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Re: Raptors (1-0) at Celtics (0-1) Game #2 10/25/19
« Reply #705 on: October 25, 2019, 10:56:23 PM »

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Re: Raptors (1-0) at Celtics (0-1) Game #2 10/25/19
« Reply #706 on: October 25, 2019, 11:16:12 PM »

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This was a really fun game to watch.  Really high-level basketball played by both teams, especially for game 2.  Hope all who were there enjoyed it as much as I did from the couch!

Jaylen played one of the best games of his career.  That half-court bounce pass he threw to Hayward on the break was a piece of art. And Siakam certainly looks like a max-level player for Toronto. 

Go Celtics!

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« Reply #707 on: October 25, 2019, 11:19:19 PM »

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Just tuned in for the final 1:30 of the game, how did we OUTREBOUND THE RAPTORS BY GRABBING 21 OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS?!

That's why it was time for Horford to move on.

The Celtic players this season are faster and more active.
Yes, but apparently we grabbed a ton of those boards by trotting out small ball lineups lol

A big part of it was GWill he pulled down 6 offensive boards and Tatum, Kemba, Hayward and Theis each had 3. GWill was beasting it when he was in, pulling down offensive rebounds against Gasol, Ibaka and Siakam
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Re: Raptors (1-0) at Celtics (0-1) Game #2 10/25/19
« Reply #708 on: October 25, 2019, 11:29:18 PM »

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This was a really fun game to watch.  Really high-level basketball played by both teams, especially for game 2.  Hope all who were there enjoyed it as much as I did from the couch!

Jaylen played one of the best games of his career.  That half-court bounce pass he threw to Hayward on the break was a piece of art. And Siakam certainly looks like a max-level player for Toronto. 

Go Celtics!

Its fun for them when they know that they are part of the team and not just spectating and watching the captain dribble the shot clock away. It is probably a credit to the team that they did not rebel last year.

Re: Raptors (1-0) at Celtics (0-1) Game #2 10/25/19
« Reply #709 on: October 25, 2019, 11:30:50 PM »

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definitely picked up on that dig at Kyrie from Jaylen in the postgame.  seems to confirm what many suspected about Kyrie's influence in the locker room

what did Jaylen say.

EDIT: I found the interview. Disregard the other link

Check out the interview:

https://twitter.com/NBCSCeltics/status/1187935136551231491?s=20

Pretty obvious who "having a tantrum" referred to

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Re: Raptors (1-0) at Celtics (0-1) Game #2 10/25/19
« Reply #710 on: October 26, 2019, 12:12:59 AM »

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Just tuned in for the final 1:30 of the game, how did we OUTREBOUND THE RAPTORS BY GRABBING 21 OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS?!

That's why it was time for Horford to move on.

The Celtic players this season are faster and more active.
Yes, but apparently we grabbed a ton of those boards by trotting out small ball lineups lol

A big part of it was GWill he pulled down 6 offensive boards and Tatum, Kemba, Hayward and Theis each had 3. GWill was beasting it when he was in, pulling down offensive rebounds against Gasol, Ibaka and Siakam
Wow. I guess his freakish strength is coming in handy lol.
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« Reply #711 on: October 26, 2019, 12:34:56 AM »

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Excited about G Williams.  Thought it was telling that he was on the court for most of crunch time.  Team is already starting to trust him.

He’ll need to make a few more of those corner threes going forward, but it’s a new shot for him and will take some time. 

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« Reply #712 on: October 26, 2019, 02:07:51 AM »

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Good team win. Love to see Hayward pumped up, and Kemba integrating himself seamlessly.

No drama with Kemba.
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« Reply #713 on: October 26, 2019, 02:33:50 AM »

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Toronto's 3-point shooting was ridiculous. Siakam is a 6-9 power forward who plays like Kawhi Leonard. I thought we were looking at a loss tonite.

These two games were an exact opposite replica of last season. We started 18-19 by beating Philly handily at home, then went on the road to Toronto, led early and faded in the 2nd half to lose. Anything opposite of last season is a good omen.
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Re: Raptors (1-0) at Celtics (0-1) Game #2 10/25/19
« Reply #714 on: October 26, 2019, 04:54:04 AM »

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Just rewatched the first quarter and did some tracking on our three wings. I hope you guys enjoy it!

Tatum:
1. Good pocket pass to Theis on PnR to start the game.
2. Botched a high leverage interior dish to Hayward on a post up at 9:45 in the 1st quarter. Garnett would've seen the opening and made the pass.
3. Sagged off too much to help Brown on a Siakam drive because of his ball-watching tendencies on defense at 8:08 in the 1st, it led to an open Lowry three.
4. Another case of tunnel vision at 7:55 in the 1st, missed an open Jaylen Brown that he could've hit with a skip pass.
5. Not sure about this, but he could've fired off a pass to Hayward in the corner at 7:22 in the 1st instead of shooting a floater at the elbow even though it was a good look
6. Nice floater off the pick at 2:29, there was no one who got open due to the threat of him driving, so the floater was a good decision.
7. Not too hot on him shooting a contested floater at the FT line when he could've kicked it out to Smart at 1:50.
8. Good pullup three after a Grant "Tuckwagon 2.0" Williams screen got him open.
9. Tatum looks more like Jeff Green than Paul Pierce with this wild drive right at Ibaka instead of throwing a behind the back pass to G-Will at 0:57 or so.
10. Got himself open for three in transition at 0:42, he failed to convert but deserves credit for running to a spot where he can pick up some easy points.

