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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2019, 09:07:45 PM »

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Regarding Horford - possibly you include Yabusele and take back Capela + Eric Gordon, and then use a late draft pick to dump Gordon's salary?

Theoretically after that, we have enough cap room to deal Tatum for Davis w/o a bunch of extra salary and end up with something like?

Smart, Brown, Hayward, Davis, Capela

I have no idea what to make of that team, except that it would be interesting...

Hi rockets fan here. Just a thought. Al Harford would be a throw in. Rockets would probably trade gordon for AL, Smart and 1st round pick. Regarding Capela, he is a up and coming Center, and probably would require 1st and SNT Terry Rozier, SNT Morris. Just coming from what value there is. Eric Gordon is a near allstar so i doubt you guys could even get him for AL, and 1st alone. Al is a aging Center/Powerfoward in the decline, so it would be more like.

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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2019, 09:10:22 PM »

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I think the point y’all are missing is that yeah we know rob is still raw...but we don’t see him much further away than Capela. All Capela do is catch open lobs... we all know that rob
Does that. Capela does not have a “feel for the game”. He legit sucks y’all will see.

Robs potential is far higher than Capelas is the other HUGE point.

Capela was seventh in the league in rebounding rate, an excellent screen setter, and an athletic, active defender.  He’s also improved every year - all signs are he’s a hard worker committed to improvement.

Yes, his offensive game is limited. And I’m not saying he’s great. But to say he “sucks” or only knows how to finish a lob is a pretty unusual take. Are you basing this on the GSW series this season?

And what was Whiteside 8th? Because he sucks to. So you high points on Capela is he’s Athletic, active on defense, and set screens. How do you view Robert Williams3?

But we're not talking about Whiteside.

Just because Whiteside puts up similar production doesn't make Capela a bad player. Capela has been a massive contributor in some of the best offenses and defenses of the past 5 years.

Unlike Whiteside, Capela puts up numbers on a winner. He can run the floor, boards and can guard in space without taking away possessions from the high usage guards.

I do not think Robert Williams will ever become the player that Capela is right now. I don't think he's disciplined enough to become Capela. Capela's production is no accident, he creates those opportunity through excellent timing and positioning.

Robert tries to block everything that moves and IMO hasn't shown that he can assimilate into a strict system. I think its more likely that RW III is out of the league than a contributor on a true championship contender.
Exactly. Great post, TP. Plus Capela doesn't have the crippling attitude problems that Whiteside has.
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #47 on: June 09, 2019, 09:10:32 PM »

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I think the point y’all are missing is that yeah we know rob is still raw...but we don’t see him much further away than Capela. All Capela do is catch open lobs... we all know that rob
Does that. Capela does not have a “feel for the game”. He legit sucks y’all will see.

Robs potential is far higher than Capelas is the other HUGE point.

Capela was seventh in the league in rebounding rate, an excellent screen setter, and an athletic, active defender.  He’s also improved every year - all signs are he’s a hard worker committed to improvement.

Yes, his offensive game is limited. And I’m not saying he’s great. But to say he “sucks” or only knows how to finish a lob is a pretty unusual take. Are you basing this on the GSW series this season?

And what was Whiteside 8th? Because he sucks to. So you high points on Capela is he’s Athletic, active on defense, and set screens. How do you view Robert Williams3?

Williams is a great run/jump athlete who hasn’t shown that he has a good understanding of the game - offense or defense. Brad played Daniel Theis ahead of RWIII. There was a reason.

I haven’t watched a lot of Capela, but everything I read is that he’s a good rim protector and a reasonable perimeter defender.  Active body, good motor. Laugh at screen-setting, but it matters to team offense. Knowing where to set, on what side, and how not hold up a defender without fouling.


Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #48 on: June 09, 2019, 09:10:42 PM »

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I think the point y’all are missing is that yeah we know rob is still raw...but we don’t see him much further away than Capela. All Capela do is catch open lobs... we all know that rob
Does that. Capela does not have a “feel for the game”. He legit sucks y’all will see.

Robs potential is far higher than Capelas is the other HUGE point.

Capela was seventh in the league in rebounding rate, an excellent screen setter, and an athletic, active defender.  He’s also improved every year - all signs are he’s a hard worker committed to improvement.

Yes, his offensive game is limited. And I’m not saying he’s great. But to say he “sucks” or only knows how to finish a lob is a pretty unusual take. Are you basing this on the GSW series this season?

And what was Whiteside 8th? Because he sucks to. So you high points on Capela is he’s Athletic, active on defense, and set screens. How do you view Robert Williams3?

