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McGrady is a small forward. through and through.

I think he’s one of the rare players who was truly interchangeable, but I think he created more mismatches at SG.
His best offensive season was clearly 02-03 when he was a SG in Orlando.  His best season in Houston, though, he was a SF in 04-05. The problem with him at SG though is he was a very bad defender.  He was a much better defender at SF.  I'd have no issue using him at SG in this, but Curry/Nash are bad defenders and Dr. J isn't exactly a great one so that is the only downside with him as the starting SG.  I mean that team is worse defensively then my team from the 3 small positions (very strong defenders at 4/5 though which does help).

You beat me to it. This will be the conundrum.

Pick his Orlando season and you have a bad defender, but quite possibly one of the best pure scorers in the game. Pick any of his Houston seasons and you'd get a better defending T-Mac, but not as potent offensively.

With Dr. J and Steph on the fold, I think it's best to just take a Houston T-Mac. There's plenty of offense around that team.
Houston TMac was riddled with injuries though, wouldn't that be problematic during voting? Not opposed to letting him play SF or play SG off the bench btw.

Well, there's that.

I did look it up. 04-05 he played 78 games. And 06-07 he played 71. I think that's plenty enough.
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McGrady is a small forward. through and through.

I think he’s one of the rare players who was truly interchangeable, but I think he created more mismatches at SG.
His best offensive season was clearly 02-03 when he was a SG in Orlando.  His best season in Houston, though, he was a SF in 04-05. The problem with him at SG though is he was a very bad defender.  He was a much better defender at SF.  I'd have no issue using him at SG in this, but Curry/Nash are bad defenders and Dr. J isn't exactly a great one so that is the only downside with him as the starting SG.  I mean that team is worse defensively then my team from the 3 small positions (very strong defenders at 4/5 though which does help).

You beat me to it. This will be the conundrum.

Pick his Orlando season and you have a bad defender, but quite possibly one of the best pure scorers in the game. Pick any of his Houston seasons and you'd get a better defending T-Mac, but not as potent offensively.

With Dr. J and Steph on the fold, I think it's best to just take a Houston T-Mac. There's plenty of offense around that team.
Houston TMac was riddled with injuries though, wouldn't that be problematic during voting? Not opposed to letting him play SF or play SG off the bench btw.

Well, there's that.

I did look it up. 04-05 he played 78 games. And 06-07 he played 71. I think that's plenty enough.
Interesting. Well there's plenty of time for me to see which season do I pick at least lol.
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Guys like T-Mac are tough ones. Clearly a very good defensive player when he is engaged but he was rarely engaged during his best years because he had to carry so much offensively for his teams.

How does he change on a team with more offense around him? Do you get that extra defense? Or do you still dock him on defense because the year you selected he only gave half-effort?

I had T-Mac in the past and I gave him the benefit of the doubt as I did with a few other players. In hindsight, I think I ended up over-rating my team too much in the process .

Anyone, I don't know what you do with someone like that. That is one of the benefits of guys from winning teams. There is less ambiguity about what you get from then in a situation where the load is shared. You know what they bring and everyone else knows what they bring.

Without that you get people who will believe in T-Mac's (for example) defense improving and ones who don't.

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I just wanna add that I thought TMac should have been a point guard on offense when he played. He was a great ball handler. Just to confuse things a little more.
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ROUND 7 IS NOW OPEN.

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Yeah!!!!

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Opened round and forgot I had gouki's picks. The crap that happens when you are sick.

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Opened round and forgot I had gouki's picks. The crap that happens when you are sick.
I hope it's not too serious :(. Wish you a speedy recovery!
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With the 1st pick in Round 7 of the 2019 Historical Draft the Philadelphia 76ers select:



Sidney Moncrief

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With the 1st pick in Round 7 of the 2019 Historical Draft the Philadelphia 76ers select:



Sidney Moncrief

Probably the most underrated player in the history of the game.
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C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

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Shoot, I was hoping he would fall to me
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Opened round and forgot I had gouki's picks. The crap that happens when you are sick.
I hope it's not too serious :(. Wish you a speedy recovery!
I think it's a sinus infection, no biggie. Just feel like hell. Will be going to doctors later today to get some antibiotics.

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I debated Moncrief a number of times. solid player. great defense, not the greatest shooter, but really solid round 7 value

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I weighed heavily between Moncrief and Dumars, then Moncrief and Klay. Great player for this game.
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Moncrief is very strong value.  Good solid all around player, but an absolutely superb defender.  I also think he would have been a very good shooter if he was modern. 

I had him as a top 3 target for me entering the day. 
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