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Who would you want us to go after? (random order)

Boogie Cousins
14 (18.7%)
Nikola Vucevic
13 (17.3%)
Brook Lopez
2 (2.7%)
Willie Cauley-Stein
3 (4%)
DeAndre Jordan
0 (0%)
Thomas Bryant
7 (9.3%)
Clint Capela
11 (14.7%)
Steven Adams
17 (22.7%)
Enes Kanter
1 (1.3%)
Dewayne Dedmon
4 (5.3%)
other (please name below)
3 (4%)

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Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2019, 12:09:40 PM »

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Boogie Cousins. I would've said Vucevic but I read where he wants to stay in Orlando and could get a massive 5 year max deal.

We'll need a guy like Boogie to throw some forearms around when we play the Lakers and whatever team Kyrie ends up on.

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2019, 12:15:27 PM »

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My pick is Cousins. I am hoping for a 1+1, not a long term deal. It's low risk if just a two year deal but it may need to be $20 or $25 million to get it done.

Vucevic is probably getting the max from the Magic. Magic won't risk taking a step back.

Don't think Adams is going anywhere.

Bryant probably gets the rfa treatment with Wizards matching any offer he gets. Wizards have Beal, Rui, and Bryant to sell tickets. Then mid season a mature and humble Wall returning will probably get them back in the playoffs.

Turner is interesting but think it will take Marcus Smart and a first to get him.

I read on the blog that there is some loophole in Bryant’s RFA status.
Something about the amount they can offer being capped at a bit under $10m.
No idea if it’s true but if so, offering somewhere north of that cap may get him into green.

Would be a great pickup who fills a few needs and fits the timeline.
I believe they are limited to 9.38 million using Early Bird but can go over that if they use their cap space.

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2019, 12:47:49 PM »

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I really don't want more then two seasons of big money on a C unless he is truely a game changer.  The NBA game is no longer built that way.


Yep -- as Arnovitz likes to say on The Lowe Post, center is a mercenary position now.

Unless you're getting a superstar, it makes sense to invest at most average starter money and no more than 2 years at a time guaranteed.
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Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2019, 12:54:19 PM »

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I voted Dedmon.

Dunno, might be complaints about Bryant’s defense in a C’s uniform, but if it’s a cheap contract why not  :)

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2019, 01:00:33 PM »

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My pick is Cousins. I am hoping for a 1+1, not a long term deal. It's low risk if just a two year deal but it may need to be $20 or $25 million to get it done.

Vucevic is probably getting the max from the Magic. Magic won't risk taking a step back.

Don't think Adams is going anywhere.

Bryant probably gets the rfa treatment with Wizards matching any offer he gets. Wizards have Beal, Rui, and Bryant to sell tickets. Then mid season a mature and humble Wall returning will probably get them back in the playoffs.

Turner is interesting but think it will take Marcus Smart and a first to get him.

I read on the blog that there is some loophole in Bryant’s RFA status.
Something about the amount they can offer being capped at a bit under $10m.
No idea if it’s true but if so, offering somewhere north of that cap may get him into green.

Would be a great pickup who fills a few needs and fits the timeline.
I believe they are limited to 9.38 million using Early Bird but can go over that if they use their cap space.

Apparently there's a ''Gilbert Arenas provision'' rule that allows Washington to match offers for Bryant.

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/after-breakout-season-thomas-bryant-wants-stay-wizards-why-would-i-want-leave

The Celtics would probably have to go silly to discourage the Wizards from matching an offer, they love him down there.

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2019, 01:04:48 PM »

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Celts interested in Euro Center Vincent Poirier per Reddit and RealGM. Supposedly high energy guy who could share minutes with Williams. Also don’t need to lock into a long term deal.

Anyone got good intel on him?

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2019, 01:13:54 PM »

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Celts interested in Euro Center Vincent Poirier per Reddit and RealGM. Supposedly high energy guy who could share minutes with Williams. Also don’t need to lock into a long term deal.