But we're not talking about Whiteside.

Just because Whiteside puts up similar production doesn't make Capela a bad player. Capela has been a massive contributor in some of the best offenses and defenses of the past 5 years.

Unlike Whiteside, Capela puts up numbers on a winner. He can run the floor, boards and can guard in space without taking away possessions from the high usage guards.

I do not think Robert Williams will ever become the player that Capela is right now. I don't think he's disciplined enough to become Capela. Capela's production is no accident, he creates those opportunity through excellent timing and positioning.

Robert tries to block everything that moves and IMO hasn't shown that he can assimilate into a strict system. I think its more likely that RW III is out of the league than a contributor on a true championship contender.

It was Robs 1st year, of course he’s jumping at everything. It takes experience to learn when to go Man lol. I’m going to hold you to your words in Rob not being able to be what Capela is...

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #49 on: June 09, 2019, 09:12:04 PM »

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I think the point y’all are missing is that yeah we know rob is still raw...but we don’t see him much further away than Capela. All Capela do is catch open lobs... we all know that rob
Does that. Capela does not have a “feel for the game”. He legit sucks y’all will see.

Robs potential is far higher than Capelas is the other HUGE point.

Capela was seventh in the league in rebounding rate, an excellent screen setter, and an athletic, active defender.  He’s also improved every year - all signs are he’s a hard worker committed to improvement.

Yes, his offensive game is limited. And I’m not saying he’s great. But to say he “sucks” or only knows how to finish a lob is a pretty unusual take. Are you basing this on the GSW series this season?

And what was Whiteside 8th? Because he sucks to. So you high points on Capela is he’s Athletic, active on defense, and set screens. How do you view Robert Williams3?

Williams is a great run/jump athlete who hasn’t shown that he has a good understanding of the game - offense or defense. Brad played Daniel Theis ahead of RWIII. There was a reason.

I haven’t watched a lot of Capela, but everything I read is that he’s a good rim protector and a reasonable perimeter defender.  Active body, good motor. Laugh at screen-setting, but it matters to team offense. Knowing where to set, on what side, and how not hold up a defender without fouling.

I'm all for acquiring Capela mainly because it means we'll have a tall who'll stay in the [dang] paint.

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #50 on: June 09, 2019, 09:12:37 PM »

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Boo! Name one normal big who played well under CBS. Don't say baynes because he can actually shoot and CBS didn't have him playing anything close to how cap plays! Gonna be a waste of money and assets.  :( Williams could be cappella but CBS doesn't have time for players like that. I get cap is already good at the defensive things Williams isn't but offensively, yuck! Name one guy who is good at lobs on this team... gonna be ugly.

I'm afraid I have to agree with you. But Capela is just what the doctor ordered. It remains for Ainge to change Stevens' ways. The message didn't work with Williams. Try again, Danny.

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #51 on: June 09, 2019, 09:13:48 PM »

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Omg y’all are talking like Rob is soooo far off from Capela. Y’all might want to check Capelas stats his first few years only difference is Rob has a higher ceiling. I’m sure lots of people started ahead of Rob, ITS HIS 1st year! By year 3 HE WILL BE LIKE CAPELA IS NOW and Capela won’t be any better than what he is now lol. Waaaatch

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2019, 09:20:25 PM »

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Was Capela playing hurt this year?

In the past he was viewed as a guy who could switch onto wings and defend them well. In the playoffs the Warriors picked on him and he couldn't stay in front of guys in the half court.

I would love to get a true rim protector, rebounder and rim runner like him, but at the same time I'm not sure of the value of a guy who does that in the modern NBA. Center is kind of a mercenary position now.

If Kyrie walks I want Al to stay because he is a good mentor for the younger players. I would have much more interest in Capela next to Horford than trading him for Horford if that was possible (probably via sign and trades)
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2019, 09:21:54 PM »

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As the playoffs went deeper for Houston, it became clear Capella was a bit of a liability out there for Houston and played less and less and contributed less and less. Houston has decided Capella's limitations are conducive to winning playoff basketball.

Bigs gotta be more like Horford/Lopez/Gasol/Siakim/Ibaka/Durant. They have to stretch the floor as well as do everything down low to truly succeed in the playoffs.

I would never trade Horford for Capella unless Al asked to be traded there.

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #54 on: June 09, 2019, 09:28:18 PM »

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As the playoffs went deeper for Houston, it became clear Capella was a bit of a liability out there for Houston and played less and less and contributed less and less. Houston has decided Capella's limitations are conducive to winning playoff basketball.

