Is DA pressured into pursuit Kemba Walker

[playdream]

Best case is to get off Rozier+Brown(for value) and Re-sign Kyrie
But it seemed some Celtic fans wants Kyrie gone and is pushing him away, so if he leave Kemba will be a nice replacement

[tazzmaniac]

It is a dumb move. They will be worse defensively and get beat on the boards nightly. Using the exception on a mediocre center won’t make up for the loss of AH.

Just because you have a max slot doesn’t mean you should use it on an undersized guard.

You could overpay a above average big and still struggle on offense as well. I've always been under the thought that you only pay big money to the guys that can win you games when it matters most. Kemba is one of those guys, bigs like Vucevic are not. The C's have two glaring holes and unless you are ok with taking a huge step backwards there is no downside to this move. It's a pivot for a guy that will be a huge fan favorite.

When has Kemba shown that he can win games when it matters most?  He hasn't been in the playoffs the last 3 seasons and the two previous seasons they got bounced in the 1st round.  Sometimes taking a step back is the right move.  Signing a player to a huge contract can most definitely have a huge downside for years.   

[CelticSooner]

It is a dumb move. They will be worse defensively and get beat on the boards nightly. Using the exception on a mediocre center won’t make up for the loss of AH.

Just because you have a max slot doesn’t mean you should use it on an undersized guard.

You could overpay a above average big and still struggle on offense as well. I've always been under the thought that you only pay big money to the guys that can win you games when it matters most. Kemba is one of those guys, bigs like Vucevic are not. The C's have two glaring holes and unless you are ok with taking a huge step backwards there is no downside to this move. It's a pivot for a guy that will be a huge fan favorite.

When has Kemba shown that he can win games when it matters most?  He hasn't been in the playoffs the last 3 seasons and the two previous seasons they got bounced in the 1st round.  Sometimes taking a step back is the right move.  Signing a player to a huge contract can most definitely have a huge downside for years.   

I've seen Kemba destroy teams plenty for the Hornets by himself. Everything that is being said about Kemba was being said about IT before he was traded to Boston. The only difference being the salary. Kemba was the best player on a franchise that has never shown it cares about winning. That would not be a problem with him in Boston, dude is a winner. There are different ways to build a team and it's not like the C's don't have any assets to continue to get better. I don't see a Kemba max deal being an albatross by any means.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJIzxQ7de8M

[Scottiej23]

It is a dumb move. They will be worse defensively and get beat on the boards nightly. Using the exception on a mediocre center won’t make up for the loss of AH.

Just because you have a max slot doesn’t mean you should use it on an undersized guard.

You could overpay a above average big and still struggle on offense as well. I've always been under the thought that you only pay big money to the guys that can win you games when it matters most. Kemba is one of those guys, bigs like Vucevic are not. The C's have two glaring holes and unless you are ok with taking a huge step backwards there is no downside to this move. It's a pivot for a guy that will be a huge fan favorite.

When has Kemba shown that he can win games when it matters most?  He hasn't been in the playoffs the last 3 seasons and the two previous seasons they got bounced in the 1st round.  Sometimes taking a step back is the right move.  Signing a player to a huge contract can most definitely have a huge downside for years.   

Who's been his next best team mate? Jeremy Lamb? A brittle and disinterested Dwight Howard? Batum? You can't do it alone in the NBA.

[ozgod]

I struggle to understand why Kemba Walker, he’s a similar player to Kyrie, but older, worse, and not finals proven. How does he fit with Hayward, and the Js, wouldn’t he take away their shots too. Is Angie trying to make up losing out on AD and AL, Kyrie?

I don't think DA has ever been pressured into doing anything. He decides what he wants to do. Or more likely what he doesn't want to do.

[mctyson]

I struggle to understand why Kemba Walker, he’s a similar player to Kyrie, but older, worse, and not finals proven. How does he fit with Hayward, and the Js, wouldn’t he take away their shots too. Is Angie trying to make up losing out on AD and AL, Kyrie?

LOL.

As many years in the NBA as Kyrie.

Last year, his best year.

Kyrie got trampled in 2nd round in only playoff for the Celtics.

Kemba carried UConn to a championship.

So...LOL.

[Fierce1]

I think Smart or Brown will be traded for a big man.

Just doesn't make sense for the Celts to keep all 4, Tatum, Brown, Smart, and Hayward.
One of them has to go to free up more minutes and shot attempts.

[Erik]

Yeah awful lot of pressure to give a top 20 player (top 5 pg) in a 30 team league a max contract. Oh, and he’ll be under contract from ages 29 through 33, which is veteran prime. Oh, and we do not have a point guard.. Oh, and the 2020 free agency class is pitiful, so the cap rollover would be wasted after we extend Tatum and Brown.

Tough choice... 

Oh, and we can stop comparing him to IT? He’s 4 inches taller. That’s like saying Kemba and Harden are about the same height. Or Jaylen Brown and Dwight Howard are about the same height.

[Phantom255x]

Idk, but this did seem to come out of nowhere completely, like almost everything that's happened to us this offseason 

I think DA views Kemba as a perfect fit on this team, and he is still an All-Star caliber player, a Top-25 talent in the league + probably Top 6-7 PG in the whole league. He definitely has more accolades than guys like say, Vucevic. He probably thinks Kemba offers the highest potential of all realistically available targets, as a guy who can legitimately impact games and winning as well.

