How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

I think the Kyrie gamble was worth the risk, it just didn't work. I know that some people question trading an injured IT for an oft-injured Kyrie, but none of Kyrie's injuries has been career-altering, and IT is a shell of his former self.

I do think Danny might've made a mistake in regards to Davis—namely, it seems that he'd been planning for Davis for years, but never took into consideration (until it was too late) whether Davis wanted to be in Boston, and/or how badly Davis wanted to be a Laker.

I've been critical of Ainge at times, but there've been several things he was forced into making decisions on, based on events that were out of his control—IT getting hurt and Hayward getting hurt being two big examples. If IT doesn't get hurt, maybe Danny keeps him; and if Hayward doesn't get hurt, maybe a team with a healthy Hayward and IT does much better last season than what we got. Danny's certainly not perfect, but I think he's done a very good job overall. I'm trying to temper my expectations for this season—I don't want to get burned again like I did last season—but if this squad has great chemistry, has fun together, and plays like they have nothing to lose, the end result of the season might be very cool, and it might make some disgruntled superstar want to come here and be a team player and win.

[SHAQATTACK]

Not ready to eject DA ....yet ...Can't fault DA for Kawhi ,  he was hurt or acted hurt , and was stuborn to the end and mad about not.going to LA.   you can't trade a pile of people and assets for a guy who may not even be able to play or even get one good year out of him.   Raptors were desperate . It worked for both parties.   And i think it was a blessing for the league , showing that going to small market city is not so bad .

Im glade DA took a chance on Kyrie ,  i don't think that pick would have moved the needle much if at all ....so dumping IT was good idea too.  He was not jumping up and down mad about landing on the Celtics and had a decent attitude i thought , for a diva he was the first year or so.  He was extremely fun to root for and watch that first year when he was healthy , he and Al put on a good show .  I m sad they are gone.

Danny is obsessed thecguard postion too much ....way to much.....star players usually leave to play with the best BIGS ....not guards .   I think you still need to tank and build from the center position.  To have a long run , need a young big center ....a franchise one .  I trdae everything for that and build from there. 

i think Danny will do better in the future

[libermaniac]

As many as it takes. It’s not easy to win a title. All you can ask for is a competitive team with a vision for a title. After that you need luck.

[Fierce1]

As many as it takes. It’s not easy to win a title. All you can ask for is a competitive team with a vision for a title. After that you need luck.

So true.

I don't think Toronto would have won a championship if KD was healthy.

[NKY fan]

As many as it takes. It’s not easy to win a title. All you can ask for is a competitive team with a vision for a title. After that you need luck.

So true.

I don't think Toronto would have won a championship if KD was healthy.

Does Danny have a vision for the future? At times it looks like his main goal is to win trades and make 3/4 draft picks a year.
In the last 4 summers He has been able to sign 3 all stars at their peak for max contracts they may not have deserved ....

[GreenCoffeeBean]

Fire his ass right now and make KGLL and all these other thread starters GM.

[Fierce1]

As many as it takes. It’s not easy to win a title. All you can ask for is a competitive team with a vision for a title. After that you need luck.

So true.

I don't think Toronto would have won a championship if KD was healthy.

Does Danny have a vision for the future? At times it looks like his main goal is to win trades and make 3/4 draft picks a year.
In the last 4 summers He has been able to sign 3 all stars at their peak for max contracts they may not have deserved ....

Only 2 All-Stars, Hayward and Horford.

Kyrie was acquired through trade.

Horford definitely didn't deserve 28m per year if we base it on his production with the Celts.

Hayward is worth the max, the problem is he got hurt in his first regular season game with the Celts.

[Big333223]

Until we find somebody demonstrably better.

This. What would be the point of firing Ainge to replace him with someone worse?

As many as it takes. It’s not easy to win a title. All you can ask for is a competitive team with a vision for a title. After that you need luck.

So true.

I don't think Toronto would have won a championship if KD was healthy.