Bigs gotta be more like Horford/Lopez/Gasol/Siakim/Ibaka/Durant. They have to stretch the floor as well as do everything down low to truly succeed in the playoffs.

I would never trade Horford for Capella unless Al asked to be traded there.
I don't know about everyone else, but for me, the biggest reason to trade for Capela would be to pair him with Horford, letting Horford be the more perimeter-oriented 4 he's always wanted to be. I don't know how that trade would work tho.
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #55 on: June 09, 2019, 09:32:01 PM »

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As the playoffs went deeper for Houston, it became clear Capella was a bit of a liability out there for Houston and played less and less and contributed less and less. Houston has decided Capella's limitations are conducive to winning playoff basketball.

Bigs gotta be more like Horford/Lopez/Gasol/Siakim/Ibaka/Durant. They have to stretch the floor as well as do everything down low to truly succeed in the playoffs.

I would never trade Horford for Capella unless Al asked to be traded there.
I don't know about everyone else, but for me, the biggest reason to trade for Capela would be to pair him with Horford, letting Horford be the more perimeter-oriented 4 he's always wanted to be. I don't know how that trade would work tho.

Imo would have to include hayward.

Hayward and williams

Gordon and capela


Or rozier and extra contracts for capela

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #56 on: June 09, 2019, 09:32:05 PM »

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As the playoffs went deeper for Houston, it became clear Capella was a bit of a liability out there for Houston and played less and less and contributed less and less. Houston has decided Capella's limitations are conducive to winning playoff basketball.

Bigs gotta be more like Horford/Lopez/Gasol/Siakim/Ibaka/Durant. They have to stretch the floor as well as do everything down low to truly succeed in the playoffs.

I would never trade Horford for Capella unless Al asked to be traded there.

I’m sorry if we had to trade Horford to Rockets, I’d rather not do it or trade Capela to a 3rd team, or if we had already got Davis, then I’d rather have Paul, Brown, Hayward, and Davis and future draft picks lol. I’m not taking Capela that’s a dead asset.

Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #57 on: June 09, 2019, 09:33:54 PM »

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Capella doesnt impress me. I think he is just perfect for that system.
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #58 on: June 09, 2019, 09:34:25 PM »

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Regarding Horford - possibly you include Yabusele and take back Capela + Eric Gordon, and then use a late draft pick to dump Gordon's salary?

Theoretically after that, we have enough cap room to deal Tatum for Davis w/o a bunch of extra salary and end up with something like?

Smart, Brown, Hayward, Davis, Capela

I have no idea what to make of that team, except that it would be interesting...

Hi rockets fan here. Just a thought. Al Harford would be a throw in. Rockets would probably trade gordon for AL, Smart and 1st round pick. Regarding Capela, he is a up and coming Center, and probably would require 1st and SNT Terry Rozier, SNT Morris. Just coming from what value there is. Eric Gordon is a near allstar so i doubt you guys could even get him for AL, and 1st alone. Al is a aging Center/Powerfoward in the decline, so it would be more like.

Marcus Smart, Rozier, Morris, and  1 2019 first for Capela,Gordon. Rockets are the only team that has beaten the warriors the most on there court. Capela and Gordon are really good players... JFYI

Welcome and thanks for the input - although I'm not sure I agree. If Houston is still trying to contend, they would do very well to acquire Horford for Capela and Gordon. I understand that Horford is aging, but his game isn't really based on elite athleticism. He would pretty clearly be the best player in the deal.

But, hey, if you guys want Rozier, the majority of us are more than happy to oblige. Anyway, here's a TP for your efforts! It's not always easy to come to another team's message board and post - we are always happy to have varying opinions.
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Re: Celtics may be targeting Clint Capela in trade.
« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2019, 09:42:39 PM »

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As the playoffs went deeper for Houston, it became clear Capella was a bit of a liability out there for Houston and played less and less and contributed less and less. Houston has decided Capella's limitations are conducive to winning playoff basketball.

Bigs gotta be more like Horford/Lopez/Gasol/Siakim/Ibaka/Durant. They have to stretch the floor as well as do everything down low to truly succeed in the playoffs.

I would never trade Horford for Capella unless Al asked to be traded there.
I don't know about everyone else, but for me, the biggest reason to trade for Capela would be to pair him with Horford, letting Horford be the more perimeter-oriented 4 he's always wanted to be. I don't know how that trade would work tho.

Imo would have to include hayward.

Hayward and williams

Gordon and capela


Or rozier and extra contracts for capela
I've always been a Hayward supporter, but if Houston accepts that trade, it might be too good to refuse. Gives us a true center, and some nice depth at the wing position.
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