Not at all saying Vucevic is a scrub btw, but he would command like near-max himself and while he would fit a glaring need, the truth is I don't view him as a guy who can have a major impact in the games that count (including playoffs). That's just my opinion.

[Sketch5]

Yeah awful lot of pressure to give a top 20 player (top 5 pg) in a 30 team league a max contract. Oh, and he’ll be under contract from ages 29 through 33, which is veteran prime. Oh, and we do not have a point guard.. Oh, and the 2020 free agency class is pitiful, so the cap rollover would be wasted after we extend Tatum and Brown.

Tough choice... 

Oh, and we can stop comparing him to IT? He’s 4 inches taller. That’s like saying Kemba and Harden are about the same height. Or Jaylen Brown and Dwight Howard are about the same height.

With the hair it's pretty close.

[Roy H.]

It is a dumb move. They will be worse defensively and get beat on the boards nightly. Using the exception on a mediocre center won’t make up for the loss of AH.

Just because you have a max slot doesn’t mean you should use it on an undersized guard.

You could overpay a above average big and still struggle on offense as well. I've always been under the thought that you only pay big money to the guys that can win you games when it matters most. Kemba is one of those guys, bigs like Vucevic are not. The C's have two glaring holes and unless you are ok with taking a huge step backwards there is no downside to this move. It's a pivot for a guy that will be a huge fan favorite.

When has Kemba shown that he can win games when it matters most?  He hasn't been in the playoffs the last 3 seasons and the two previous seasons they got bounced in the 1st round.  Sometimes taking a step back is the right move.  Signing a player to a huge contract can most definitely have a huge downside for years.   

Who's been his next best team mate? Jeremy Lamb? A brittle and disinterested Dwight Howard? Batum? You can't do it alone in the NBA.

Big Al Jefferson.

[spikelovetheCelts]

We have assets to trade for a big and we have the MLE for a big. DA probably already has a deal in place for Cabela, WCS, Turner or Noel. It is early people. We use to say we could not get All Stars to come here we have had 3 come in the last 4 years. Kemba has people to pass the ball too. Life is good. We are at 3 in the east with a bullet. Milwaukee could get picked clean on June 30th.

[jambr380]

Yeah awful lot of pressure to give a top 20 player (top 5 pg) in a 30 team league a max contract. Oh, and he’ll be under contract from ages 29 through 33, which is veteran prime. Oh, and we do not have a point guard.. Oh, and the 2020 free agency class is pitiful, so the cap rollover would be wasted after we extend Tatum and Brown.

Tough choice... 

Oh, and we can stop comparing him to IT? He’s 4 inches taller. That’s like saying Kemba and Harden are about the same height. Or Jaylen Brown and Dwight Howard are about the same height.

Yeah, this is my take as well. This is similar to the Gordon Hayward FA frenzy. Obviously that hasn't worked out as planned, but it was our last chance at cap space and we used it to sign an All-Star wing who also happened to be a disciple of Brad's.

Kemba actually may be considered better than Hayward when we signed him or, at the very least, in the same class. I think most of us are just a bit shocked at how things have gone. No AD, Kyrie is ditching us, Al is ditching us...and then all of a sudden an All-NBA PG wants to sign here. How many people actually had this as a possibility going into the offseason?

Kyrie and Kemba are both similarly effective PGs, but Kemba will be immensely more popular than Kyrie with the moderate-intense Cs fans...along with the all-important media.

[jade88]

Yeah awful lot of pressure to give a top 20 player (top 5 pg) in a 30 team league a max contract. Oh, and he’ll be under contract from ages 29 through 33, which is veteran prime. Oh, and we do not have a point guard.. Oh, and the 2020 free agency class is pitiful, so the cap rollover would be wasted after we extend Tatum and Brown.

Tough choice... 

Oh, and we can stop comparing him to IT? He’s 4 inches taller. That’s like saying Kemba and Harden are about the same height. Or Jaylen Brown and Dwight Howard are about the same height.

Yeah, this is my take as well. This is similar to the Gordon Hayward FA frenzy. Obviously that hasn't worked out as planned, but it was our last chance at cap space and we used it to sign an All-Star wing who also happened to be a disciple of Brad's.

Kemba actually may be considered better than Hayward when we signed him or, at the very least, in the same class. I think most of us are just a bit shocked at how things have gone. No AD, Kyrie is ditching us, Al is ditching us...and then all of a sudden an All-NBA PG wants to sign here. How many people actually had this as a possibility going into the offseason?

Kyrie and Kemba are both similarly effective PGs, but Kemba will be immensely more popular than Kyrie with the moderate-intense Cs fans...along with the all-important media.

Al has not ditched us. Danny doesn't want to compete with his open market value, and it's his last big contract. He would come back in a second if we gave him a competitive offer.

Kyrie ditched us.

[cman88]

Kemba would be amazing in Brads system. Look at how IT4 and Rozier looked in his system. Even Kyrie...before he became a selfish ball hog/headcase

Not sure how much pressure there is. We have a chance to sign a 3 time all-star who averaged 25ppg last year....especially after how bad the offseason has gone so far this is a nice surprise.