Brown:
1. Strong left-hand drive and finish for his first points.
2. Good kickout to Hayward the next possession off a pick after collapsing the defense.
3. Excellent use of the Theis screen with an advanced dribble move to drive in the opposite direction and create a 2 on 1 power play for an open floater.
4. Strong drive right into Gasol for the easy transition layup-efficient picking of the low hanging fruit available in a basketball game.
5. First meh play on offense at 7:45 in the 1st, he could've slid in a pass to Hayward in the paint.
6. Good pass to Kemba at 7:12 in the 1st for the drive and floater.
7. Late pass to an open Smart at 6:19.
8. Good kickout to Grant Williams at 0:23, nothing amazing but still a solid pass.

Hayward:
1. Aggressive drive at 6:47 off the pick to draw a foul on Gasol, but should've tried a Eurostep to the right for a better look.
2. Miller-esque cut after faking to run to the three point line for an easy basket that was disallowed for "pushing" his defender.
3. Should have passed to an open Grant Williams at the corner on the drive at 5:21.
4. Matador perimeter defense leading to a blowby by legend Norman Powell at 3:55.
5. Fumbled the ball after a behind the back dribble at 3:42, leading to a TO after Fred Van Jordan poked it away.

Thoughts:
1. Tatum's offense is a mixed bag-he has a ton of skills in his toolbox, but isn't adept at utilising them effectively to generate elite offense. His decision making, vision and passing are also quite subpar-he needs a physical transformation as well as a massive improvement in vision and BBIQ to become that transcendent superstar we want him to be.

2. Brown has made massive improvements in the offseason to his already effective game-he has expanded his offensive arsenal, has a better rhythm on offense and has developed much better basketball sense and vision on the court. He's converting "good" passes at a pretty high rate for a wing of his reputation (p--- poor passing), and has shown a number of advanced dribble moves to create space off the dribble, something that all wing superstars have unless they're a Reggie Miller type. If he keeps it up he'll be worth every single penny of that extension and some more.

3. Hayward is a very nice piece for the Celtics. He's a skilled wing who can take up a number of roles, whether it's being the first option on offense or as a complementary piece who plays mainly off ball (that cut was nice, and he stood in some good spots for open shots). He does have a major flaw though-his drives to the left are awful. He always stops before he gets to the basket and pulls up for an awkward one legged runner that's a poor shot, and fails to recognise open teammates when he's thinking of going up with that shot. He's also a meh perimeter defender after his ankle injury, he really doesn't have the speed to keep up with elite perimeter players anymore. I think it's time to drop the PG comparisons-PG had his incredible length to fall back on, and retained more of his athleticism after the injury. 
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Re: Raptors (1-0) at Celtics (0-1) Game #2 10/25/19
« Reply #715 on: October 26, 2019, 05:16:17 AM »

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We really put up a fight, Toronto is such a well run and coached team, with championship wind in their sails.

I thought that Hayward needed more touches all game long, he creates with ease, especially when it's really hard for us to score and we settle for long J's.

Kemba missed a few easy one's but kicked off in the 4th

Timelord was really good, still a bit misplaced when opponents drive, and he took a few gambles but for a 15-20 guy off the bench, he can really be a great factor.

G Will look like a rookie in the first half, in the second half he looked like a 4 year pro

Tatum is still taking way to many shots, get to the line young fella

Smart just needs to stop taking long 3's, get closer to the line, but he really got us back with 2 big ones late in the game.

Overally, a great game against a quality opponent, and a nice way to start at home, look to improve on D
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« Reply #716 on: October 26, 2019, 06:21:51 AM »

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G Will look like a rookie in the first half, in the second half he looked like a 4 year pro

He is a really smart guy and  I wager he figured some stuff out.

Re: Raptors (1-0) at Celtics (0-1) Game #2 10/25/19
« Reply #717 on: October 26, 2019, 10:40:39 AM »

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Welp it seems like my tracking isn't piquing anyone's interest :(. Still happy to see the Celtics doing well, hope we can win another game tomorrow!
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« Reply #718 on: October 26, 2019, 10:47:20 AM »

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G Will look like a rookie in the first half, in the second half he looked like a 4 year pro

He is a really smart guy and  I wager he figured some stuff out.
I think we are all about to fall in love with G Will. Dude is like a bigger Smart. He just makes good plays. I’d don’t think he’ll ever be an all star type player but he could legit be a a good bench/role guy.

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« Reply #719 on: October 26, 2019, 10:57:25 AM »

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G Will look like a rookie in the first half, in the second half he looked like a 4 year pro

He is a really smart guy and  I wager he figured some stuff out.
I think we are all about to fall in love with G Will. Dude is like a bigger Smart. He just makes good plays. I’d don’t think he’ll ever be an all star type player but he could legit be a a good bench/role guy.
I think PJ Tucker with less defensive versatility but better offense is a more apt comparison for Grant Williams.
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