Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)

[jpotter33]

https://twitter.com/dangercart/status/1138602408504942594

I know Woj just said that Boston is in on Mike Conley but someone needs to show me how that trade would work financially without being super complicated, having the C’s giving up way too much, or including Hayward (seems highly unlikely) before I buy it.

This is all the context that I have, as apparently he said it on the Mock Draft Show that I'm not watching, but figured I would post it anyways. He also said that Boston is actively looking to trade at least some of the picks this year, as we unsurprisingly don't want three mid-to-late first round rookies on the team next year. Though I don't know the context of that claim (a bigger trade? future picks?).

https://twitter.com/Tom_NBA/status/1138609471352168448

Woj on the Celtics trading late first-round picks, driving an ice pick into my heart: "They don’t want to have three rookies on this team next season."

Have to agree with Dangercart. I don't see how we trade for Conley without giving up one of Horford or Hayward, which would not be ideal and would likely not be worth it.

[Moranis]

Sign and trade Irving and add some salary to him to create a large enough trade exception.  Then trade a couple of firsts to Memphis for Conley.

[hpantazo]

Sign and trade Irving and add some salary to him to create a large enough trade exception.  Then trade a couple of firsts to Memphis for Conley.

Why would Kyrie agree to a sign and trade to go to Memphis?

Ah..just realized you meant to create a trade exception by trading him to another team like the Nets. Still don't see that happening though.

[Silky]

If team insists on a deal for davis conley would be a good add.

Perhaps even without davis conley would be a good add.

Its a definate team needs a center amd a pg this offseason.

[BringToughnessBack]

If our interest is true, Kyrie has told Danny gone for good which is not surprising given the way he was treated. Too bad, I was trying to rack my brain when was the last time we had two bonafide superstars in their prime wearing green and drew a blank. Close in 80s but not quite two top ten players. Definitely not 07-08 as they were awesome but past their prime. We could have had Davis and Kyrie plus Hayward and Horford...what a shame...what a shame...

[gpap]

I've always felt Conley made a lot of sense if Kyrie left.

Good player and well respected.

[jambr380]

Sign and trade Irving and add some salary to him to create a large enough trade exception.  Then trade a couple of firsts to Memphis for Conley.

Due to BYC, Irving's salary will only count for $20.1M in outgoing salary. We are looking at sending out Smart if that's the case. If Irving is leaving anyway, then I guess it is just Smart and pick(s) for Conley, but I am still not totally sold on that one. I would personally just rather push for Russell in a double S&T. Irving, Yabu, picks, and other sweeteners, but not Smart.

[RazzelnoDazzel]

I mean, I wouldn’t trade any assets for Conley but I guess I trust Danny.

[gpap]

If our interest is true, Kyrie has told Danny gone for good which is not surprising given the way he was treated. Too bad, I was trying to rack my brain when was the last time we had two bonafide superstars in their prime wearing green and drew a blank. Close in 80s but not quite two top ten players. Definitely not 07-08 as they were awesome but past their prime. We could have had Davis and Kyrie plus Hayward and Horford...what a shame...what a shame...

Nobody treated Kyrie poorly. He had it made here and did whatever he wanted. And Ainge is probably willing to bend backwards to assemble a roster Taylor made for him.

[jpotter33]

Sign and trade Irving and add some salary to him to create a large enough trade exception.  Then trade a couple of firsts to Memphis for Conley.

Due to BYC, Irving's salary will only count for $20.1M in outgoing salary. We are looking at sending out Smart if that's the case. If Irving is leaving anyway, then I guess it is just Smart and pick(s) for Conley, but I am still not totally sold on that one. I would personally just rather push for Russell in a double S&T. Irving, Yabu, picks, and other sweeteners, but not Smart.

I don’t think you can use a trade exception plus salary to trade for a player with a larger salary though, can you? To use a trade exception in a trade, I think the incoming player must completely fit inside the tpe abd can’t be combined with other salary.

[BringToughnessBack]

If our interest is true, Kyrie has told Danny gone for good which is not surprising given the way he was treated. Too bad, I was trying to rack my brain when was the last time we had two bonafide superstars in their prime wearing green and drew a blank. Close in 80s but not quite two top ten players. Definitely not 07-08 as they were awesome but past their prime. We could have had Davis and Kyrie plus Hayward and Horford...what a shame...what a shame...

Nobody treated Kyrie poorly. He had it made here and did whatever he wanted. And Ainge is probably willing to bend backwards to assemble a roster Taylor made for him.

Danny treated him well. That I agree with but elements of our media and fandom did not. This is where I disagree. He was not embraced fully due to to lingering bitterness with IT situation and I did love IT. That coupled with expectations that we would miraculously vault to a mid 60s win team overnight. When that did not happen, the claws were out by many.

[gpap]

I mean, I wouldn’t trade any assets for Conley but I guess I trust Danny.

It makes sense. If we get Davis, Conley seems like a guy who can really play to AD's strengths.

[Moranis]

Sign and trade Irving and add some salary to him to create a large enough trade exception.  Then trade a couple of firsts to Memphis for Conley.

Due to BYC, Irving's salary will only count for $20.1M in outgoing salary. We are looking at sending out Smart if that's the case. If Irving is leaving anyway, then I guess it is just Smart and pick(s) for Conley, but I am still not totally sold on that one. I would personally just rather push for Russell in a double S&T. Irving, Yabu, picks, and other sweeteners, but not Smart.

I don’t think you can use a trade exception plus salary to trade for a player with a larger salary though, can you? To use a trade exception in a trade, I think the incoming player must completely fit inside the tpe abd can’t be combined with other salary.

I think he is saying instead of a trade exception you just have to do a 3 team trade.

i.e. Irving to Nets, Conley to C's, Smart/picks to Memphis.  Add in other pieces as necessary.  Heck maybe you even do a Rozier sign and trade instead of Smart (assuming Rozier wants to go to Memphis and that they want Rozier)

[Smartacus]

Started mentally deep diving into the prospect of Conley as a Celtic a few months back.

I'm all for it if it can be done with a Kyrie trade exemption. One of my favorite aspects of these Stevens era is that we've had legitimate scoring from the PG spot. Not only would Conley continue that trend but he's an excellent defender and can run an offense.

One thing I'm certain about is that I want this team to solidify. I'm tired of always being a big trade or a future draft pick away from complete. Cash in our draft capital on Conley, roll with an extremely balanced unit of Conley / Hayward / Horford, let the Jays develop organically.

Brad Stevens has earned some continuity and Conley is the right kind of player to take us into the next era of Celtics Basketball.

[hpantazo]

If we keep Hayward and Horford it makes sense.

A core of AD, Horford, Hayward and Conley would be a highly skilled, team oriented core.