How far is/was Danny willing to go to appease Irving?

[Emmette Bryant]

I don't think it's possible to make him happy so it's just time to cut our losses.

[Bobshot]

I don't know if it was a question of "appeasing" Irving.

Major decisions like trading for Davis usually boil down to money. If Ainge trades for Davis, then most likely Irving and Horford re-sign in Boston. Ainge has had to give up most of his cheaper resources in the deal. So you're left with Horford, Irving, Davis and Hayward. All with multi year contracts except  Davis, who is up for contract the following season. Granted Davis might have left, but  Danny is in a  tough situation where he may be over the cap. And I doubt the owners want to go over the cap.

So maybe it boils down to money. Ainge simply couldn't afford all those guys, especially with Hayward's contract tossed in.

If so, maybe he had to punt. He decided to let Irving and Horford go, stick with the cheaper young talent as core. And build around them. He is now in a pretty good cap position to sign a Vucevic or Cousins, if he can get them.  Maybe Horford will come back. Who knows? He needs some size up front, though Horford's age is prohibitive for four years. Doubt he'll get that anywhere. Irving is replaceable.

The media is wrapped up in drama, and doesn't mention money. But GMs make decisions based on money more often than not.

[playdream]

Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.

haha...well there goes the end of this thread.

Brad and Danny aren't going away, at least for a while.  If Kyrie has issues with Brad, issues with Danny, issues with Jalen, issues with Rozier, issues with Jackie Mac, then maybe, just MAYBE it was more on him.

Well Brown and Rozier had problems with alot of their teammates and the Coach, at least Kyrie don't get barked or pushed by his teammates on the court

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Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.

haha...well there goes the end of this thread.

Brad and Danny aren't going away, at least for a while.  If Kyrie has issues with Brad, issues with Danny, issues with Jalen, issues with Rozier, issues with Jackie Mac, then maybe, just MAYBE it was more on him.

Well Brown and Rozier had problems with alot of their teammates and the Coach, at least Kyrie don't get barked or pushed by his teammates on the court

and so WHAT?  younger players get yelled at by veterans, it happens all the time.  that hardly proves that Kyrie wasn't the main problem.

good luck kyrie, I am glad we are all moving on from this crap-show.

[saltlover]

Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.

haha...well there goes the end of this thread.

Brad and Danny aren't going away, at least for a while.  If Kyrie has issues with Brad, issues with Danny, issues with Jalen, issues with Rozier, issues with Jackie Mac, then maybe, just MAYBE it was more on him.

Well Brown and Rozier had problems with alot of their teammates and the Coach, at least Kyrie don't get barked or pushed by his teammates on the court

What would have been the point of yelling at Kyrie? It’s not like he’d have listened.  I mean this seriously — no player is perfect.  They all make mistakes, have the wrong amount of effort at time, etc.  Kyrie undoubtedly made his fair share, but you never saw his teammates call him out, because it would have been wasted breath.

[playdream]

Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.

haha...well there goes the end of this thread.

Brad and Danny aren't going away, at least for a while.  If Kyrie has issues with Brad, issues with Danny, issues with Jalen, issues with Rozier, issues with Jackie Mac, then maybe, just MAYBE it was more on him.

Well Brown and Rozier had problems with alot of their teammates and the Coach, at least Kyrie don't get barked or pushed by his teammates on the court

What would have been the point of yelling at Kyrie? It’s not like he’d have listened.  I mean this seriously — no player is perfect.  They all make mistakes, have the wrong amount of effort at time, etc.  Kyrie undoubtedly made his fair share, but you never saw his teammates call him out, because it would have been wasted breath.

Tommy called him out and he immediately responded well
so stop the hate

[playdream]

Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.

haha...well there goes the end of this thread.

Brad and Danny aren't going away, at least for a while.  If Kyrie has issues with Brad, issues with Danny, issues with Jalen, issues with Rozier, issues with Jackie Mac, then maybe, just MAYBE it was more on him.

Well Brown and Rozier had problems with alot of their teammates and the Coach, at least Kyrie don't get barked or pushed by his teammates on the court

and so WHAT?  younger players get yelled at by veterans, it happens all the time.  that hardly proves that Kyrie wasn't the main problem.

good luck kyrie, I am glad we are all moving on from this crap-show.

Smart didn't before, Tatum didn't, TL didn't, Yabu didn't, Semi didn't, i can go on
There is a reason Brown and Rozier are the only two to have those problems

[liam]

Danny signed Tacko, what more can he do!!!

[Roy H.]

Danny could trade Jaylen, fire Stevens, and put Kyrie’s Jersey in the rafters. He’d still be a flake at heart.

[Roy H.]

Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.

haha...well there goes the end of this thread.

Brad and Danny aren't going away, at least for a while.  If Kyrie has issues with Brad, issues with Danny, issues with Jalen, issues with Rozier, issues with Jackie Mac, then maybe, just MAYBE it was more on him.

Well Brown and Rozier had problems with alot of their teammates and the Coach, at least Kyrie don't get barked or pushed by his teammates on the court

and so WHAT?  younger players get yelled at by veterans, it happens all the time.  that hardly proves that Kyrie wasn't the main problem.

good luck kyrie, I am glad we are all moving on from this crap-show.

Smart didn't before, Tatum didn't, TL didn't, Yabu didn't, Semi didn't, i can go on
There is a reason Brown and Rozier are the only two to have those problems

Add Hayward to the list of players Kyrie attacked, and reports are that he had problems with Tatum.

