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Re: Hayward takes a step back and allows other to shine
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2019, 07:31:04 AM »

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No...ain't buying it.

my opinion is he is still a very good player but for his current production he certainly does not deserve the amount Wyc is paying him.

my prediction is he will ave. 16ppg this season which is definitely not worth 32m per season...I think he has an opt out in his final yr...expecting him not to exercise that option because his current market value remains low.

He would have to break out like a Kawhi like 2018/19 edition for his contract to be justified.
Lol. What's with you and PPG being the be-all and end-all of a player.

There's no way his contract will ever be justified. That's never ever going to happen. Unless he single-handedly leads us to a title, the fact of the matter is that we lost essentially two years due to an especially gruesome and unforeseeable injury.
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Re: Hayward takes a step back and allows other to shine
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2019, 11:20:15 AM »

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So far so good with Hayward.  He's averaging 34.3 MPG, 17.5 PPG, and 7.3 RPG.  These are all really good numbers for him, especially on a team with Walker, Tatum, and Brown.
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2019, 11:45:51 AM »

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So far so good with Hayward.  He's averaging 34.3 MPG, 17.5 PPG, and 7.3 RPG.  These are all really good numbers for him, especially on a team with Walker, Tatum, and Brown.

Really good shooting splits as well.

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So far so good with Hayward.  He's averaging 34.3 MPG, 17.5 PPG, and 7.3 RPG.  These are all really good numbers for him, especially on a team with Walker, Tatum, and Brown.

Really good shooting splits as well.

Ya that actually worries me just a little, guy wont shoot 58% from three al year and he still ends up pulling up short of the basket on a lot of drives. But he's way  better than last year. If he can give you 16/7/4 on good efficiency all  year thats great.

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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2019, 12:16:45 PM »

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So far so good with Hayward.  He's averaging 34.3 MPG, 17.5 PPG, and 7.3 RPG.  These are all really good numbers for him, especially on a team with Walker, Tatum, and Brown.

Really good shooting splits as well.

Ya that actually worries me just a little, guy wont shoot 58% from three al year and he still ends up pulling up short of the basket on a lot of drives. But he's way  better than last year. If he can give you 16/7/4 on good efficiency all  year thats great.
Lol.

He shoots poorly from the field, he's done. He shoots great from the field, let's worry.

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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2019, 12:38:04 PM »

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So far so good with Hayward.  He's averaging 34.3 MPG, 17.5 PPG, and 7.3 RPG.  These are all really good numbers for him, especially on a team with Walker, Tatum, and Brown.

Really good shooting splits as well.

Ya that actually worries me just a little, guy wont shoot 58% from three al year and he still ends up pulling up short of the basket on a lot of drives. But he's way  better than last year. If he can give you 16/7/4 on good efficiency all  year thats great.
Lol.

He shoots poorly from the field, he's done. He shoots great from the field, let's worry.

Celtics fans are unreal.

Well if you lump together a bunch of different fans views then ya, you'll get some contradictory opinions. I'm consistent. I don't panic over Tatum shooting 35% from 2. But I don't expect hayward to shoot 58% from 3 either. All hail reversion to the mean.

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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2019, 01:21:41 PM »

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I thought he played really well last night.  His ability to facilitate the offense played a huge role in that 2nd half comeback.  Lot of smart decision making on his end.


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Re: Hayward takes a step back and allows other to shine
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2019, 01:27:11 PM »

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He is a better version of Evan Turner when he was with us.  When he drives to the hoop and stops he is looking to facilitate a better shot for some else.  I love it when he plays well, the C's are so much better.  I just hope that he can sustain some consistency.  He was the first catalyst for the come back last night.  When he was coming off the top he dominated.  He opens up so much more for the offense.

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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2019, 01:36:20 PM »

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He is a better version of Evan Turner when he was with us.  When he drives to the hoop and stops he is looking to facilitate a better shot for some else.  I love it when he plays well, the C's are so much better.  I just hope that he can sustain some consistency.  He was the first catalyst for the come back last night.  When he was coming off the top he dominated.  He opens up so much more for the offense.

I cringe when I see people compare Hayward to Turner, or even say he is a better version of Turner.

The difference between 17-8-4 and 10-5-4 is pretty significant, especially when you add the legit threat to shoot threes. By the end, Turner only would shoot corner threes.

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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2019, 01:56:00 PM »

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He is a better version of Evan Turner when he was with us.  When he drives to the hoop and stops he is looking to facilitate a better shot for some else.  I love it when he plays well, the C's are so much better.  I just hope that he can sustain some consistency.  He was the first catalyst for the come back last night.  When he was coming off the top he dominated.  He opens up so much more for the offense.

I cringe when I see people compare Hayward to Turner, or even say he is a better version of Turner.

The difference between 17-8-4 and 10-5-4 is pretty significant, especially when you add the legit threat to shoot threes. By the end, Turner only would shoot corner threes.

I dont get it either. I mean the two are probably comparable passing wise, but even if Halyard  of last year was still a far better shooter than Turner has been and for that reason alone brings more value.

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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2019, 02:10:09 PM »

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He is a better version of Evan Turner when he was with us.  When he drives to the hoop and stops he is looking to facilitate a better shot for some else.  I love it when he plays well, the C's are so much better.  I just hope that he can sustain some consistency.  He was the first catalyst for the come back last night.  When he was coming off the top he dominated.  He opens up so much more for the offense.

I cringe when I see people compare Hayward to Turner, or even say he is a better version of Turner.

The difference between 17-8-4 and 10-5-4 is pretty significant, especially when you add the legit threat to shoot threes. By the end, Turner only would shoot corner threes.

I dont get it either. I mean the two are probably comparable passing wise, but even if Halyard  of last year was still a far better shooter than Turner has been and for that reason alone brings more value.

Hey now. You've gotta respect a 15-percent 3-point shooter. A guy like that is always lethal.

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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2019, 02:33:42 PM »

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IMO, these guys are still learning to play with each other, and will really hit their stride by year end. Hayward won't shoot 58% from 3 all year, but otherwise I think his play will only get better. He's a legit playmaker, and he can get that little 12-15 footer in the middle almost any time he wants it. He was deadly with that in Utah, he's never really had a chance to establish consistency with it here.

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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2019, 02:34:27 PM »

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One thing about Hayward that seems to be underrated is his ability to start a fast break. He is faster than I ever thought he was in running break and can either take it to the rim or make the correct pass. He is not the locomotive that Lebron use to be, but he is [dang] good at it.

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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2019, 02:44:23 PM »

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One thing about Hayward that seems to be underrated is his ability to start a fast break. He is faster than I ever thought he was in running break and can either take it to the rim or make the correct pass. He is not the locomotive that Lebron use to be, but he is [dang] good at it.

That's because Hayward doesn't look like a freak athlete.

Hayward is the best all-around player the Celts have right now.

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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2019, 02:47:58 PM »

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One thing about Hayward that seems to be underrated is his ability to start a fast break. He is faster than I ever thought he was in running break and can either take it to the rim or make the correct pass. He is not the locomotive that Lebron use to be, but he is [dang] good at it.

That's because Hayward doesn't look like a freak athlete.

Hayward is the best all-around player the Celts have right now.

Ehh. Hayward is a really good athlete, and it's probably a dumb debate to start, but Jaylen Brown is the Celtics' best athlete.