Memphis Grizzlies 2019-2020 Watch Thread (#14)

[gpap]

I would classify the bottom 6 teams by net rating into 2 tiers:

Tier 1, the worst: GSW, NYK, Cleveland

Tier 2: NOP, ATL, Memphis

The Hawks will get Collins back and NOP should get Zion back, so maybe they improve a bit.  I'd breathe easier if Memphis landed bottom 4-5 in the league because at least 1-2 teams are gonna jump, but I doubt they end up worse than any Tier 1 team.  We need the 12 West teams ahead of them to beat them up.

The Warriors should get Curry back at some point too, although that may be too late in the season to make up ground.   I think if they end up with the 4th worst that’s ideal in case a couple teams jump them with the lottery ping pong balls.

Didn't the Warriors say that they were ruling him out for the year?

Klay is out for the year.

I think Curry is supposed to be back by March.

Probably some tuning up before the season ends to get him back on the court, in preparation of the following season.

[JBcat]

The Morant and JJJ duo is looking like a real nice building block.  JJJ has had some big scoring games recently. JV and Crowder are playing well as vets, and Dillion Brooks?!? He’s a former 2nd round pick playing really solid.

It’s gonna be tough, but there’s hope.  They have played 4 more games at home than on the road.   Their advanced expected win rate is 8 and they have 10 wins, so maybe they will come back to earth a little bit.  They have a really tough stretch in February with 10 out of 13 games on the road.

Warriors 5 wins (Curry back in February or March possibly)
Hawks 6 wins (Collins back any day)
Pelicans 7 wins (getting Zion back in January but could trade Holiday)
Cavs 7 wins (will only get worse if they trade Love, Thompson)
Knicks 7 wins (probably will stay at the same rate of wins)
Wizards 8 wins (will get Bryant back at some point)

Grizzlies with 10 wins have some breathing room.  They play at Cleveland on Friday.  Would be great if the Cavs pull out a win.

[Fafnir]

Honestly grizzlies are about as bad as expected, the big thing is that there are three teams that are way worse than I expected.

Pelicans/GSW/Atlanta

They're playing like a .500 team the last few weeks roughly, we'll see if their early season struggles or their recent play is more indicative of what kind of team they are overall.

[indeedproceed]

As a De'Anthony Melton stan, I'm really enjoying watching the Grizzlies lately.

[KGs Knee]

Looks like Memphis lost yet another game last night they had no business losing, and would have won if not for their coach once again sabotaging their chances at victory.

So, for those of you who don't want the pick to convey this year, don't worry, you're going to get your wish. Memphis is bound and determined to keep their pick and is likely to take whatever measures are necessary to make sure that happens.

Of course, given this team probably isn't actually a bottom 10 team based on talent, don't be surprised if they're fighting for a playoff spot next year and the pick we ultimately get is in the 14-18 range. This team isn't anywhere near as bad as their current record might suggest. And Morant and Jackson are only going to get better.

[Neurotic Guy]

Looks like Memphis lost yet another game last night they had no business losing, and would have won if not for their coach once again sabotaging their chances at victory.

So, for those of you who don't want the pick to convey this year, don't worry, you're going to get your wish. Memphis is bound and determined to keep their pick and is likely to take whatever measures are necessary to make sure that happens.

Of course, given this team probably isn't actually a bottom 10 team based on talent, don't be surprised if they're fighting for a playoff spot next year and the pick we ultimately get is in the 14-18 range. This team isn't anywhere near as bad as their current record might suggest. And Morant and Jackson are only going to get better.

At what point does the value of an unknown unprotected pick in 2021 get bested by a known pick in 2020?   If it is obvious that Memphis is a team capable of of big jump in 20-21, then wouldn’t number 7 or 8 in 2020 be viewed favorably value/wise compared to the unprotected pick?  I get the mystique value of an unprotected pick, but at some point that mystique is not as exciting when a team no longer appears capable of falling to a top 5 slot. 

[JBcat]

Looks like Memphis lost yet another game last night they had no business losing, and would have won if not for their coach once again sabotaging their chances at victory.

So, for those of you who don't want the pick to convey this year, don't worry, you're going to get your wish. Memphis is bound and determined to keep their pick and is likely to take whatever measures are necessary to make sure that happens.

Of course, given this team probably isn't actually a bottom 10 team based on talent, don't be surprised if they're fighting for a playoff spot next year and the pick we ultimately get is in the 14-18 range. This team isn't anywhere near as bad as their current record might suggest. And Morant and Jackson are only going to get better.

At what point does the value of an unknown unprotected pick in 2021 get bested by a known pick in 2020?   If it is obvious that Memphis is a team capable of of big jump in 20-21, then wouldn’t number 7 or 8 in 2020 be viewed favorably value/wise compared to the unprotected pick?  I get the mystique value of an unprotected pick, but at some point that mystique is not as exciting when a team no longer appears capable of falling to a top 5 slot.

I’d still take my chances on next year. The 2021 draft is being touted as having better talent so there might not be much of a difference from say 8 this year to 14 next year.  To boot after the high end lottery picks this year the draft may be point guard heavy which I wouldn’t say we have a great need for.