[keevsnick]

Dany should do absolutely nothing to appease Kyrie. According to various reports kyrie hated or had problems with Dany, Brad, Reporters, The City of Boston, Jaylen, Rozier, Hayward, Horford, Tatum and geography.

Blaming Jaylen or even Rizier for having problems with someone so difficult is a reach. The only public clash between the two was Jaylen saying they had to work better as a team, and not call each other out. In other words, the biggest criticism of Jaylen is he called for team unity? Even if you want to say he had problems behind the scenes he was one if the few guys who actually put it past him and got better this season. I dont care that Smart or Morris yelled at him, he has work to do on his game and always seemed to take it well. Ainge and Brad has both went out of their way to praise his work ethic and attitude.

Bottom line is this. If kyrie was better you'd put up with his toxic nature, Lebron is worth it, kyrie is not. Before the start of the offseason I would have argued you need to retain him for asset reasons but as someone who just wants to enjoy watching the teaming I hope he is gone. 

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Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.

haha...well there goes the end of this thread.

Brad and Danny aren't going away, at least for a while.  If Kyrie has issues with Brad, issues with Danny, issues with Jalen, issues with Rozier, issues with Jackie Mac, then maybe, just MAYBE it was more on him.

Well Brown and Rozier had problems with alot of their teammates and the Coach, at least Kyrie don't get barked or pushed by his teammates on the court

and so WHAT?  younger players get yelled at by veterans, it happens all the time.  that hardly proves that Kyrie wasn't the main problem.

good luck kyrie, I am glad we are all moving on from this crap-show.

Smart didn't before, Tatum didn't, TL didn't, Yabu didn't, Semi didn't, i can go on
There is a reason Brown and Rozier are the only two to have those problems

How do you know all this?  Did you talk to Kyrie many times during the season?  Did you talk to Brad and Danny?
The answers are - no you don't, no you didn't, and no you didn't.

None of us knows exactly what went down.  But you trying to absolve Kyrie of any fault in all of this is just silly.  If it was just Brown and Rozier that were complete malcontents DA would have traded them both already.  Like months ago.  There reports he had issues with Tatum and Hayward too.  I don't know who TL is, but Yabu and Semi are too inexperienced to push back against Kyrie either way.  None of that supports your arguement.

Cmon man, let it go.  Kyrie was part of the problem.

[chiken]

No way do you do all this For a Kyrie Irving...  He isn't James, Curry, Leonard or Durant...

And how many ways does he have to let folks know that he has no interest in being here... He never wanted to be here... He wanted out from Cleveland and was sent here... He did what needed to do while under Contract... Now he is free... Let dude go.

If he would have acted this way last year Danny would have shipped him out... So he chilled...  Now he can show his true heart...

[playdream]

Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.

haha...well there goes the end of this thread.

Brad and Danny aren't going away, at least for a while.  If Kyrie has issues with Brad, issues with Danny, issues with Jalen, issues with Rozier, issues with Jackie Mac, then maybe, just MAYBE it was more on him.

Well Brown and Rozier had problems with alot of their teammates and the Coach, at least Kyrie don't get barked or pushed by his teammates on the court

and so WHAT?  younger players get yelled at by veterans, it happens all the time.  that hardly proves that Kyrie wasn't the main problem.

good luck kyrie, I am glad we are all moving on from this crap-show.

Smart didn't before, Tatum didn't, TL didn't, Yabu didn't, Semi didn't, i can go on
There is a reason Brown and Rozier are the only two to have those problems

How do you know all this?  Did you talk to Kyrie many times during the season?  Did you talk to Brad and Danny?
The answers are - no you don't, no you didn't, and no you didn't.

None of us knows exactly what went down.  But you trying to absolve Kyrie of any fault in all of this is just silly.  If it was just Brown and Rozier that were complete malcontents DA would have traded them both already.  Like months ago.  There reports he had issues with Tatum and Hayward too.  I don't know who TL is, but Yabu and Semi are too inexperienced to push back against Kyrie either way.  None of that supports your arguement.

Cmon man, let it go.  Kyrie was part of the problem.

I didn't say Kyrie wasn't part of the problem anyway, i said at least he didn't get barked and pushed on the court by his own teammates, to your "Kyrie is the main problem" argument

If you want to pull the "none of us really know"card ,then fine, but then you are depleting your own argument
 

[playdream]

Jackie Mac just said this and it's posted on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter too now.

"Kyrie Irving didn't like Boston. I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad . By the end he had issues with Danny. By the end he had issues with pretty much all of us."

The last part is what kind of surprises me, considering it was known Jackie Mac and Kyrie had a good reporter-player relationship. Kyrie is just a weird dude and extremely bi-polar it seems.

haha...well there goes the end of this thread.

Brad and Danny aren't going away, at least for a while.  If Kyrie has issues with Brad, issues with Danny, issues with Jalen, issues with Rozier, issues with Jackie Mac, then maybe, just MAYBE it was more on him.

Well Brown and Rozier had problems with alot of their teammates and the Coach, at least Kyrie don't get barked or pushed by his teammates on the court

and so WHAT?  younger players get yelled at by veterans, it happens all the time.  that hardly proves that Kyrie wasn't the main problem.

good luck kyrie, I am glad we are all moving on from this crap-show.

Smart didn't before, Tatum didn't, TL didn't, Yabu didn't, Semi didn't, i can go on
There is a reason Brown and Rozier are the only two to have those problems

Add Hayward to the list of players Kyrie attacked, and reports are that he had problems with Tatum.

Reports huh? there also are reports they are best friends and have a very good relationship