Bulpett: Kyrie still considering C's; C's want AD regardless of Kyrie's decision

[furball]

If Kyrie is going to The Nets why not just say it? Is he waiting for after the finals so it will be a bigger story? This is some high drama!

He is still under contract with the Celtics.   

[Sketch5]

If Kyrie is going to The Nets why not just say it? Is he waiting for after the finals so it will be a bigger story? This is some high drama!

He is still under contract with the Celtics.

Yeah, if they come out saying he is signing, the Nets could get nailed for tampering.

Plus who knows what could happen between now and June 30th

[liam]

If Kyrie is going to The Nets why not just say it? Is he waiting for after the finals so it will be a bigger story? This is some high drama!

He is still under contract with the Celtics.

I thought he already oped out. My bad.

[Ogaju]

If Kyrie is going to The Nets why not just say it? Is he waiting for after the finals so it will be a bigger story? This is some high drama!

He is still under contract with the Celtics.

I thought he already oped out. My bad.

of course he did. He is not a Celtic at this time.

[Fafnir]

If Kyrie is going to The Nets why not just say it? Is he waiting for after the finals so it will be a bigger story? This is some high drama!

He is still under contract with the Celtics.

I thought he already oped out. My bad.

of course he did. He is not a Celtic at this time.

This is not true!!!

He declined his player option for NEXT YEAR. He is still under contract with the Boston Celtics until June 30th 6 pm eastern. He is an upcoming FA which has some special rules attached to it, but he is a Celtic until the league year officially ends. (ie the Celtics cannot trade him)

[SparzWizard]

I’ve been one of the biggest proponents of Kyrie and trading for AD all year. I still want him back. But at this point, if we’re willing to trade for AD and Kyrie leaves, I’m burning the jersey. I don’t care that it’s a bad look. Kyrie verbally committed to the team, called out the young guys for not having experience, etc. And now at the first sign of adversity he wants to turn himself into a liar and make those of us who defended him all year look like fools? F that. One hand will be holding a beer as the other throws #11 into a Cape Cod beach bonfire.

I’m going to Trinidad & Tobago on Tuesday. I hope we have some clarity by then because I’ll be [dang]ed if I waste anymore time on this crap than I already have when there’s life beyond the Celtics.

He did say that he'd "come back if the fans want him" and so far looking like a lot of fans despise him throughout the course of the season...so not really his fault ay 

[Fafnir]

If Kyrie is going to The Nets why not just say it? Is he waiting for after the finals so it will be a bigger story? This is some high drama!

Uh I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to go to the Nets alone. He was trying to convince KD to go there after all, and we haven't heard if that effort was successful. Even if it was KD's injury could easily cause him to reevaluate his thinking.

[Ogaju]

I’ve been one of the biggest proponents of Kyrie and trading for AD all year. I still want him back. But at this point, if we’re willing to trade for AD and Kyrie leaves, I’m burning the jersey. I don’t care that it’s a bad look. Kyrie verbally committed to the team, called out the young guys for not having experience, etc. And now at the first sign of adversity he wants to turn himself into a liar and make those of us who defended him all year look like fools? F that. One hand will be holding a beer as the other throws #11 into a Cape Cod beach bonfire.

I’m going to Trinidad & Tobago on Tuesday. I hope we have some clarity by then because I’ll be [dang]ed if I waste anymore time on this crap than I already have when there’s life beyond the Celtics.

He did say that he'd "come back if the fans want him" and so far looking like a lot of fans despise him throughout the course of the season...so not really his fault ay 

He has opted out he is no longer a Celtic. Good riddance. Blame the fans if you want, but Kyrie never bought into this team. Name one player that Kyrie has recruited to the Celtics. I will help you out, NONE.

[ozgod]

I’ve been one of the biggest proponents of Kyrie and trading for AD all year. I still want him back. But at this point, if we’re willing to trade for AD and Kyrie leaves, I’m burning the jersey. I don’t care that it’s a bad look. Kyrie verbally committed to the team, called out the young guys for not having experience, etc. And now at the first sign of adversity he wants to turn himself into a liar and make those of us who defended him all year look like fools? F that. One hand will be holding a beer as the other throws #11 into a Cape Cod beach bonfire.

