Considering the only team that can honestly rival us is the Bucks, 76ers, and maybe the Raptors, (not buying it at all though,) I would agree that it most definitely is...

A lot of teams employ role players or certain type of defenders/shooters with fixed skill sets to be able to configure into their game plan.

If anything, I'm not convinced the Raptors, Heat, or the Pacers will even be able to contend with us.

The crazy thing is, if everything goes well, I believe we will certainly be in the top 4 seed without a doubt, and be sort of a pretender with a potential contender status contingent upon the success/emergence of our young Jays.

Honestly, our entire team rides on our Big 4, Walker, Hayward, and the Jays. I also don't see how Semi's defense cannot translate against smaller more bulkier guards. I pray Semi somehow figures out how to get his shooting stroke or at least something, because at this point his offense is non-existent, and he can barely pass let alone handle the ball without committing a TO.

[Fierce1]

The question is Semi worth keeping just for Giannis?

Semi is basically irrelevant against other teams.

Considering the only team that can honestly rival us is the Bucks, 76ers, and maybe the Raptors, (not buying it at all though,) I would agree that it most definitely is...

A lot of teams employ role players or certain type of defenders/shooters with fixed skill sets to be able to configure into their game plan.

If anything, I'm not convinced the Raptors, Heat, or the Pacers will even be able to contend with us.

The crazy thing is, if everything goes well, I believe we will certainly be in the top 4 seed without a doubt, and be sort of a pretender with a potential contender status contingent upon the success/emergence of our young Jays.

Honestly, our entire team rides on our Big 4, Walker, Hayward, and the Jays. I also don't see how Semi's defense cannot translate against smaller more bulkier guards. I pray Semi somehow figures out how to get his shooting stroke or at least something, because at this point his offense is non-existent, and he can barely pass let alone handle the ball without committing a TO.

So true.

If only Semi can be average on offense, he will be like PJ Tucker.

[MichiganAdam]

The question is Semi worth keeping just for Giannis?

Semi is basically irrelevant against other teams.

Considering the only team that can honestly rival us is the Bucks, 76ers, and maybe the Raptors, (not buying it at all though,) I would agree that it most definitely is...

A lot of teams employ role players or certain type of defenders/shooters with fixed skill sets to be able to configure into their game plan.

If anything, I'm not convinced the Raptors, Heat, or the Pacers will even be able to contend with us.

The crazy thing is, if everything goes well, I believe we will certainly be in the top 4 seed without a doubt, and be sort of a pretender with a potential contender status contingent upon the success/emergence of our young Jays.

Honestly, our entire team rides on our Big 4, Walker, Hayward, and the Jays. I also don't see how Semi's defense cannot translate against smaller more bulkier guards. I pray Semi somehow figures out how to get his shooting stroke or at least something, because at this point his offense is non-existent, and he can barely pass let alone handle the ball without committing a TO.

You have to add MS in there.  He has earned that consideration.  Also feels good to beat the bucks without JB.  He doesn't have the bulk to slow Giannis, but he would have made middleton work a little harder.

[droopdog7]

The question is Semi worth keeping just for Giannis?

Semi is basically irrelevant against other teams.

Is he worth keeping?  Is there any doubt?  Most guys that aren’t in the regulars rotation can’t play anyway.  We don’t need more guys with athleticism/potential.  Give me a lunch pail guy with a proven skill all day every day.

[RockinRyA]

If Semi won't cost much, Im fine with him on the team. He knows the sets, team is comfortable with him and won't complain if he doesnt play/touch the ball. You need those kind of guys. If he prevents you from getting a good player, that's when we have to consider it. But at this point, its ok.

[Fierce1]

If Semi won't cost much, Im fine with him on the team. He knows the sets, team is comfortable with him and won't complain if he doesnt play/touch the ball. You need those kind of guys. If he prevents you from getting a good player, that's when we have to consider it. But at this point, its ok.

Yes, that could change when Ainge makes a move in December or January.

[bellerephon]

Semi is very far from below average on offense, he’s practically useless on offense. He’s a good defender and as such useful to have at the end of the bench, he’s certainly worth keeping around at the minimum. I wouldn’t have a problem with Danny cutting him if they need the roster spot, however.

[footey]

I'm glad Rollie singled out Semi for his defensive efforts last night.  He didn't show much in the box score, but his defense was excellent, and justifies his roster spot. We pay him very little for that kind of value.  Guys are going to get sick or hurt, and he fits into our system very well.  Hoping he can make his corner 3 more consistently.

[Surferdad]

The question is Semi worth keeping just for Giannis?

Semi is basically irrelevant against other teams.

Is he worth keeping?  Is there any doubt?  Most guys that aren’t in the regulars rotation can’t play anyway.  We don’t need more guys with athleticism/potential.  Give me a lunch pail guy with a proven skill all day every day.

I like Semi quite a bit, but I predict Grant Williams will surpass him in a year or two.

[tstorey_97]

The question is Semi worth keeping just for Giannis?

Semi is basically irrelevant against other teams.

Is he worth keeping?  Is there any doubt?  Most guys that aren’t in the regulars rotation can’t play anyway.  We don’t need more guys with athleticism/potential.  Give me a lunch pail guy with a proven skill all day every day.

I like Semi quite a bit, but I predict Grant Williams will surpass him in a year or two.

Semi does rise to the occasion against the Bucks.

At SMU, he was all conference and averaged 19 PPG. Offensively he's a slasher, but, on the court with NBA starters, he prefers to watch the game on the offensive end.

His defense is stylized and is kryptonite for the freak.

Grant Williams is quite different on defense. His positioning/timing is extraordinary. His body control too. He doesn't over step or overrun the ball handler.

I think this concept..."Grant will replace Semi in the future" seems rational.

On the other hand, Semi is a core member of the team. He has played in a lot of huge games, basically works for minimum wage and never complains.

For a team that is "short on size" Semi is handy when banging around opposing bigs.

[wdleehi]

The question is Semi worth keeping just for Giannis?

Semi is basically irrelevant against other teams.

Semi has a role and can come off the bench and play that role well without consistent minutes game to game. 

No one else on the team plays that role.   Most the bigs are limited in terms of being good at one or two things but not the others.   It is the mix of them that the Celtics need for different situations right now. 

[Fierce1]

The question is Semi worth keeping just for Giannis?

Semi is basically irrelevant against other teams.

Semi has a role and can come off the bench and play that role well without consistent minutes game to game. 

No one else on the team plays that role.   Most the bigs are limited in terms of being good at one or two things but not the others.   It is the mix of them that the Celtics need for different situations right now.

Here's the thing, Ainge will be in a position to upgrade the roster and get a better big man than what the Celts currently have.

But the price to pay might have to include trading Semi.

[wdleehi]

The question is Semi worth keeping just for Giannis?

Semi is basically irrelevant against other teams.

Semi has a role and can come off the bench and play that role well without consistent minutes game to game. 

No one else on the team plays that role.   Most the bigs are limited in terms of being good at one or two things but not the others.   It is the mix of them that the Celtics need for different situations right now.

Here's the thing, Ainge will be in a position to upgrade the roster and get a better big man than what the Celts currently have.

But the price to pay might have to include trading Semi.

Trading any of the big men (or multiple big men) that leads to a big man that can do more is always possible.