Poll: Capela And Randle frontcourt

[LilRip]

Honest question: is there any rumor or any “source” that has ever linked Randle to the C’s? Don’t get me wrong, the guy intrigues me. But is he even considering us/are we even considering him??

[dreamgreen]

Honest question: is there any rumor or any “source” that has ever linked Randle to the C’s? Don’t get me wrong, the guy intrigues me. But is he even considering us/are we even considering him??

Hmm I want to say at one point Danny asked for him in a trade when he was younger in LA, maybe for Rondo? But I could be wrong about this so don't put it in stone because I am a stoner!

[Silky]

this option would cost pretty much 100% of the capspace to make happen.

Bryant and Randle would be the best
Then Bryant and Young
then Bryant and green
Then Bryant and Aminu

Thomas Bryant is not the only viable big man option. I think thinking of him as the only good choice will lead to disappointment

no he isnt, but at 10 mill starting salary he is the only one.
I dont think anyone else is coming at that salary, unless we send talent out in a trade

Except I suspect you're forgetting the Arenas Provision

It would be a backloaded contrct working out to 48-50 mill over 4 years.

So full mle level year 1(lets round it to 10 mill for simplicity sake) then the max allowable raise year 2 (4.5%) then a jump of 5 mill from year 2 to year 3, then the raise year 4 (4.7%)

So using rough numbers it would look like.

10
10.5
15.5
16.25
52 mill contract (would be less than that)

Cannot see washington matching that contract and that leaves us with only 10 mill counting towards capspace this season


Most washington can offer is full mle

[footey]

The poll choices here are too limited; want neither that trade, or to say we're fine as is.

But to be clear: Trading for Capela, and signing Randle, would lock us into becoming a mediocre playoff team for the next 3-4 years, which is a bad idea.

Pass.

[Celts Fan 508]

The poll choices here are too limited; want neither that trade, or to say we're fine as is.

But to be clear: Trading for Capela, and signing Randle, would lock us into becoming a mediocre playoff team for the next 3-4 years, which is a bad idea.

Pass.

I think Randle will become an All-Star, a core of Brown, Tatum, Randle, Smart could deliver us a championship. If the Memphis pick works out as hoped the Celtics could be scary. 

Sign Randle, a defensive center, a veteran point guard who can pass and defend and I’ll be a happy man. 

 I want no part of Capela. 

[Pvictor11]

The poll choices here are too limited; want neither that trade, or to say we're fine as is.

But to be clear: Trading for Capela, and signing Randle, would lock us into becoming a mediocre playoff team for the next 3-4 years, which is a bad idea.

Pass.

I think Randle will become an All-Star, a core of Brown, Tatum, Randle, Smart could deliver us a championship. If the Memphis pick works out as hoped the Celtics could be scary. 

Sign Randle, a defensive center, a veteran point guard who can pass and defend and I’ll be a happy man. 

 I want no part of Capela.

You don't want Capela; but want Randle and a defensive center, which is the only thing Capela is. I don't get it.
Randle and Capela or Randle and any defensive center represents the same problem for us: lack of spacing on offense.
If the goal is to build around athletic wings like Jayson and Jaylen, you need to find players that can be a threat off ball (to open drive lanes) and don't need a lot of touches to get his numbers.
I would rather have Dedmon and play Hayward as a point forward PF than have Randle and Capela packing the paint and Hayward coming off the bench.

[Roy H.]

No -- not enough shooting. Both guys spend too much time close to the basket. Paint too congested.

They won't work well together.

Agreed. Passing would also be a problem.

[Celts Fan 508]

The poll choices here are too limited; want neither that trade, or to say we're fine as is.

But to be clear: Trading for Capela, and signing Randle, would lock us into becoming a mediocre playoff team for the next 3-4 years, which is a bad idea.

Pass.

I think Randle will become an All-Star, a core of Brown, Tatum, Randle, Smart could deliver us a championship. If the Memphis pick works out as hoped the Celtics could be scary. 

Sign Randle, a defensive center, a veteran point guard who can pass and defend and I’ll be a happy man. 

 I want no part of Capela.

You don't want Capela; but want Randle and a defensive center, which is the only thing Capela is. I don't get it.
Randle and Capela or Randle and any defensive center represents the same problem for us: lack of spacing on offense.
If the goal is to build around athletic wings like Jayson and Jaylen, you need to find players that can be a threat off ball (to open drive lanes) and don't need a lot of touches to get his numbers.
I would rather have Dedmon and play Hayward as a point forward PF than have Randle and Capela packing the paint and Hayward coming off the bench.