I’m going to Trinidad & Tobago on Tuesday. I hope we have some clarity by then because I’ll be [dang]ed if I waste anymore time on this crap than I already have when there’s life beyond the Celtics.

He did say that he'd "come back if the fans want him" and so far looking like a lot of fans despise him throughout the course of the season...so not really his fault ay 

He has opted out he is no longer a Celtic. Good riddance. Blame the fans if you want, but Kyrie never bought into this team. Name one player that Kyrie has recruited to the Celtics. I will help you out, NONE.

Technically he hasn't opted out of anything yet. He just didn't opt in. I think he's technically a Celtic till June 30. Which is why we can't technically trade for AD till after then.

Realistically though, who knows where Kyrie is. He may not even be on Planet Earth.

[ozgod]

Bulpett's latest looks like Kyrie is indeed gone. I managed to cut and paste the article before their paywall came up.

Is Kyrie Irving already gone? Sources say he’s preparing to join the Nets

By STEVE BULPETT | stephen.bulpett@bostonherald.com | Boston Herald

PUBLISHED: June 13, 2019 at 5:41 pm | UPDATED: June 13, 2019 at 6:19 pm

It has seemed from Danny Ainge’s comments last week and the general front office vibe that the Celtics have been very careful to leave a burning candle on the window sill for Kyrie Irving. But that light may be flickering —  if, in fact, it hasn’t already been extinguished.

According to a source with ties to Roc Nation, the organization expected to become Irving’s new representative, the All-Star point guard is prepared to sign with the Brooklyn Nets when he becomes a free agent next month. A separate league source told the Herald that his team (not the Celtics) has received the same information and is operating under the belief that Irving wants to join the Nets.

Word is that the Celtics, meanwhile, had not been given any definitive indication from Irving as of Thursday afternoon.

To be fair to the situation, any story involving Irving needs to contain a disclaimer. While the two sources cited in the second paragraph are to be trusted, most anything involving Irving should be seen as a fluid matter. Nothing can be truly settled until a contract is signed, and that cannot take place until the NBA moratorium ends on July 6 at noon Eastern Time. And, as Celtic followers have come to know, Irving remains eminently capable of changing his mind.

It therefore was clear that Ainge was choosing his words carefully when he spoke with the media on June 5, not wanting to say anything that might damage any chance the Celts might have at keeping Irving.

There may have been some thought among Greenhearts (at least those who want Irving to stay) that Kevin Durant’s ruptured Achilles’ tendon would cause Kyrie to reconsider his desire to team up with Durant and perhaps choose to stay in Boston. But Irving this week severed ties with his long-time agent, Jeff Wechsler, and reports immediately had him moving to Roc Nation, the entertainment and management firm founded by Jay-Z, who once had a small ownership stake in the Nets.

Irving must wait 15 days to sign officially with Roc Nation, a period dictated by the NBA Players Association to discourage the poaching of clients by agents. That still leaves ample time for Irving’s new reps to be prepared for the June 30 opening of free agent negotiations.

At present, the Durant situation appears to be having no bearing on Irving. As reported here last month, a Golden State source said that Irving had definitely spoken to Durant about teaming up once they became free agents. Another source in that story said the problem was that Irving wanted Brooklyn, while Durant was leaning hard to the Knicks.

Now, with the latter likely to miss most if not all of the 2019-20 season, New York and other clubs with interest must consider that not only will Durant be facing what is essentially a redshirt year, but that he will be 32 at the start of the 2020-21 campaign.

There is quite a bit for teams, as well as players who hope to join with other stars to create an instant contender, to consider.

And, as written here in the same May story referenced above, two teams with cap space had backed away from pursuit of Irving as their primary free agent target. Both said that if they were able to land their first choice and that player wanted Irving, they would then go after him. It is important to note that the Nets were neither of those clubs.

