Brown, Celtics agree on 4 years-115 million

[mainevent]

Good deal for JB and for the C's.  What's hard to believe and I think sometimes forgotten is that Jaylen is only 22 years old!! He has so much room to grow and has taken his game up a few levels every season he's been with us.  He's passionate and dedicated to his craft and very much involved in the league and has been an ambassador for the young guys since his rookie season.  He gets a LOT of respect from his peers and is the type of player this team can stand to have representing us.  There's going to be a lot of kick-back about the numbers here and social media wide which is only going to fuel his fire even more! Glad to have him locked to us for the foreseeable future...

[Birdman]

Sabonis got 4 years-77 million

[keevsnick]

I'm as big a Jaylen fan as there is, and look I actually think he will be worth that contract. I just didn't think the Celtics would give it to him without making him test the market. I'm guessing some of the reported 115$ includes incentives.

[ausbacker]

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[NKY fan]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Brown’s agent @JGlushon and Danny Ainge negotiated much of the deal over the weekend in Boston. This is Ainge’s first rookie extension deal as GM since Rajon Rondo in 2009. – via Twitter

Subtle comment from Voj on Danny’s cap management or drafting in the last 10 years lol 😂

[KGs Knee]

My only concern is if the cap drops due to loss of BRI from China. If so this could end up being a bad deal.

I kind of agree here.

It's entirely possible this ends up being a full max contract, and if the cap drops as far as I think it might, his contract actually would have to be scaled down.

Now, if the cap were to stay at the projected $116 mil for next season, this isn't terrible, as it would only represent roughly 22% of the cap.  That's still quite a bit more of the cap than I'd want to pay Jaylen, but it's not that bad so long as the cap keeps rising.

But if the cap comes in somewhere closer to $100 mil next season, as I suspect it will, this ends up being a full 25% max contract.  That's not good value at all, not unless Jaylen makes a leap this year.

[Phantom255x]

Don’t know that we had a choice really. Hopefully Brown proves to be worth it.

IDK, man.

If we are willing to shell that for Jaylen, wouldn't it be better if we just have him test the RFA market and match any offer?

A bad/mediocre team with cap space would have offered him max in all likelihood.

In which case, we should just match. If we are willing to go $115 million, surely we can go for the max if it comes to that.

The flip side, is if the market is soft on him, we could get him for his fair value.

IDK. I mean, I'm stoked that we are keeping Jaylen, but man, I think we could have played the negotiations better.

True, but Bobby Manning tweeted this, and I agree with him:

Better to cement trust, loyalty now than fester bad vibes into next July only to pay him the same thing. #Celtics were never getting a discount on him.

I know we went that route with Smart, but Jaylen clearly has a much higher ceiling and a lot of other guys around him were getting their extensions (Hield, now Sabonis, etc.)

[blink]

Don’t know that we had a choice really. Hopefully Brown proves to be worth it.

IDK, man.

If we are willing to shell that for Jaylen, wouldn't it be better if we just have him test the RFA market and match any offer?

A bad/mediocre team with cap space would have offered him max in all likelihood.

In which case, we should just match. If we are willing to go $115 million, surely we can go for the max if it comes to that.

The flip side, is if the market is soft on him, we could get him for his fair value.

IDK. I mean, I'm stoked that we are keeping Jaylen, but man, I think we could have played the negotiations better.

It seems like a lot I know. 

But if he gets a max offer then we are at 170 for 5 right?  So there is some savings if DA really thinks that Jaylen was going to get a full 5 year max after this year.

[Valid]

For Jeff Green 2.0.   Too much imo.

Maybe 100 is suffice tbh.

Do we still have enough without going over the tax for JT.?

Maybe he will be included in trade scenarios... We all know how traded Danny thinks.

Except he is already twice the player Green ever was.

I'm not as huge on Brown as a lot of other Celtics fans but come on.

[keevsnick]

Don’t know that we had a choice really. Hopefully Brown proves to be worth it.

IDK, man.

If we are willing to shell that for Jaylen, wouldn't it be better if we just have him test the RFA market and match any offer?

A bad/mediocre team with cap space would have offered him max in all likelihood.

In which case, we should just match. If we are willing to go $115 million, surely we can go for the max if it comes to that.

The flip side, is if the market is soft on him, we could get him for his fair value.

IDK. I mean, I'm stoked that we are keeping Jaylen, but man, I think we could have played the negotiations better.

True, but Bobby Manning tweeted this, and I agree with him:

Better to cement trust, loyalty now than fester bad vibes into next July only to pay him the same thing. #Celtics were never getting a discount on him.

I know we went that route with Smart, but Jaylen clearly has a much higher ceiling and a lot of other guys around him were getting their extensions (Hield, now Sabonis, etc.)

Smart also entered a very restricted off season salary cap wise, nobody had much money to spend (if I am remembering right).

[keevsnick]

Don’t know that we had a choice really. Hopefully Brown proves to be worth it.

IDK, man.

If we are willing to shell that for Jaylen, wouldn't it be better if we just have him test the RFA market and match any offer?

A bad/mediocre team with cap space would have offered him max in all likelihood.

In which case, we should just match. If we are willing to go $115 million, surely we can go for the max if it comes to that.

The flip side, is if the market is soft on him, we could get him for his fair value.

IDK. I mean, I'm stoked that we are keeping Jaylen, but man, I think we could have played the negotiations better.

It seems like a lot I know. 

But if he gets a max offer then we are at 170 for 5 right?  So there is some savings if DA really thinks that Jaylen was going to get a full 5 year max after this year.

well really you are comparing the first 4 years. If the Celtics waited till next offseason the max they could offer (at the current projected cap number) would have been 130/4.

[__ramonezy__]

Things are lining up for a mid-season trade of Gordon Hayward. This is a big investment for someone to come off the bench.

[PAOBoston]

Don’t know that we had a choice really. Hopefully Brown proves to be worth it.

IDK, man.

If we are willing to shell that for Jaylen, wouldn't it be better if we just have him test the RFA market and match any offer?

A bad/mediocre team with cap space would have offered him max in all likelihood.

In which case, we should just match. If we are willing to go $115 million, surely we can go for the max if it comes to that.

The flip side, is if the market is soft on him, we could get him for his fair value.

IDK. I mean, I'm stoked that we are keeping Jaylen, but man, I think we could have played the negotiations better.

I think it was smart to lock him up now. Had he not signed this deal, I bet it would still have been on the table next summer. Issue is, since the RFA/FA scene is barren next year, teams like Cleveland etc would almost for sure offer him full max. Makes sense to keep him happy, take care of your own before the season, and have him go into the year and just focus on basketball instead of press like Rozier for example and just have an awful year.

This deal is more of a bet on future development than what he is actually worth right now.

[keevsnick]

Its worth noting that Brown cannot be traded this year, players that sign extensions can't be traded for 6 months which is after the trade deadline. So for those who wnat to up grade at the big man spot its triicky.

Now a point to clear up, I believe he can be traded after the end of the season but before July1st he'd be subject to the poison pill provision correct? After July 1st he counts as next years salary.

[NKY fan]

Things are lining up for a mid-season trade of Gordon Hayward. This is a big investment for someone to come off the bench.

If Hayward plays better than last year he might end up being a top 10 free agent with 6-7 teams with space and need at his position and veterans presence in which case he may not pick his option for 2020.
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