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Who would you want us to go after? (random order)

Boogie Cousins
14 (18.7%)
Nikola Vucevic
13 (17.3%)
Brook Lopez
2 (2.7%)
Willie Cauley-Stein
3 (4%)
DeAndre Jordan
0 (0%)
Thomas Bryant
7 (9.3%)
Clint Capela
11 (14.7%)
Steven Adams
17 (22.7%)
Enes Kanter
1 (1.3%)
Dewayne Dedmon
4 (5.3%)
other (please name below)
3 (4%)

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Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2019, 12:37:28 AM »

Offline BringToughnessBack

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On ESPN, Woj said Cs and Lakers would be interested in Vucevic if he does not really-sign in ORL.

Vucevic seems like a Stevens type of guy. Not a great defender but decent passer and very good offensive player that can stretch the floor. Not sure exactly how much he would cost though.

Vucevic and Davis...talk about towers of destruction. And then Little old Lebron...

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2019, 12:41:26 AM »

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On ESPN, Woj said Cs and Lakers would be interested in Vucevic if he does not really-sign in ORL.

Vucevic seems like a Stevens type of guy. Not a great defender but decent passer and very good offensive player that can stretch the floor. Not sure exactly how much he would cost though.

Vucevic and Davis...talk about towers of destruction. And then Little old Lebron...

I mean that's how they won their last two championships.

That Gasol/Bynum tower was just tough to stop. Add that with prime Lamar Odom before he got messed up. Dang.

And then you got the Kobe in LeBron lol. Might as well bring back Phil Jackson and run the triangle offense.


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Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2019, 01:28:19 AM »

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I'm confused - why would anybody here take Adams over Capella?

Capella put up superior numbers, is about on par defensively, has pretty much the same limitations as Adams, and his salary is $10m cheaper.  What am I missing?

Originally I wanted Capela, but seeing that Vuce is in the market, why not go for him. I feel like Vucevic is the second best big man behind Anthony Davis in our list of targets for bigs.

Oh, I agree.

I don't feel confident enough in the amount of proven offensive production that we have right now, so I'd much rather take Vucevic. 

But if (for aguments sake) Vucevic signs in Orlando or LA,  and we really need a big, then I'd lean towrds Capella over Adams.

if Vucevic isn't available then I also wouldn't put it past Danny to go young and take a run at Julius Randle. 

Randle is only 24 years old and has already put up a season of 21 / 9 / 3 on 52% shooting.  A trio of Brown/Tatum/Randle could form one of the more promising young cores in the NBA - and Boston still has the Memphis pick which could potentially be used in a trade or could bring in another elite prospect next year or the year after.

Even if Danny decides to bring back Rozier - the athleticism of that lineup (Rozier, Brown, Tatum, Randle) would be incredible.  That would be one hell of a fast break team, and a ton of fun to watch - even if it may not be a title contender for another couple of years.  Pelicans are looking to win now - wonder if they would concider working a sign and trade, Randle for Hayward?

Then we could add Randle without taking up any of our cap (actually we'd free up a few million extra and could probably still add Vucevic). 

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2019, 02:10:10 AM »

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I'd go with dedmon on an inflated one or two year deal.
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Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2019, 11:01:50 AM »

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I'm confused - why would anybody here take Adams over Capella?

Capella put up superior numbers, is about on par defensively, has pretty much the same limitations as Adams, and his salary is $10m cheaper.  What am I missing?

Originally I wanted Capela, but seeing that Vuce is in the market, why not go for him. I feel like Vucevic is the second best big man behind Anthony Davis in our list of targets for bigs.

Oh, I agree.

I don't feel confident enough in the amount of proven offensive production that we have right now, so I'd much rather take Vucevic. 

But if (for aguments sake) Vucevic signs in Orlando or LA,  and we really need a big, then I'd lean towrds Capella over Adams.

if Vucevic isn't available then I also wouldn't put it past Danny to go young and take a run at Julius Randle. 

Randle is only 24 years old and has already put up a season of 21 / 9 / 3 on 52% shooting.  A trio of Brown/Tatum/Randle could form one of the more promising young cores in the NBA - and Boston still has the Memphis pick which could potentially be used in a trade or could bring in another elite prospect next year or the year after.

