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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2019, 09:52:12 PM »

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No thanks. His offence is all putbacks & open looks generated by Harden
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2019, 09:56:28 PM »

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Not sure why everybody here is so down on Capela.

Does anyone not realize the Celts need a center to protect the paint, rebound and defend?

I know stats don't tell the whole story but Capela is a 25 year old center who averaged 16 pts/12 rbs per game last season.

And the idea that Robert Williams is a better option is completely laughable. Capela has been in the league for a few years now and has proven himself.

Williams is still very raw and needs probably at least another season to become the player he's capable of.

Just because Capela doesn't launch threes like Stevens would like, doesn't make him a bad player.

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2019, 09:58:01 PM »

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I don't mind Capela for the right price but I think this is on a scale of unlikely to very unlikely, given Danny's comments on restructuring Al's contract being a priority.
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2019, 10:01:46 PM »

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Not sure why everybody here is so down on Capela.

Does anyone not realize the Celts need a center to protect the paint, rebound and defend?

I know stats don't tell the whole story but Capela is a 25 year old center who averaged 16 pts/12 rbs per game last season.

And the idea that Robert Williams is a better option is completely laughable. Capela has been in the league for a few years now and has proven himself.

Williams is still very raw and needs probably at least another season to become the player he's capable of.

Just because Capela doesn't launch threes like Stevens would like, doesn't make him a bad player.
The thing is all the best teams have big men who can space the floor. Gasol, Ibaka, Lopez and guys like that. Then there are guys like Draymond, who is an elite passer (as is Gasol). Capela can't shoot and can't really pass, and he's a bad free throw shooter.

If we had someone as unstoppable on offence a season Harden then it's okay to have someone who can't generate their own offence. But we don't, especially if we lose Kyrie
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2019, 10:10:55 PM »

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Not sure why everybody here is so down on Capela.

Does anyone not realize the Celts need a center to protect the paint, rebound and defend?

I know stats don't tell the whole story but Capela is a 25 year old center who averaged 16 pts/12 rbs per game last season.

And the idea that Robert Williams is a better option is completely laughable. Capela has been in the league for a few years now and has proven himself.

Williams is still very raw and needs probably at least another season to become the player he's capable of.

Just because Capela doesn't launch threes like Stevens would like, doesn't make him a bad player.
The thing is all the best teams have big men who can space the floor. Gasol, Ibaka, Lopez and guys like that. Then there are guys like Draymond, who is an elite passer (as is Gasol). Capela can't shoot and can't really pass, and he's a bad free throw shooter.

If we had someone as unstoppable on offence a season Harden then it's okay to have someone who can't generate their own offence. But we don't, especially if we lose Kyrie

Well, not sure if the Celts plan to target Capela along WITH AD however if Ainge found a way to get both guys, I think that would be a really good frontcourt.

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2019, 10:13:42 PM »

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Boo! Name one normal big who played well under CBS. Don't say baynes because he can actually shoot and CBS didn't have him playing anything close to how cap plays! Gonna be a waste of money and assets.  :( Williams could be cappella but CBS doesn't have time for players like that. I get cap is already good at the defensive things Williams isn't but offensively, yuck! Name one guy who is good at lobs on this team... gonna be ugly.

I share your frustration with Stevens approach to the post game. Even worse, it seems to be shared by Danny Boy - as was first made apparent when he stupidly traded Perk for Jeff Green. I know the game has changed and all that - but you would think Danny would know better having played alongside the greatest frontcourt in NBA history. And if 1984 didn't teach him the value of rebounding, I don't know what will.
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2019, 10:21:05 PM »

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I'm not sure how to interpret Capela. His lack of outside game does run counter to all of the league's trends, and Harden/Houston create bizarre effects on player stats... BUT... his advanced stats are *fantastic*.

133 ORtg / 108 DRtg (last year 126/101)
Top-5 in the league in win shares per 48

Either Harden is simply the best player in the league hands down, or Capela is doing *something* well.

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2019, 10:30:40 PM »

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I'm not sure how to interpret Capela. His lack of outside game does run counter to all of the league's trends, and Harden/Houston create bizarre effects on player stats... BUT... his advanced stats are *fantastic*.

133 ORtg / 108 DRtg (last year 126/101)
Top-5 in the league in win shares per 48

Either Harden is simply the best player in the league hands down, or Capela is doing *something* well.
James Harden played 78 games;

Avg 36.1 points, 7.5 Assist, and 6.6 Rebounds
 James harden has a step back that’s literally unguardable, which is why he is being labeled the best offensive scorer in the NBA.