[keevsnick]

Looks like Memphis lost yet another game last night they had no business losing, and would have won if not for their coach once again sabotaging their chances at victory.

So, for those of you who don't want the pick to convey this year, don't worry, you're going to get your wish. Memphis is bound and determined to keep their pick and is likely to take whatever measures are necessary to make sure that happens.

Of course, given this team probably isn't actually a bottom 10 team based on talent, don't be surprised if they're fighting for a playoff spot next year and the pick we ultimately get is in the 14-18 range. This team isn't anywhere near as bad as their current record might suggest. And Morant and Jackson are only going to get better.

At what point does the value of an unknown unprotected pick in 2021 get bested by a known pick in 2020?   If it is obvious that Memphis is a team capable of of big jump in 20-21, then wouldn’t number 7 or 8 in 2020 be viewed favorably value/wise compared to the unprotected pick?  I get the mystique value of an unprotected pick, but at some point that mystique is not as exciting when a team no longer appears capable of falling to a top 5 slot.

Given the smooth lottery odds even a team that finishes 10 or 11th overall stands a decent shots at moving up to the top 4. And this years draft is not considered that strong in the back half of the lottery which limits the value of getting the pick this year.

Theres also the possibility of a ja morant injury given the recklessness with which he plays, that mean its totally possible that team still loses a lot next year even if they look better this year. I think you still wnat to roll the pick over, especially because the c''s already have two firsts on the way this year.

[footey]

Late lottery through 20 in ‘21 has more value than 7-10 ‘20.

[rondofan1255]

Looks like Memphis lost yet another game last night they had no business losing, and would have won if not for their coach once again sabotaging their chances at victory.

So, for those of you who don't want the pick to convey this year, don't worry, you're going to get your wish. Memphis is bound and determined to keep their pick and is likely to take whatever measures are necessary to make sure that happens.

Of course, given this team probably isn't actually a bottom 10 team based on talent, don't be surprised if they're fighting for a playoff spot next year and the pick we ultimately get is in the 14-18 range. This team isn't anywhere near as bad as their current record might suggest. And Morant and Jackson are only going to get better.

At what point does the value of an unknown unprotected pick in 2021 get bested by a known pick in 2020?   If it is obvious that Memphis is a team capable of of big jump in 20-21, then wouldn’t number 7 or 8 in 2020 be viewed favorably value/wise compared to the unprotected pick?  I get the mystique value of an unprotected pick, but at some point that mystique is not as exciting when a team no longer appears capable of falling to a top 5 slot.

Given the smooth lottery odds even a team that finishes 10 or 11th overall stands a decent shots at moving up to the top 4. And this years draft is not considered that strong in the back half of the lottery which limits the value of getting the pick this year.

Theres also the possibility of a ja morant injury given the recklessness with which he plays, that mean its totally possible that team still loses a lot next year even if they look better this year. I think you still wnat to roll the pick over, especially because the c''s already have two firsts on the way this year.

https://twitter.com/FOXSportsCLE/status/1208180069350273024

Morant just tried to dunk on Love. Again with these awkward landings...

[nickagneta]

Looks like Memphis lost yet another game last night they had no business losing, and would have won if not for their coach once again sabotaging their chances at victory.

So, for those of you who don't want the pick to convey this year, don't worry, you're going to get your wish. Memphis is bound and determined to keep their pick and is likely to take whatever measures are necessary to make sure that happens.

Of course, given this team probably isn't actually a bottom 10 team based on talent, don't be surprised if they're fighting for a playoff spot next year and the pick we ultimately get is in the 14-18 range. This team isn't anywhere near as bad as their current record might suggest. And Morant and Jackson are only going to get better.

At what point does the value of an unknown unprotected pick in 2021 get bested by a known pick in 2020?   If it is obvious that Memphis is a team capable of of big jump in 20-21, then wouldn’t number 7 or 8 in 2020 be viewed favorably value/wise compared to the unprotected pick?  I get the mystique value of an unprotected pick, but at some point that mystique is not as exciting when a team no longer appears capable of falling to a top 5 slot.

Given the smooth lottery odds even a team that finishes 10 or 11th overall stands a decent shots at moving up to the top 4. And this years draft is not considered that strong in the back half of the lottery which limits the value of getting the pick this year.

Theres also the possibility of a ja morant injury given the recklessness with which he plays, that mean its totally possible that team still loses a lot next year even if they look better this year. I think you still wnat to roll the pick over, especially because the c''s already have two firsts on the way this year.

https://twitter.com/FOXSportsCLE/status/1208180069350273024

Morant just tried to dunk on Love. Again with these awkward landings...

He might have Derrick Rose type injuries in his future with his violent cuts and landings

[mr. dee]

EDIT:
Wrong thread

[rondofan1255]

Grizzlies lost to the Cavs 107-114

[Fierce1]

Late lottery through 20 in ‘21 has more value than 7-10 ‘20.

It would be great if the Celts can get Vernon Carey at #7.

[Sophomore]

Ja Morant. Omg. What was Kevin love thinking as he saw this about to happen?

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1208185714422296576?s=20