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Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2019, 09:57:37 PM »

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sounds like the NBA needs to remove the Suns' owner so they can bring make this a model franchise again. 

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2019, 09:59:15 PM »

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I have never really understood the need for drug testing in sports. Let em juice that way the field is level. This way you have some that get away with juicing and because they are not tested.

Generally speaking, PEDs can have long-term health effects.  If you permit it, players would be compelled to use them, either implicitly because they need to in order to stay competitive, or explicitly when teams require them to do so.

Common sense will prevail then. Once the health effects manifest the marketplace will work itself out. I think the players that have the natural occurrence of the strength hormones (or whatever) have an advantage as it is now.

Perhaps common sense has already worked itself out in the form of prohibitions on usage.  This is quite likely the case, despite Mark Cuban’s and your protestations.

Dont know Mark's  position on the issue, but do you think the NBA gets everyone that is juicing?

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2019, 09:59:33 PM »

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Never understood why players still use PEDs to juice themselves, HGH is king nowadays.

HGH is a prohibited PED, for which the NBA has been testing for four years.

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2019, 10:00:23 PM »

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Never understood why players still use PEDs to juice themselves, HGH is king nowadays.

HGH is a prohibited PED, for which the NBA has been testing for four years.
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Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2019, 10:01:36 PM »

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Never understood why players still use PEDs to juice themselves, HGH is king nowadays.

HGH is a prohibited PED, for which the NBA has been testing for four years.

well then have mandatory testing for everybody, none of this random testing nonsense.

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2019, 10:01:45 PM »

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I have never really understood the need for drug testing in sports. Let em juice that way the field is level. This way you have some that get away with juicing and because they are not tested.

Generally speaking, PEDs can have long-term health effects.  If you permit it, players would be compelled to use them, either implicitly because they need to in order to stay competitive, or explicitly when teams require them to do so.

Common sense will prevail then. Once the health effects manifest the marketplace will work itself out. I think the players that have the natural occurrence of the strength hormones (or whatever) have an advantage as it is now.

Perhaps common sense has already worked itself out in the form of prohibitions on usage.  This is quite likely the case, despite Mark Cuban’s and your protestations.

Dont know Mark's  position on the issue, but do you think the NBA gets everyone that is juicing?

No, it is flat-out impossible to get everyone who is juicing, just as it is impossible to catch everyone else who cheats in some way.  Many if not most people who drink and drive are not caught, but I still feel much better that we still try to catch them anyway.

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2019, 10:04:29 PM »

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I have never really understood the need for drug testing in sports. Let em juice that way the field is level. This way you have some that get away with juicing and because they are not tested.

Generally speaking, PEDs can have long-term health effects.  If you permit it, players would be compelled to use them, either implicitly because they need to in order to stay competitive, or explicitly when teams require them to do so.

Common sense will prevail then. Once the health effects manifest the marketplace will work itself out. I think the players that have the natural occurrence of the strength hormones (or whatever) have an advantage as it is now.

Perhaps common sense has already worked itself out in the form of prohibitions on usage.  This is quite likely the case, despite Mark Cuban’s and your protestations.

Dont know Mark's  position on the issue, but do you think the NBA gets everyone that is juicing?

No, it is flat-out impossible to get everyone who is juicing, just as it is impossible to catch everyone else who cheats in some way.  Many if not most people who drink and drive are not caught, but I still feel much better that we still try to catch them anyway.

DUI is a public safety issue. Juicing should be regulated not banned. By the way alcohol is not banned it is just regulated. Let them juice safely.

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2019, 10:04:39 PM »

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Never understood why players still use PEDs to juice themselves, HGH is king nowadays.

HGH is a prohibited PED, for which the NBA has been testing for four years.

well then have mandatory testing for everybody, none of this random testing nonsense.

Testing is mandatory for everyone, a minimum of three times per year.  The specific day it occurs is random, so as to limit the ability of players to use when they won’t be tested so that is out of their system on testing days, but everyone is tested.  NBA stars who compete internationally are subject to additional testing by FIBA/Olympics/WADA.

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2019, 10:06:07 PM »

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I have never really understood the need for drug testing in sports. Let em juice that way the field is level. This way you have some that get away with juicing and because they are not tested.

Generally speaking, PEDs can have long-term health effects.  If you permit it, players would be compelled to use them, either implicitly because they need to in order to stay competitive, or explicitly when teams require them to do so.

Common sense will prevail then. Once the health effects manifest the marketplace will work itself out. I think the players that have the natural occurrence of the strength hormones (or whatever) have an advantage as it is now.

