Trade Idea: Bos/Phi/Hou

[CptZoogs]

So Houston wants to acquire Butler and is willing to unload Capella, Gordon, and Tucker to do it.  Philly may lose Butler for nothing and may be open to a trade.  We have a logjam with Tatum and Hayward playing the same position and a dearth of bigs.

Would the teams be interested in a 3-way deal?  Philly signs and trades Butler to Hou.  Hou sends Capella, Gordon, and Tucker to Bos.  Bos sends Hayward and picks to Philly.

I really like Hayward and am confident that he will have a bounce back year.  However, it looks like we are committing to Tatum for the long haul and I think neither he nor Hayward can play the four long-term.  This deal would allow us to commit to the youth while surrounding them with savvy vet role players.  We could also still pursue Kemba or another max player.  Hou gets Butler and avoids the hard cap.  Philly gets some draft compensation for Butler leaving and gets a free flier on Hayward (who torched them once during the season).

Thoughts?

[liam]

Great deal for Philly and Houston....

[Fierce1]

I'd rather keep Hayward and try to go after Vucevic.

If not Vucevic, Steven Adams would be a good consolation prize.

Tucker and Gordon would just be in the way of Tatum and Brown.

[CptZoogs]

Tucker can play the 4, can't he.  Gordon would be 6th man.

[Fierce1]

Tucker can play the 4, can't he.  Gordon would be 6th man.

That's the Rockets way.

But it didn't work out so well for the Rockets against GSW even when KD didn't play in Game 5 and Game 6.

Celts can do better than just settle for the garbage of the Rockets.

[liam]

The Tucker, Cappella and Gordon for Yabu and cap space trade that Silky had on The Kemba tread is much better.

[CptZoogs]

The Tucker, Cappella and Gordon for Yabu and cap space trade that Silky had on The Kemba tread is much better.

But then you lose out on max cap space.  So I guess it comes down to how interested you are in Kemba, DLo, Vuc, etc.

[liam]

The Tucker, Cappella and Gordon for Yabu and cap space trade that Silky had on The Kemba tread is much better.

But then you lose out on max cap space.  So I guess it comes down to how interested you are in Kemba, DLo, Vuc, etc.

That's the trade you do if you miss on Kemba.

[Moranis]

Trade makes far more sense with Boston just absorbing Capela into cap space and Philly getting Gordon and Tucker from the Rockets.  Some other minor pieces can be in the trade, but I think that is how it would shake out.  That is if Philly knows it is losing Butler anyway.  I actually think Gordon and Tucker are great fits there (I don't mind Capela going there either from their perspective, but I could see them rather having him go elsewhere and picking up a 2nd round pick or two in the process). 

So something like this

Houston - Butler, Bos 2nd
Philly - Gordon, Tucker, Yabu
Boston - Capela

Boston then pursues a veteran PG with the remaining 10 million or so in cap space - like say Rubio.

So post-trade

Guards - Rubio, Smart, Langford, Edwards
Wings - Hayward, Tatum, Brown, Semi
Bigs - Capela, Williams, Williams, Theis

Pretty decent mix.  Probably not a championship contender, but should be a clear playoff team with room to grow into a real contender if Tatum and Brown continue to improve and Hayward can get back to his Utah days.

[CptZoogs]

Trade makes far more sense with Boston just absorbing Capela into cap space and Philly getting Gordon and Tucker from the Rockets.  Some other minor pieces can be in the trade, but I think that is how it would shake out.  That is if Philly knows it is losing Butler anyway.  I actually think Gordon and Tucker are great fits there (I don't mind Capela going there either from their perspective, but I could see them rather having him go elsewhere and picking up a 2nd round pick or two in the process). 

So something like this

Houston - Butler, Bos 2nd
Philly - Gordon, Tucker, Yabu
Boston - Capela

Boston then pursues a veteran PG with the remaining 10 million or so in cap space - like say Rubio.

So post-trade

Guards - Rubio, Smart, Langford, Edwards
Wings - Hayward, Tatum, Brown, Semi
Bigs - Capela, Williams, Williams, Theis

Pretty decent mix.  Probably not a championship contender, but should be a clear playoff team with room to grow into a real contender if Tatum and Brown continue to improve and Hayward can get back to his Utah days.

I would be on board with this.  A guard like Rubio could really facilitate Tatum and Brown’s growth.  And we are doing something to address our need for a big.

[Geo123]

There is no way Philly does this.  All they do is help us and Houston. Why would they?  I think that Philly can just sign Harris and JJ back and they’d be better off.  They can also just sign Butler themselves. 

[gouki88]

'Nother day, 'nother Hayward trade idea

[trickybilly]

'Nother day, 'nother Hayward trade idea

Ughhh, I know. Make it stop.

This is the ONLY Hayward trade related thread topic I will give serious thought too:

Wyc fires Ainge. Hire Billy Beane. Billy Beane hires Wojnarowski who trades Hayward to Portland for McCollum. Horford likes Woj, and extends for a discount. Houston trades Capela to us for Langford, TimeLord (and Morris in Sign and Trade), and a pick. Durant signs and Tatum retires to take up professional fencing (and becomes Canadian).

[TheSundanceKid]

You don't need to send Hayward to Philly for this to work. Just absorb the Capela and Tucker contracts into cap space. Let the Rockets find somewhere else for Gordon. Send them the Milwaukee first in return, maybe a future Boston 1st too. Rockets send those picks to Philly for the right to S&T Butler.

Then you have a C rotation of Capela/R Williams and a starting PF that G Williams can learn from. In addition, I don't think it would detract from the young guys playing time either.

[makaveli]

why would Butler do this?