Challenge For CelticsStrong: Rank The NYK-BOS-LAL Trade Assets

[CelticsElite]

Love how everyone ranking that #3 pick as the top asset is forgetting that RJ Barrett and Zion do not mesh well together. Anyone who saw them play together knows this. Rj needs the ball in his hands to be effective and his shooting is terrible.

That #3 pick will be RJ. So don't even say  "BUT they can draft culver"

[johnnygreen]

1.   Jayson Tatum
2.   2019 #3 pick (Knicks)
3.   Jaylen Brown
4.   Kevin Knox
5.   Future Grizzlies pick (Boston)
6.   Dennis Smith Jr
7.   Marcus Smart
8.   Robert Williams
9.   Frank Ntilikina
10.   2019 #14 Kings pick (Boston)

Since New Orleans will not deal Davis to the Lakers, those assets hold zero value and were not included in my list.

[Who]

These are the PRIMARY assets each team can offer. IF you'd like to add another pick/player each team may have to offer that you think could also be valuable, then go ahead! Like for example, if you want to include maybe Robert Williams or Emmanuel Mudiay too though they aren't listed, then that's fine!

KNICKS: Frank Ntilikina, Dennis Smith Jr, Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Knox, 2019 #3 Pick

LAKERS: Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, 2019 #4 Pick

CELTICS: Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart, Kings Pick (#14), Future Grizzlies Pick

NOTE: For the sake of this challenge, ONLY focus on these 3 teams. Yes, teams like the Sixers or Clippers may also bid for AD and have valuable assets themselves to offer. But for now, just focus on NYK-LAL-BOS, who are likely the Top-3 bidders for AD's services.

For the sake of argument I would rank these offers

1. Celtics
2. Knicks
3. Lakers

However I find it really hard to believe that DA is offering up all three of those player for AD.

Ultimately I think AD goes to the Knicks, they will give NO every asset they own and win the AD sweepstakes.
The Lakers are going to be left with a mess and will likely make huge offer to the Wiz for Beal. Then they will wait it out till next offseason and try to rip AD out of NY.

Yeah, I would go Celtics #1 if Ainge offers both Tatum and Jaylen.

However, I'd go with the Knicks package based around RJ Barrett #1 if Ainge was only willing to offer one of Tatum or Jaylen because Barrett is the individual player I like the most out of that trio. I also like Mitchell Robinson and Kevin Knox. Dennis Smith Jr is a nice add-in too.

Lakers a distant 3rd. The 4th pick isn't valuable enough to put them back in the race. Ingram's health issues took them out of the running.

What would that leave the Knicks with? AD and....

They would need to get two max free agents out of (1) Kevin Durant (2) Jimmy Butler or Kemba Walker or Kyrie Irving .

Or just one if that one guy is Kevin Durant.

[drooldaddy]

1- Celtics .If we offer JB, JT and Smart. Which I pray we don’t.
2-Knicks - Robinson, Knox and the pick
3, Lakers . This is a distant 3 as Kuzma and Ball and pick don’t impress me. In addition to NO won’t deal with LA

[Monkhouse]

If this is a practice towards ranking trade assets in an Anthony Davis trade, then do the Lakers have any value at all since New Orleans will not deal with them?

Probably false, I think they just saying it to gain leverage.

Pelicans owner  is Gayle Benson

Jackie MacMullan of ESPN:  "We have been told, I think, through channels – most of us have heard this same scuttlebutt – that Gayle Benson has basically told him, “To the Lakers, over my dead body.”

The phrasing of the actual quote is weird.

"We have been told, I think, through channels."

Sounds like they were fed some information, and they simply made some assumptions.

Either way, it doesn't matter anyways.

Ball doesn't want to go to NOP, Ingram has a serious injury history, Kuzma is overrated, and I remember distinctly some users here said Kuzma> Tatum. Which is false. If that were the case, AD would've been apart of the Lakers right now, and we wouldn't be having this conversation/thread. They literally offered their entire team, and the Pelicans said no.

I don't believe that they won't deal with the LAL, it's just their assets/prospects are very underwhelming.

What is their best asset? The 4th pick.

[PhoSita]

These are the PRIMARY assets each team can offer. IF you'd like to add another pick/player each team may have to offer that you think could also be valuable, then go ahead! Like for example, if you want to include maybe Robert Williams or Emmanuel Mudiay too though they aren't listed, then that's fine!

KNICKS: Frank Ntilikina, Dennis Smith Jr, Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Knox, 2019 #3 Pick

LAKERS: Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, 2019 #4 Pick

CELTICS: Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart, Kings Pick (#14), Future Grizzlies Pick

NOTE: For the sake of this challenge, ONLY focus on these 3 teams. Yes, teams like the Sixers or Clippers may also bid for AD and have valuable assets themselves to offer. But for now, just focus on NYK-LAL-BOS, who are likely the Top-3 bidders for AD's services.

Tatum / #3
#4
Jaylen Brown
Future Grizz pick
Kuzma
Knox
Ingram (health question marks)
#14 pick
Marcus Smart
Dennis Smith / Ball
#20
#22
Mitch Robinson
Hart
Robert Williams
Emmanuel Mudiay
Ntilikina

[Silky]

These are the PRIMARY assets each team can offer. IF you'd like to add another pick/player each team may have to offer that you think could also be valuable, then go ahead! Like for example, if you want to include maybe Robert Williams or Emmanuel Mudiay too though they aren't listed, then that's fine!