Anyone got good intel on him?
played with Orlando in summer league..lead Euroleague he played at in rebounding..not a great scorer
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Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2019, 01:14:02 PM »

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My pick is Cousins. I am hoping for a 1+1, not a long term deal. It's low risk if just a two year deal but it may need to be $20 or $25 million to get it done.

Vucevic is probably getting the max from the Magic. Magic won't risk taking a step back.

Don't think Adams is going anywhere.

Bryant probably gets the rfa treatment with Wizards matching any offer he gets. Wizards have Beal, Rui, and Bryant to sell tickets. Then mid season a mature and humble Wall returning will probably get them back in the playoffs.

Turner is interesting but think it will take Marcus Smart and a first to get him.

I read on the blog that there is some loophole in Bryant’s RFA status.
Something about the amount they can offer being capped at a bit under $10m.
No idea if it’s true but if so, offering somewhere north of that cap may get him into green.

Would be a great pickup who fills a few needs and fits the timeline.
I believe they are limited to 9.38 million using Early Bird but can go over that if they use their cap space.

Apparently there's a ''Gilbert Arenas provision'' rule that allows Washington to match offers for Bryant.

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/after-breakout-season-thomas-bryant-wants-stay-wizards-why-would-i-want-leave

The Celtics would probably have to go silly to discourage the Wizards from matching an offer, they love him down there.
I am under the impression that they can't go over their own cap space that 'GAP" only gives rights to match offers above early bird extension. If I'm right (maybe I am wrong )on it it would mean they have to offer 9.38 per two years min to qualify for GAP but then to match any offer above that they need to use cap space. Can someone verify GAP allows a team to go over the cap?

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2019, 01:15:57 PM »

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I went with Capela based on age and contract over Adams. I like Adams better but I believe he has some outrageous contract?

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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2019, 01:30:26 PM »

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I went with Adams because he is very solid - literally, but actually because of the contract I guess I would prefer a Boogie on a "show me" contract.

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2019, 01:50:53 PM »

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I am pro Vucevic. It’s harder to find a skilled big man who has good low post game as well as being able to stretch the floor and rebound. He’s an average/passable defender. It’s easier to find defense only type guys and it’s a waste of money to spend that much on someone like Adams (albeit a nice player but not for the money).

Vucevic would also be a great fit for what Stevens runs on offense. Good at scoring, rebounding, and also a nice passer for a big.

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« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2019, 02:16:53 PM »

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Knowing that whoever we get won't be able to do everything Horford can, is such a gut punch. Vooch is all scoring and little else. That's lacking substance imo.


I like Boogie but he's damaged goods and can't defend.

Capela is DeAndre Jordan essentially. At the right price sure, but not for good assets.


I prefer someone cheap, who isn't a liability on either end. Ironically that was Baynes. Danny is making this summer so crappy.

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2019, 02:23:28 PM »

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I would submit that Baynes was a pretty fair liability on offense.

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2019, 02:40:54 PM »

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Derrick Favors may be UFA. Utah considering dealing last year of his contract. Experience playing with GH. More a natural center than power forward.

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2019, 03:11:51 PM »

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Given that

- we traded Baynes
- Horford is expected to walk

we are only left with one center: Robert Williams. The C's are in desperate need of a starting-caliber center. Who would you want us to go after?

Vucevic.

Your idea of Thomas Bryant is excellent as well, but Vuc has the edge when it comes to team play, facilitating, and making decisions. If Irving and Horford are both done in Boston, those things are at a premium - especially if the C’s don’t sign a starting point guard who facilitates for the whole team.

The blocks and outstanding rebounding (better than Horford, btw) are big plus’s, as are the varied offensive repertoire around the basket and the 3-pt shooting.

Theis might not “be” a center, incidentally, but he mostly “played” center.

I’d re-sign Rozier, if the price is right.
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