Perhaps common sense has already worked itself out in the form of prohibitions on usage.  This is quite likely the case, despite Mark Cuban’s and your protestations.

Dont know Mark's  position on the issue, but do you think the NBA gets everyone that is juicing?

No, it is flat-out impossible to get everyone who is juicing, just as it is impossible to catch everyone else who cheats in some way.  Many if not most people who drink and drive are not caught, but I still feel much better that we still try to catch them anyway.

DUI is a public safety issue. Juicing should be regulated not banned. By the way alcohol is not banned it is just regulated. Let them juice safely.

Teenagers juice.  It is absolutely a public safety issue.  The drugs themselves are many times regulated, and not banned, because there are legitimate therapeutic uses for them.

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2019, 10:59:48 PM »

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So happy I took a chance on him in my fantasy league  ::) Ughh, at least it is h2h and not rotisserie.

The dude already looked so promising - no need to take it to this extreme...even if it isn't proven that he actually did (like, maybe he really needed the diuretic...hey, it's possible).

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2019, 11:03:50 PM »

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I have never really understood the need for drug testing in sports. Let em juice that way the field is level. This way you have some that get away with juicing and because they are not tested.

Generally speaking, PEDs can have long-term health effects.  If you permit it, players would be compelled to use them, either implicitly because they need to in order to stay competitive, or explicitly when teams require them to do so.

Common sense will prevail then. Once the health effects manifest the marketplace will work itself out. I think the players that have the natural occurrence of the strength hormones (or whatever) have an advantage as it is now.

Perhaps common sense has already worked itself out in the form of prohibitions on usage.  This is quite likely the case, despite Mark Cuban’s and your protestations.

Dont know Mark's  position on the issue, but do you think the NBA gets everyone that is juicing?

No, it is flat-out impossible to get everyone who is juicing, just as it is impossible to catch everyone else who cheats in some way.  Many if not most people who drink and drive are not caught, but I still feel much better that we still try to catch them anyway.

DUI is a public safety issue. Juicing should be regulated not banned. By the way alcohol is not banned it is just regulated. Let them juice safely.
I don't know if there ever would be "safe" juicing. As saltlover points out, it is already regulated in many instances. And in an industry where there is so much money involved, it is only natural that people would push the limits of juicing. People are going to try and gain an illicit advantage however possible.
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Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2019, 11:13:46 PM »

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I have never really understood the need for drug testing in sports. Let em juice that way the field is level. This way you have some that get away with juicing and because they are not tested.

Generally speaking, PEDs can have long-term health effects.  If you permit it, players would be compelled to use them, either implicitly because they need to in order to stay competitive, or explicitly when teams require them to do so.

Common sense will prevail then. Once the health effects manifest the marketplace will work itself out. I think the players that have the natural occurrence of the strength hormones (or whatever) have an advantage as it is now.

Perhaps common sense has already worked itself out in the form of prohibitions on usage.  This is quite likely the case, despite Mark Cuban’s and your protestations.

Dont know Mark's  position on the issue, but do you think the NBA gets everyone that is juicing?

No, it is flat-out impossible to get everyone who is juicing, just as it is impossible to catch everyone else who cheats in some way.  Many if not most people who drink and drive are not caught, but I still feel much better that we still try to catch them anyway.

DUI is a public safety issue. Juicing should be regulated not banned. By the way alcohol is not banned it is just regulated. Let them juice safely.
I don't know if there ever would be "safe" juicing. As saltlover points out, it is already regulated in many instances. And in an industry where there is so much money involved, it is only natural that people would push the limits of juicing. People are going to try and gain an illicit advantage however possible.

Well if everyone is doing it, where is the advantage?

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2019, 09:26:29 AM »

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I have never really understood the need for drug testing in sports. Let em juice that way the field is level. This way you have some that get away with juicing and because they are not tested.

Generally speaking, PEDs can have long-term health effects.  If you permit it, players would be compelled to use them, either implicitly because they need to in order to stay competitive, or explicitly when teams require them to do so.

Common sense will prevail then. Once the health effects manifest the marketplace will work itself out. I think the players that have the natural occurrence of the strength hormones (or whatever) have an advantage as it is now.

Like how the helth effects of head injuries have caused the marketplace to "work itself out" when it comes to head injuries?
I'm bitter.

Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2019, 09:37:30 AM »

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Re: DeAndre Ayton 25 game suspension
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2019, 09:41:31 AM »

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diuretic?
thats not that bad
im pretty sure they take diuretics all the time in the European league.

get it?
diuretic
European?

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