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How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« on: June 21, 2019, 03:32:31 PM »

Offline jade88

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I don't believe that Irving is just abandoning ship, not without at least giving Ainge an ultimatum. Do we really believe that under no circumstances  would he ever opt to resign here?

I feel like the wrong core is leaving town. If Danny was willing to move Jaylen and picks for a good veteran, and maybe even remain flexible on the coach moving forward, Kyrie would come back. Rozier and Brown out, and all is well. What are we doing moving forward the guys who p---ed off an All NBA 2nd team guy?

Hell I think Brad is expendable if him and Kyrie don't fit together. It's not like Brad is the only high level coach we can obtain. Maybe there is a veteran coach out there that Kyrie would have liked to play for, unsigned coach of course.

I'm just not buying that Danny exhausted the options in keeping Kyrie happy. The guy is not only a great player, but is friends with a lot of the other All NBA players. Alienating might be a mistake on multiple levels. Building through the draft is a crapshoot.


Anyone else feel like the Boston Celtics are turning into a college program and not a franchise chasing a banner? Losing superstars to keep coaches and " high character" young guys is not how it's done. The Lakers might win a title in the near future, and that team is littered with ****s. They would do anything to win over there. Can we say the same?

Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2019, 03:36:21 PM »

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Kyrie wasn't happy living in Boston? I wonder when he decided that he was unhappy. If it were prior to the trade deadline he is a complete jerk:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/254371/Kyrie-Irving-Didnt-Like-Living-In-Boston

Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2019, 03:38:39 PM »

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If Danny was willing to move Jaylen and picks for a good veteran, and maybe even remain flexible on the coach moving forward, Kyrie would come back. Rozier and Brown out, and all is well. What are we doing moving forward the guys who p---ed off an All NBA 2nd team guy?

Hell I think Brad is expendable if him and Kyrie don't fit together. It's not like Brad is the only high level coach we can obtain. ?

How do you know Kyrie would come back?  How do you know that if Ainge moved Rozier / Brown that all would be well?
How do you know what even happened between Kyrie / Brown / Rozier?

All of this post is just complete pie in the sky speculation.  You don't think DA would have sent Rozier / Brown out in a trade if that was the only thing wrong with Kyrie staying here?  Man you haven't been paying attention for the last 15 years.

Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2019, 03:39:27 PM »

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To the edge of the Earth.  Hahahahaha
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Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2019, 03:41:27 PM »

Offline gpap

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I'd much rather build around Kyrie then build around guys who think they're better than they really are like Rozier and Brown.

Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2019, 03:43:40 PM »

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I'm thinking that a combination of Brown, Smart and picks would be enough to get Beal. The problem is I find it hard to believe that it's only Brown & Rozier as the problems. If that was all that was the problem, the trade would have already happened. I don't think that he likes Stevens. I also think that Kyrie just wants to play in Brooklyn.


Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2019, 03:48:55 PM »

Offline Fafnir

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I think Danny would go pretty far to retain Kyrie, I don't think Kyrie has much interest.

Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2019, 03:49:08 PM »

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To the edge of the Earth.  Hahahahaha

Low hanging fruit but still chuckled. TP.

Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2019, 03:49:43 PM »

Offline Phantom255x

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Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

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"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.
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Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2019, 03:50:53 PM »

Offline ETNCeltics

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This is nonsense. Regardless of your impression of Brad, you don't let a player dictate to you who your coach is going to be.

Brad was successful in college, and successful here until last season. I'll take his track record over almost anybody we can find.

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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2019, 03:57:14 PM »

Offline slamtheking

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Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

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"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.
seemed to be the overall impression he gave off by the end of the season. 

Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2019, 04:01:58 PM »

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Good riddance.

Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2019, 04:03:42 PM »

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I don't believe that Irving is just abandoning ship, not without at least giving Ainge an ultimatum. Do we really believe that under no circumstances  would he ever opt to resign here?

I feel like the wrong core is leaving town. If Danny was willing to move Jaylen and picks for a good veteran, and maybe even remain flexible on the coach moving forward, Kyrie would come back. Rozier and Brown out, and all is well. What are we doing moving forward the guys who p---ed off an All NBA 2nd team guy?

Hell I think Brad is expendable if him and Kyrie don't fit together. It's not like Brad is the only high level coach we can obtain. Maybe there is a veteran coach out there that Kyrie would have liked to play for, unsigned coach of course.

I'm just not buying that Danny exhausted the options in keeping Kyrie happy. The guy is not only a great player, but is friends with a lot of the other All NBA players. Alienating might be a mistake on multiple levels. Building through the draft is a crapshoot.


Anyone else feel like the Boston Celtics are turning into a college program and not a franchise chasing a banner? Losing superstars to keep coaches and " high character" young guys is not how it's done. The Lakers might win a title in the near future, and that team is littered with ****s. They would do anything to win over there. Can we say the same?

Do you really think you can just sweep away one set of people and that will be it? There will be another coach. There will be other teammates.

There is a difference between someone who is a bit difficult, and someone who is dysfunctional.  I'm pretty sure Kyrie is the latter.

Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2019, 04:08:52 PM »

Offline blink

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Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

Quote
"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.

haha...well there goes the end of this thread.

Brad and Danny aren't going away, at least for a while.  If Kyrie has issues with Brad, issues with Danny, issues with Jalen, issues with Rozier, issues with Jackie Mac, then maybe, just MAYBE it was more on him.

Re: How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2019, 04:10:13 PM »

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I don't believe that Irving is just abandoning ship, not without at least giving Ainge an ultimatum. Do we really believe that under no circumstances  would he ever opt to resign here?

I feel like the wrong core is leaving town. If Danny was willing to move Jaylen and picks for a good veteran, and maybe even remain flexible on the coach moving forward, Kyrie would come back. Rozier and Brown out, and all is well. What are we doing moving forward the guys who p---ed off an All NBA 2nd team guy?

Hell I think Brad is expendable if him and Kyrie don't fit together. It's not like Brad is the only high level coach we can obtain. Maybe there is a veteran coach out there that Kyrie would have liked to play for, unsigned coach of course.

I'm just not buying that Danny exhausted the options in keeping Kyrie happy. The guy is not only a great player, but is friends with a lot of the other All NBA players. Alienating might be a mistake on multiple levels. Building through the draft is a crapshoot.


Anyone else feel like the Boston Celtics are turning into a college program and not a franchise chasing a banner? Losing superstars to keep coaches and " high character" young guys is not how it's done. The Lakers might win a title in the near future, and that team is littered with ****s. They would do anything to win over there. Can we say the same?

Do you really think you can just sweep away one set of people and that will be it? There will be another coach. There will be other teammates.

There is a difference between someone who is a bit difficult, and someone who is dysfunctional.  I'm pretty sure Kyrie is the latter.

So true Kyrie will always find something to be upset about. He'll be someone else's problem now thankfully.