Steve Bulpett
Steve Bulpett is in his 34th season covering the Celtics. In addition to being the dean of NBA beat writers in continuous service with a team, he's also followed the Celtics as a home and away beat longer than anyone in franchise history. The native of Lynn and Swampscott is a graduate of the University of Dayton, where he pursued dreams of playing basketball and becoming a lawyer. Reality intervened on the court, but he found a way to stay involved in the game. He left UD with an intramural hoop championship (teammates with sportscaster Dan Patrick) and a journalism degree.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/06/13/is-kyrie-irving-already-gone-sources-say-hes-preparing-to-join-the-nets/

[jpotter33]

Bulpett's latest looks like Kyrie is indeed gone. I managed to cut and paste the article before their paywall came up.

Is Kyrie Irving already gone? Sources say he’s preparing to join the Nets

By STEVE BULPETT | stephen.bulpett@bostonherald.com | Boston Herald

PUBLISHED: June 13, 2019 at 5:41 pm | UPDATED: June 13, 2019 at 6:19 pm

It has seemed from Danny Ainge’s comments last week and the general front office vibe that the Celtics have been very careful to leave a burning candle on the window sill for Kyrie Irving. But that light may be flickering —  if, in fact, it hasn’t already been extinguished.

According to a source with ties to Roc Nation, the organization expected to become Irving’s new representative, the All-Star point guard is prepared to sign with the Brooklyn Nets when he becomes a free agent next month. A separate league source told the Herald that his team (not the Celtics) has received the same information and is operating under the belief that Irving wants to join the Nets.

Word is that the Celtics, meanwhile, had not been given any definitive indication from Irving as of Thursday afternoon.

To be fair to the situation, any story involving Irving needs to contain a disclaimer. While the two sources cited in the second paragraph are to be trusted, most anything involving Irving should be seen as a fluid matter. Nothing can be truly settled until a contract is signed, and that cannot take place until the NBA moratorium ends on July 6 at noon Eastern Time. And, as Celtic followers have come to know, Irving remains eminently capable of changing his mind.

It therefore was clear that Ainge was choosing his words carefully when he spoke with the media on June 5, not wanting to say anything that might damage any chance the Celts might have at keeping Irving.

There may have been some thought among Greenhearts (at least those who want Irving to stay) that Kevin Durant’s ruptured Achilles’ tendon would cause Kyrie to reconsider his desire to team up with Durant and perhaps choose to stay in Boston. But Irving this week severed ties with his long-time agent, Jeff Wechsler, and reports immediately had him moving to Roc Nation, the entertainment and management firm founded by Jay-Z, who once had a small ownership stake in the Nets.

Irving must wait 15 days to sign officially with Roc Nation, a period dictated by the NBA Players Association to discourage the poaching of clients by agents. That still leaves ample time for Irving’s new reps to be prepared for the June 30 opening of free agent negotiations.

At present, the Durant situation appears to be having no bearing on Irving. As reported here last month, a Golden State source said that Irving had definitely spoken to Durant about teaming up once they became free agents. Another source in that story said the problem was that Irving wanted Brooklyn, while Durant was leaning hard to the Knicks.

Now, with the latter likely to miss most if not all of the 2019-20 season, New York and other clubs with interest must consider that not only will Durant be facing what is essentially a redshirt year, but that he will be 32 at the start of the 2020-21 campaign.

There is quite a bit for teams, as well as players who hope to join with other stars to create an instant contender, to consider.

And, as written here in the same May story referenced above, two teams with cap space had backed away from pursuit of Irving as their primary free agent target. Both said that if they were able to land their first choice and that player wanted Irving, they would then go after him. It is important to note that the Nets were neither of those clubs.

Steve Bulpett
Steve Bulpett is in his 34th season covering the Celtics. In addition to being the dean of NBA beat writers in continuous service with a team, he's also followed the Celtics as a home and away beat longer than anyone in franchise history. The native of Lynn and Swampscott is a graduate of the University of Dayton, where he pursued dreams of playing basketball and becoming a lawyer. Reality intervened on the court, but he found a way to stay involved in the game. He left UD with an intramural hoop championship (teammates with sportscaster Dan Patrick) and a journalism degree.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/06/13/is-kyrie-irving-already-gone-sources-say-hes-preparing-to-join-the-nets/

Is this a new article or just the full article from yesterday?

[ozgod]

Bulpett's latest looks like Kyrie is indeed gone. I managed to cut and paste the article before their paywall came up.