Even if Danny decides to bring back Rozier - the athleticism of that lineup (Rozier, Brown, Tatum, Randle) would be incredible.  That would be one hell of a fast break team, and a ton of fun to watch - even if it may not be a title contender for another couple of years. Pelicans are looking to win now - wonder if they would concider working a sign and trade, Randle for Hayward?

Then we could add Randle without taking up any of our cap (actually we'd free up a few million extra and could probably still add Vucevic).

That would be a quite brilliant move. In theory Hayward would be a good fit on that Pelicans team.

I still prefer Adams over Vucevic if OKC is really interested in making a deal. Then when Tatum signs a new contract at the same time Adams comes off his big salary and you can probably re-sign him for less.

Rozier/Brown/Tatum/Randle/Adams + Smart as 6th man.

Add some vets to our current bench (Edwards/Langford/Ojeleye/G.Williams/R.Williams) and it wouldn't be so bad.

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2019, 10:19:32 AM »

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Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2019, 10:29:05 AM »

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I wonder if the Celtics are still interested in Vincent Poirier?

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/858246/boston-celtics-reportedly-approach-vincent-poirier/
Is he starting caliber? I don't know anything about him, but I'd be surprised if a EuroLeague guy came right in and started
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Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2019, 10:34:13 AM »

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I'm confused - why would anybody here take Adams over Capella?

Capella put up superior numbers, is about on par defensively, has pretty much the same limitations as Adams, and his salary is $10m cheaper.  What am I missing?

Adams would be much cheaper, as it's essentially a salary dump. Hell, we could potentially get a pick out of it.

Reports suggest that Houston is asking for quite a bit for Capella.

Exactly. In a vacuum, Capela would be the better guy to get, but Adams would come much, much cheaper
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Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2019, 10:55:07 AM »

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I voted Adams because I think he represents the best now value and future value.  Plus he comes withat least one future 1st.

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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2019, 10:56:51 AM »

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I really don't want more then two seasons of big money on a C unless he is truely a game changer.  The NBA game is no longer built that way.

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2019, 10:59:23 AM »

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Adams is a terrible choice.

Old school center. Massive contract. And for what a pick in the 20s somethime?

No thanks.

Give me bryant. 21 years ols, great athlete. Great tools. Can shoot 3s. Fits the age moving forward. Tremendous at scoring around the basket. Tonnes of heart. Only cost 12ish million.


So for me, adding bryant, who can be a part of the team for a decade and leave enough money to sign at least 1 more person is far far far far far superior to a placeholer that ties up all capspace for a few years with no benefit at all.

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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2019, 11:02:46 AM »

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No one on the list is worth giving a big money long term contract or trading assets for.  Dedmon or Bryant would be my choices. 

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2019, 11:38:31 AM »

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My pick is Cousins. I am hoping for a 1+1, not a long term deal. It's low risk if just a two year deal but it may need to be $20 or $25 million to get it done.

Vucevic is probably getting the max from the Magic. Magic won't risk taking a step back.

Don't think Adams is going anywhere.

Bryant probably gets the rfa treatment with Wizards matching any offer he gets. Wizards have Beal, Rui, and Bryant to sell tickets. Then mid season a mature and humble Wall returning will probably get them back in the playoffs.

Turner is interesting but think it will take Marcus Smart and a first to get him.

Re: Poll: The C's are in need of a starting-caliber Center
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2019, 11:55:54 AM »

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My pick is Cousins. I am hoping for a 1+1, not a long term deal. It's low risk if just a two year deal but it may need to be $20 or $25 million to get it done.

Vucevic is probably getting the max from the Magic. Magic won't risk taking a step back.

Don't think Adams is going anywhere.

Bryant probably gets the rfa treatment with Wizards matching any offer he gets. Wizards have Beal, Rui, and Bryant to sell tickets. Then mid season a mature and humble Wall returning will probably get them back in the playoffs.

Turner is interesting but think it will take Marcus Smart and a first to get him.

I read on the blog that there is some loophole in Bryant’s RFA status.
Something about the amount they can offer being capped at a bit under $10m.
No idea if it’s true but if so, offering somewhere north of that cap may get him into green.

Would be a great pickup who fills a few needs and fits the timeline.

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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2019, 11:59:32 AM »

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I’d be happy with Vuc, Adams, Capela, or Bryant.
All have skills that fill a need.

Of the group I think Adams would have the best impact. Total beast on the defensive end. Fits the dirt dog mentality we’re going to need to play above expectations.