Oh yeah and he AVERAGED 36 points! Off of an iso heavy offence. So if it’s ISO heavy and Capela is setting the screen, WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON??? If the D focused on Capela Harden would average 50 and Capela 0 POINTS  lol
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #68 on: June 09, 2019, 11:14:12 PM »

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I'm not sure how to interpret Capela. His lack of outside game does run counter to all of the league's trends, and Harden/Houston create bizarre effects on player stats... BUT... his advanced stats are *fantastic*.

133 ORtg / 108 DRtg (last year 126/101)
Top-5 in the league in win shares per 48

Either Harden is simply the best player in the league hands down, or Capela is doing *something* well.
James Harden played 78 games;

Avg 36.1 points, 7.5 Assist, and 6.6 Rebounds
 James harden has a step back that’s literally unguardable, which is why he is being labeled the best offensive scorer in the NBA.

Oh yeah and he AVERAGED 36 points! Off of an iso heavy offence. So if it’s ISO heavy and Capela is setting the screen, WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON??? If the D focused on Capela Harden would average 50 and Capela 0 POINTS  lol

Yes, I think it's clear that Harden is a great player. That doesn't solve the mystery entirely, though, because there are other superstars in the league and their teammates aren't all putting up Capela's absurd advanced stats, and Houston isn't winning championships either. It all points to Capela still being an excellent role player thriving on a team that wins a lot of games.

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #69 on: June 09, 2019, 11:41:07 PM »

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I'm not sure how to interpret Capela. His lack of outside game does run counter to all of the league's trends, and Harden/Houston create bizarre effects on player stats... BUT... his advanced stats are *fantastic*.

133 ORtg / 108 DRtg (last year 126/101)
Top-5 in the league in win shares per 48

Either Harden is simply the best player in the league hands down, or Capela is doing *something* well.
James Harden played 78 games;

Avg 36.1 points, 7.5 Assist, and 6.6 Rebounds
 James harden has a step back that’s literally unguardable, which is why he is being labeled the best offensive scorer in the NBA.

Oh yeah and he AVERAGED 36 points! Off of an iso heavy offence. So if it’s ISO heavy and Capela is setting the screen, WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON??? If the D focused on Capela Harden would average 50 and Capela 0 POINTS  lol

Yes, I think it's clear that Harden is a great player. That doesn't solve the mystery entirely, though, because there are other superstars in the league and their teammates aren't all putting up Capela's absurd advanced stats, and Houston isn't winning championships either. It all points to Capela still being an excellent role player thriving on a team that wins a lot of games.

Im sorry what other super star is putting up 36 points a game? The only absurd number is 36. Like I’m not sure how you are trying to argue this. Do you not know how ridiculous it is to average that on a nightly basis? Do you not realize that NOONE else in the league even averaged 30?

On top of 36 points he had 7.5 assist. So Harden has 22 points going into the 3rd quarter and it’s because he’s destroying everyone on your team 1 on 1. So the logic’s thing is to step up on the PnR and double team him to stop him from scoring. Well once you do that 7 times that’s 7 open dunks for Capela, there goes 14 of his points he averages a game. What the other bucket, a put back rebound from a harden miss? Cmon son!!!
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #70 on: June 09, 2019, 11:48:21 PM »

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Very difficult to imagine a sign and trade that works for Houston. They aren't taking our junk..

Houston want another star to go all in on Harden. Remember that when you consider what goes to them...

TP. If Houston is floating Capela out there, it's probably because they're hoping that somebody will wow them with an offer and not because they want to take on players that are unwanted by their own teams.

I prefer still going after AD, but if that doesn't happen, Capela is interesting as a "goalie" type center that would allow us to play Tatum more at the 4. Maybe. Depends on the price.

Right now, Williams is nothing more than possible long term potential. He is not Capela.

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« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2019, 06:31:32 AM »

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Could it be a bargaining manuever to keep the price of Davis reasonable?

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2019, 07:29:41 AM »

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No thanks. His offence is all putbacks & open looks generated by Harden

In a vacuum, yes, Capela isn’t my first choice. But what if we miss on AD and Kyrie leaves, then Al says he wants out so he can chase a ring. Horford to HOU for Capela could work for both teams.

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« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2019, 07:45:28 AM »

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The way the Celtics shoot and miss so many 3s, Capela would be a great asset on this team..probably get alot of offensive rebounds
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« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2019, 07:51:20 AM »

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No thanks. His offence is all putbacks & open looks generated by Harden

In a vacuum, yes, Capela isn’t my first choice. But what if we miss on AD and Kyrie leaves, then Al says he wants out so he can chase a ring. Horford to HOU for Capela could work for both teams.
Yeah, in a world where this happens I'd be okay with it. If Horford wants out getting anything in return is a plus, so you'd have to take a look. If that's the best return we could get for Al then so be it.
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