Is Kyrie Irving already gone? Sources say he’s preparing to join the Nets

By STEVE BULPETT | stephen.bulpett@bostonherald.com | Boston Herald

PUBLISHED: June 13, 2019 at 5:41 pm | UPDATED: June 13, 2019 at 6:19 pm

It has seemed from Danny Ainge’s comments last week and the general front office vibe that the Celtics have been very careful to leave a burning candle on the window sill for Kyrie Irving. But that light may be flickering —  if, in fact, it hasn’t already been extinguished.

According to a source with ties to Roc Nation, the organization expected to become Irving’s new representative, the All-Star point guard is prepared to sign with the Brooklyn Nets when he becomes a free agent next month. A separate league source told the Herald that his team (not the Celtics) has received the same information and is operating under the belief that Irving wants to join the Nets.

Word is that the Celtics, meanwhile, had not been given any definitive indication from Irving as of Thursday afternoon.

To be fair to the situation, any story involving Irving needs to contain a disclaimer. While the two sources cited in the second paragraph are to be trusted, most anything involving Irving should be seen as a fluid matter. Nothing can be truly settled until a contract is signed, and that cannot take place until the NBA moratorium ends on July 6 at noon Eastern Time. And, as Celtic followers have come to know, Irving remains eminently capable of changing his mind.

It therefore was clear that Ainge was choosing his words carefully when he spoke with the media on June 5, not wanting to say anything that might damage any chance the Celts might have at keeping Irving.

There may have been some thought among Greenhearts (at least those who want Irving to stay) that Kevin Durant’s ruptured Achilles’ tendon would cause Kyrie to reconsider his desire to team up with Durant and perhaps choose to stay in Boston. But Irving this week severed ties with his long-time agent, Jeff Wechsler, and reports immediately had him moving to Roc Nation, the entertainment and management firm founded by Jay-Z, who once had a small ownership stake in the Nets.

Irving must wait 15 days to sign officially with Roc Nation, a period dictated by the NBA Players Association to discourage the poaching of clients by agents. That still leaves ample time for Irving’s new reps to be prepared for the June 30 opening of free agent negotiations.

At present, the Durant situation appears to be having no bearing on Irving. As reported here last month, a Golden State source said that Irving had definitely spoken to Durant about teaming up once they became free agents. Another source in that story said the problem was that Irving wanted Brooklyn, while Durant was leaning hard to the Knicks.

Now, with the latter likely to miss most if not all of the 2019-20 season, New York and other clubs with interest must consider that not only will Durant be facing what is essentially a redshirt year, but that he will be 32 at the start of the 2020-21 campaign.

There is quite a bit for teams, as well as players who hope to join with other stars to create an instant contender, to consider.

And, as written here in the same May story referenced above, two teams with cap space had backed away from pursuit of Irving as their primary free agent target. Both said that if they were able to land their first choice and that player wanted Irving, they would then go after him. It is important to note that the Nets were neither of those clubs.

Steve Bulpett
Steve Bulpett is in his 34th season covering the Celtics. In addition to being the dean of NBA beat writers in continuous service with a team, he's also followed the Celtics as a home and away beat longer than anyone in franchise history. The native of Lynn and Swampscott is a graduate of the University of Dayton, where he pursued dreams of playing basketball and becoming a lawyer. Reality intervened on the court, but he found a way to stay involved in the game. He left UD with an intramural hoop championship (teammates with sportscaster Dan Patrick) and a journalism degree.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/06/13/is-kyrie-irving-already-gone-sources-say-hes-preparing-to-join-the-nets/

Is this a new article or just the full article from yesterday?

It's the one from last night. I managed to copy and paste it to Notepad before the Subscribe window popped up 

[Fafnir]

Full article from yesterday.

[BringToughnessBack]

If anything, that article could help Danny not give the farm to NO for Davis. Maybe it is all one big fat Houdini act with Kyrie and suddenly he will "change" his mind and return to join Davis, Tatum, Hayward and Horford to form one of the most scary starting fives in recent years One can hope it is trickery as I truly want to see our super team next season.

[footey]

This article in Cleveland.com reiterates that NOL prefers to trade with the Celtics over the Lakers.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2019/06/nba-draft-2019-rumors-news-why-pelicans-prefer-to-trade-anthony-davis-to-boston.html