Does Danny have a vision for the future? At times it looks like his main goal is to win trades and make 3/4 draft picks a year.
In the last 4 summers He has been able to sign 3 all stars at their peak for max contracts they may not have deserved ....

Only 2 All-Stars, Hayward and Horford.

Kyrie was acquired through trade.

Horford definitely didn't deserve 28m per year if we base it on his production with the Celts.

Hayward is worth the max, the problem is he got hurt in his first regular season game with the Celts.

Kemba.

[Fierce1]

Until we find somebody demonstrably better.

This. What would be the point of firing Ainge to replace him with someone worse?

As many as it takes. It’s not easy to win a title. All you can ask for is a competitive team with a vision for a title. After that you need luck.

So true.

I don't think Toronto would have won a championship if KD was healthy.

Does Danny have a vision for the future? At times it looks like his main goal is to win trades and make 3/4 draft picks a year.
In the last 4 summers He has been able to sign 3 all stars at their peak for max contracts they may not have deserved ....

Only 2 All-Stars, Hayward and Horford.

Kyrie was acquired through trade.

Horford definitely didn't deserve 28m per year if we base it on his production with the Celts.

Hayward is worth the max, the problem is he got hurt in his first regular season game with the Celts.

Kemba.

We haven't seen Kemba in action with the Celts.
That's why it's too early to say Kemba doesn't deserve what he got from the Celts.

[Fafnir]

If he messes up with Jaylen/Tatum and goes full rebuild after moving on from them I could see the team deciding to move on. But I think he'd need to make Joe Dumars level mistakes with the cap sheet and rebuild process to get fired.

[Birdman]

His plan of Davis/Kyrie blew up in his face..very lucky to nab Walker or we probably be 8th seed

[Moranis]

His plan of Davis/Kyrie blew up in his face..very lucky to nab Walker or we probably be 8th seed

Might be the 8th seed anyway.  I don't think that is all that likely, but it is possible.

[slamtheking]

always seems that those calling for Danny's head are usually the ones posting loads of trade proposals  to either get their binky or unload a player they don't like OR are hyper-critical of a trade/FA signing they don't personally like.

Danny's one of the better GMs in the league, both with drafting and with trades.  Unless someone's got a suggestion for someone specific to replace him as GM that has a proven track record better than Danny's and is available, this is just a lot of hot air venting. 

[Donoghus]

always seems that those calling for Danny's head are usually the ones posting loads of trade proposals  to either get their binky or unload a player they don't like OR are hyper-critical of a trade/FA signing they don't personally like.

Danny's one of the better GMs in the league, both with drafting and with trades.  Unless someone's got a suggestion for someone specific to replace him as GM that has a proven track record better than Danny's and is available, this is just a lot of hot air venting.

There's plenty of armchair GMs on here who probably think they'd have a better track record than Danny.   

He's not perfect by any means but he has gotten this team through multiple rebuilds.  Let's see what this new incarnation post-Kyrie does before kicking him to the curb.

[Walker Wiggle]

A great deal of which teams succeed and fail in this league comes down to luck.

LAL did pretty much everything wrong. Literally weeks ago there were multiple stories attesting to how poorly that franchise is being run. Still, Lebron and AD want to live in LA so -- poof -- instant title contender.

TOR flamed out embarrassingly in the playoffs year after year. They gave up one of their two stars for Kawhi, who'd played only a handful of games the year earlier because of a mysterious quad injury. What do you know? Kawhi turns out to be fully healthy, and they win the title, thanks in part to one of the most amazing rim bounces in conference finals history, plus devastating injuries to two of the Warriors' mega stars. Convenient!

The Celtics land Kyrie Irving, one of the best players in the league. At the time, the organization is stocked with future assets and young players, plus additional two veteran all-stars. Then Hayward shatters his leg, AD says he doesn't want to come to Boston, and it turns out Kyrie is an emo teenager who wants to live closer to New Jersey.

In summary: This isn't all about one man's decisionmaking. There are 29 other teams, and all of them are rolling the dice year after year.