The acquisition cost of Capela when we can sign a defensive center for cheap is what scares me.  I’d want a defensive center to play 12-15 minutes a night and start in certain matchups.  I’d be fine with Randle playing center in most situations which alleviates the need for another shooter next to him.   

[konkmv]

Wcs and randle... first we must see what brown and tatum can do

[Vermont Green]

Wcs and randle... first we must see what brown and tatum can do

There are several possible combinations but I like this one.  Any expectation has to consider the realities of our available salary cap which I think this one does.  I prefer signing players over trading (say for Capela).

Randle has improved a lot.  Randle can give us something between what Morris did and what Horford did.  Randle is not Horford, at least not yet, but I feel he is on that track.  Randle would be smart to model his game after Horford.  WCS is more in the mold of Baynes but better.  More of a banger with limited scoring.

So if Randle can be Horford-like, and WCS can be Baynes-plus, we should be in pretty good shape.  Not a bad way to spend our cap space in my opinion (if it works out that way).  So then we could debate what is better, Horford+Baynes or Randle+WSC.  I actually think we might come out slightly ahead in the long run.

PG     Smart
Wing  Brown
Wing  Tatum
Big     Randle
Big     Cauley-Stein

Rozier      (PG)
Hayward  (Wing)
Ojeleye    (Swing
Williams   (Big)

[liam]

Randle is a stat chaser that dosen't play defense. How about one of the Lopez Bros?

[gouki88]

Two bigs who can’t shoot, and one who can’t really pass either? Pass

 Okay great. Everyone has weakness, but are you suggesting that our team without these two players are worse than our current team?

 What is your plan to improve the big situation. Because this plan upgrades our current situation.


 Randle plays bully ball, he scored in a different way than anyone on our team. That will help. Randle is taking almost 3 threes a game now and shooting at a nice percentage.

 20 points 9 boards a night helps.

 Capela protects the rim is very efficient on offense with putbacks and lobs.

 16 ppg and 13 rpg. I realize they probably won't both get their avg here, but in what universe does 36 ppg and 22 rpg not help our pathetic front line.

I wasn't saying it wouldn't help. I just don't think these two can coexist very well. I'd rather get a big man who can shoot and defend (like Myles Turner) alongside the interior scoring and rebounding of Randle.

[vjcsmoke]

I like capela but how much will he cost?

[Muzzy66]

Two bigs who can’t shoot, and one who can’t really pass either? Pass

 Okay great. Everyone has weakness, but are you suggesting that our team without these two players are worse than our current team?

 What is your plan to improve the big situation. Because this plan upgrades our current situation.


 Randle plays bully ball, he scored in a different way than anyone on our team. That will help. Randle is taking almost 3 threes a game now and shooting at a nice percentage.

 20 points 9 boards a night helps.

 Capela protects the rim is very efficient on offense with putbacks and lobs.

 16 ppg and 13 rpg. I realize they probably won't both get their avg here, but in what universe does 36 ppg and 22 rpg not help our pathetic front line.

I wasn't saying it wouldn't help. I just don't think these two can coexist very well. I'd rather get a big man who can shoot and defend (like Myles Turner) alongside the interior scoring and rebounding of Randle.

I think everybody would like a big man who can shoot and defend, like Miles Turner - unfortunately big man who can do both are typically highly valued in today's NBA and often aren't readily available (and don't come cheap).

[gouki88]

Two bigs who can’t shoot, and one who can’t really pass either? Pass

 Okay great. Everyone has weakness, but are you suggesting that our team without these two players are worse than our current team?

 What is your plan to improve the big situation. Because this plan upgrades our current situation.


 Randle plays bully ball, he scored in a different way than anyone on our team. That will help. Randle is taking almost 3 threes a game now and shooting at a nice percentage.

 20 points 9 boards a night helps.

 Capela protects the rim is very efficient on offense with putbacks and lobs.

 16 ppg and 13 rpg. I realize they probably won't both get their avg here, but in what universe does 36 ppg and 22 rpg not help our pathetic front line.

I wasn't saying it wouldn't help. I just don't think these two can coexist very well. I'd rather get a big man who can shoot and defend (like Myles Turner) alongside the interior scoring and rebounding of Randle.

I think everybody would like a big man who can shoot and defend, like Miles Turner - unfortunately big man who can do both are typically highly valued in today's NBA and often aren't readily available (and don't come cheap).

Yeah, but he probably wouldn't cost much more than Capela