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Re: The writer that didn't vote Jason Tatum All Rookie team revealed...
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2018, 11:25:15 PM »

Offline Csfan1984

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Eddie Sefko of Dallas Morning News

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His first team selections are:

Simmons
Mitchell
Markanen
Dennis Smith Jr.
Lonzo Ball


Seriously? This guy should have his voting privileges stripped based on the last 3 selections over Tatum. Ball played 52 games to Tatum's 80.

I wish I  was on Twitter to send him a message.
If you don't think Markkanen is every bit as good as Tatum, you haven't been paying attention.
For me I don't think Markkanen is as good. He is my fourth best rookie though as he was on a roll this year before injury. My top 5 would be
Mitchell, Simmons, Tatum, Markkanen, Kuzma.

Re: The writer that didn't vote Jason Tatum All Rookie team revealed...
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2018, 11:28:16 PM »

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He is definitely a step below the top three of Simmons, Tatum and Mitchell but most likely the best of the rest so #4 rookie in the league.
Dennis Smith is no slouch either. Smith, Markkanen and Tatum virtually had the same season in terms of last year (even though Tatum did it on the strongest team). This award is not named "which rookie stepped up tin the playoffs, "which rookie will have the best career" or "which rookie has the most talent".
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Re: The writer that didn't vote Jason Tatum All Rookie team revealed...
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2018, 12:09:22 AM »

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that writer does not watch basketball does he.

Re: The writer that didn't vote Jason Tatum All Rookie team revealed...
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2018, 12:28:44 AM »

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Meh. If you saw the numbers of these guys in a vacuum, it wouldn't be considered that crazy.

Simmons: 16/8/8
Mitchell: 21/4/4
Ball: 10/7/7
DSJ: 15/4/3
Mark: 15/8/1
Tatum: 14/5/2

Don't get me wrong, I'd have Tatum ahead of those guys, but all 5 of them had worse teammates and better counting stats. Not quite outrageous.

Re: The writer that didn't vote Jason Tatum All Rookie team revealed...
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2018, 12:30:20 AM »

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He is definitely a step below the top three of Simmons, Tatum and Mitchell but most likely the best of the rest so #4 rookie in the league.
Dennis Smith is no slouch either. Smith, Markkanen and Tatum virtually had the same season in terms of last year (even though Tatum did it on the strongest team). This award is not named "which rookie stepped up tin the playoffs, "which rookie will have the best career" or "which rookie has the most talent".
But often times that is part of a writer's thinking. It's sort of like voting for the best new artist for the Grammys. Writers often try and go for the player they think will be the best down the road as well. Everyone knows Markkanen and Smith aren't in Tatum's class as a player even if their numbers were similar for their rookie season. So Tatum will always get the edge.

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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2018, 12:59:11 AM »

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He is definitely a step below the top three of Simmons, Tatum and Mitchell but most likely the best of the rest so #4 rookie in the league.
Dennis Smith is no slouch either. Smith, Markkanen and Tatum virtually had the same season in terms of last year (even though Tatum did it on the strongest team). This award is not named "which rookie stepped up tin the playoffs, "which rookie will have the best career" or "which rookie has the most talent".
But often times that is part of a writer's thinking. It's sort of like voting for the best new artist for the Grammys. Writers often try and go for the player they think will be the best down the road as well. Everyone knows Markkanen and Smith aren't in Tatum's class as a player even if their numbers were similar for their rookie season. So Tatum will always get the edge.

Good point. Another to consider: It seems to me that with these regular-season awards, there's a sort of "momentum" that forms around certain players before the regular season even begins—I'm not sure who starts it; I'm not sure we can pin down who starts it—and the awards are sort of already decided at the beginning of the season.

This year, for example, lots of people were pegging Harden early on to win MVP (at least, that's how it seemed to me). Sure, other names were suggested—LeBron, Durant, Curry—but I got the sense that this award was already basically decided, and the only way it wasn't gonna be Harden was if, say, Harden suffered a major injury, or maybe if another player averaged 40 points a game. It's almost like people don't want to name the same player MVP too many times, even if he deserves it basically every season (LeBron), or like people think it's so-and-so's "turn" to win the award.

I don't know. The whole awards thing doesn't sit well with me, especially with a nonrookie winning ROY and Stevens getting, what? third place?
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Re: The writer that didn't vote Jason Tatum All Rookie team revealed...
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2018, 03:50:48 AM »

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Meh. If you saw the numbers of these guys in a vacuum, it wouldn't be considered that crazy.

Simmons: 16/8/8
Mitchell: 21/4/4
Ball: 10/7/7
DSJ: 15/4/3
Mark: 15/8/1
Tatum: 14/5/2

Don't get me wrong, I'd have Tatum ahead of those guys, but all 5 of them had worse teammates and better counting stats. Not quite outrageous.

FG% has to be taken in consideration as well, even if you are just looking at stats. That's not even mentioning advance stats. There's a reason everyone else voted for those three. Its quite obvious those three are ona different tier than the rest.