KNICKS: Frank Ntilikina, Dennis Smith Jr, Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Knox, 2019 #3 Pick

LAKERS: Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, 2019 #4 Pick

CELTICS: Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart, Kings Pick (#14), Future Grizzlies Pick

NOTE: For the sake of this challenge, ONLY focus on these 3 teams. Yes, teams like the Sixers or Clippers may also bid for AD and have valuable assets themselves to offer. But for now, just focus on NYK-LAL-BOS, who are likely the Top-3 bidders for AD's services.

Tatum
Brown
3
Future memphis
4
Smart
Kuzma
Dsj
Robinson
Knox
Kings pick
Ball
Williams
Frank
Hart
Ingram(as his health currently looks)

[jambr380]

These are the PRIMARY assets each team can offer. IF you'd like to add another pick/player each team may have to offer that you think could also be valuable, then go ahead! Like for example, if you want to include maybe Robert Williams or Emmanuel Mudiay too though they aren't listed, then that's fine!

KNICKS: Frank Ntilikina, Dennis Smith Jr, Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Knox, 2019 #3 Pick

LAKERS: Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, 2019 #4 Pick

CELTICS: Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart, Kings Pick (#14), Future Grizzlies Pick

NOTE: For the sake of this challenge, ONLY focus on these 3 teams. Yes, teams like the Sixers or Clippers may also bid for AD and have valuable assets themselves to offer. But for now, just focus on NYK-LAL-BOS, who are likely the Top-3 bidders for AD's services.

For the sake of argument I would rank these offers

1. Celtics
2. Knicks
3. Lakers

However I find it really hard to believe that DA is offering up all three of those player for AD.

Ultimately I think AD goes to the Knicks, they will give NO every asset they own and win the AD sweepstakes.
The Lakers are going to be left with a mess and will likely make huge offer to the Wiz for Beal. Then they will wait it out till next offseason and try to rip AD out of NY.

Yeah, I would go Celtics #1 if Ainge offers both Tatum and Jaylen.

However, I'd go with the Knicks package based around RJ Barrett #1 if Ainge was only willing to offer one of Tatum or Jaylen because Barrett is the individual player I like the most out of that trio. I also like Mitchell Robinson and Kevin Knox. Dennis Smith Jr is a nice add-in too.

Lakers a distant 3rd. The 4th pick isn't valuable enough to put them back in the race. Ingram's health issues took them out of the running.

I don't know. Can the Pelicans really afford to take a chance on the projected 3rd best player in this draft in exchange for their super-duper star? At least with Tatum, he is proven and still extremely young. I doubt Barrett has a higher ceiling than Tatum, but his floor is certainly lower. With already winning the sweepstakes, I think NOP will see Tatum as the ultimate pairing with Zion...and I really don't even think it's close. That is why we WON'T be giving up both Tatum and Jaylen.

[Monkhouse]

By the way, you literally took the same idea from Celtics Reddit Phantom255x.

Just messing with ya. I've been guilty of doing the same too. 

[Phantom255x]

By the way, you literally took the same idea from Celtics Reddit Phantom255x.

Just messing with ya. I've been guilty of doing the same too. 

Wait, seriously? I use/browse Celtics Reddit too, when was a thread like this created there?

[Roy H.]

1. Tatum
2. #3
3. Brown

Those are the only blue chips on the table right now.

[Monkhouse]

By the way, you literally took the same idea from Celtics Reddit Phantom255x.

Just messing with ya. I've been guilty of doing the same too. 

Wait, seriously? I use/browse Celtics Reddit too, when was a thread like this created there?

Not too sure Reddit mobile is meh.

But similar idea and concept, I figured you got inspiration from that thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/bprldl/you_are_the_gm_of_the_boston_celtics_but_with_the/?utm_source=reddit-android

[Roy H.]

#14 pick
Marcus Smart

I find this interesting. I think Smart has significantly more value than a late lottery pick.

[Phantom255x]

By the way, you literally took the same idea from Celtics Reddit Phantom255x.

Just messing with ya. I've been guilty of doing the same too. 

Wait, seriously? I use/browse Celtics Reddit too, when was a thread like this created there?

Not too sure Reddit mobile is meh.

But similar idea and concept, I figured you got inspiration from that thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/bprldl/you_are_the_gm_of_the_boston_celtics_but_with_the/?utm_source=reddit-android

Ohh, yeah I didn't see that post.

[Phantom255x]

Top tier assets - star talent
(1) #3 pick for NYC -- RJ Barrett is awesome
(2) Jayson Tatum
(3) Jaylen Tatum

Second tier assets - non-blue chip prospects with good potential
(4) #4 pick for Lakers
(5) Memphis pick owned by Celtics
(6) Kevin Knox = starter potential, possible 3rd scorer potential
(7) Lonzo Ball = I would rank him lower but I think he has good value in the league. I'd say half the teams in the league still like him and are still willing to give up value for him and half the teams in the league have soured on him and won't give up value for him. Even if NOP don't want him, they can trade him elsewhere in a separate deal.

Third Tier - lower value prospects with starter potential or proven vets
[8] Mitchell Robinson = starter potential
(9) Kyle Kuzma = starter or 6th man, low potential
(10) Dennis Smith Jr = young PG, starter potential low ceiling
(11) Kings #14 pick owned by C's = mid first, rotation player talent
(12) Marcus Smart = not a prospect but good starting veteran

Fourth Tier
(13) Brandon Ingram = don't know if he'll be back in the NBA or not. If he was healthy, he would be a top tier asset.
(14) Robert Williams = unproven prospect, possible bench to starter to out of the league in 3 years. Too unproven to make tier above.

Fifth Tier - low value throw ins
(15) Jason Hart = good bench player veteran, not a prospect
(16) Frank Ntilinka = offense too worrisome, bench player prospect

Wow, Jayson Tatum has a brother! 

Jokes aside, I think this is a solid list all around.