Would Brown be second best rookie with more playing time?

[footey]

Jaylen is taking his lumps right now. Probably not used to guys like the Greek Freak blocking his shots.  The lesson for him is that while he has elite athleticism, it will take more than that to be a stud in this league.  He has to learn his craft.  Based on everything I've read about him and the progress I see in his game, and the serious effort he puts into the defensive end, I am confident he is going to succeed well. Will he become an NBA all star some day? I really hope so, but of course it is too early to make that prediction about him.

[Moranis]

Brown is young and too inconsistent... If you watched last nights game he was completely passive, almost look like he was recovering from an injury... maybe he was???

I think he will become a great player but I think it will take 2 years for him to catch up the speed of the game

I think that is his personality.  I worry that he will be a Jeff Green type player.  Jeff Green showed flashes of greatness as a rookie as well and they appear pretty similar in personality and skill set.

Yeah I mean Ron Artest, Paul George, and Jimmy Butler were really consistent their rookie years, lol. Keep ripping Brown though. Time will tell who is right.

consistency and personality are not the same thing.  Marcus Smart has an aggressive fiery personality and always has even as a rookie when he was far less consistent than he is now.  Jaylen Brown is a rookie.  He could be great or he could bust out of the league.  Neither is very likely.  It is far more likely he has a nice solid career without hitting one of the extremes.

Can you describe his personality? He seems pretty aggressive to me actually. He takes a good amount of shots for the minutes he plays. Maybe you're confusing his minutes for shot attempts?

in another thread in a larger post crimson stallion said this, which I agree with fully with respect to Brown and his personality.

On the other hand Jaylen Brown is a 20 year old 6'6" rookie SF who has shown some flashes of potential here and there but still has a very long way to go. 

I can understand the Jeff Green comparison because the two have a lot in common.  Both had good length, both had a similar style of athleticism (not that flashy, but kind of effortlessly athletic), both had similar weaknesses (ball handling, inconsistent jumper) and both had similar personalities (laid back, intelligent, not especially emotional).   

You could also say that Brown has flashes of Jimmy Butler, but Butler has a very different personality.  Butler is an angry, emotional guy with a huge motor.  His mentality is closer to Jae Crowder or Marcus Smart then it is to Jaylen Brown. Brown doesn't really have that tough, mean streak in him.  He doesn't seem to have Crowder's toughness, or Bradley's tireless work ethic.

By all means Brown COULD become a star, but right now it really is a 50/50 call that could go either way. If I have a shot at bringing in a guy who could transform us into a contender overnight, then I'm not letting that go to gamble on Jaylen Brown.  It's too risky.

[tankcity!]

Brown is young and too inconsistent... If you watched last nights game he was completely passive, almost look like he was recovering from an injury... maybe he was???

I think he will become a great player but I think it will take 2 years for him to catch up the speed of the game

I think that is his personality.  I worry that he will be a Jeff Green type player.  Jeff Green showed flashes of greatness as a rookie as well and they appear pretty similar in personality and skill set.

Yeah I mean Ron Artest, Paul George, and Jimmy Butler were really consistent their rookie years, lol. Keep ripping Brown though. Time will tell who is right.

consistency and personality are not the same thing.  Marcus Smart has an aggressive fiery personality and always has even as a rookie when he was far less consistent than he is now.  Jaylen Brown is a rookie.  He could be great or he could bust out of the league.  Neither is very likely.  It is far more likely he has a nice solid career without hitting one of the extremes.

Can you describe his personality? He seems pretty aggressive to me actually. He takes a good amount of shots for the minutes he plays. Maybe you're confusing his minutes for shot attempts?

in another thread in a larger post crimson stallion said this, which I agree with fully with respect to Brown and his personality.

On the other hand Jaylen Brown is a 20 year old 6'6" rookie SF who has shown some flashes of potential here and there but still has a very long way to go. 

I can understand the Jeff Green comparison because the two have a lot in common.  Both had good length, both had a similar style of athleticism (not that flashy, but kind of effortlessly athletic), both had similar weaknesses (ball handling, inconsistent jumper) and both had similar personalities (laid back, intelligent, not especially emotional).   

You could also say that Brown has flashes of Jimmy Butler, but Butler has a very different personality.  Butler is an angry, emotional guy with a huge motor.  His mentality is closer to Jae Crowder or Marcus Smart then it is to Jaylen Brown. Brown doesn't really have that tough, mean streak in him.  He doesn't seem to have Crowder's toughness, or Bradley's tireless work ethic.

By all means Brown COULD become a star, but right now it really is a 50/50 call that could go either way. If I have a shot at bringing in a guy who could transform us into a contender overnight, then I'm not letting that go to gamble on Jaylen Brown.  It's too risky.

That's truly disappointing, but everyone has a right to their opinion. I think the guy is a stud and Alpha male from everything I have read about him. If he wasn't like Butler, he wouldn't be working out with him. I'm very confident this kid will be a star. I've already seen improvements in his game from the SL, unlike players previously like Smart.

Like I said time will tell, but from everything I've read, I would be shocked if he isn't a star.

[CelticGuardian]

You only need to see how this kid does not fear physical play, his addiction with attacking the rim, the passes out of strong drives, the post mid-range game he flashed right out of the box, and the handles on such a big boy body to know he's going to succeed in the NBA. I have more faith in his jumpshot than I ever did in RJ's, Young's, and Smart's. Jaylen would literally have to get in his own way to not reach his potential, I expect a very busy summer for him.

[Moranis]

Brown is young and too inconsistent... If you watched last nights game he was completely passive, almost look like he was recovering from an injury... maybe he was???

I think he will become a great player but I think it will take 2 years for him to catch up the speed of the game

I think that is his personality.  I worry that he will be a Jeff Green type player.  Jeff Green showed flashes of greatness as a rookie as well and they appear pretty similar in personality and skill set.

Yeah I mean Ron Artest, Paul George, and Jimmy Butler were really consistent their rookie years, lol. Keep ripping Brown though. Time will tell who is right.

consistency and personality are not the same thing.  Marcus Smart has an aggressive fiery personality and always has even as a rookie when he was far less consistent than he is now.  Jaylen Brown is a rookie.  He could be great or he could bust out of the league.  Neither is very likely.  It is far more likely he has a nice solid career without hitting one of the extremes.

Can you describe his personality? He seems pretty aggressive to me actually. He takes a good amount of shots for the minutes he plays. Maybe you're confusing his minutes for shot attempts?

in another thread in a larger post crimson stallion said this, which I agree with fully with respect to Brown and his personality.

On the other hand Jaylen Brown is a 20 year old 6'6" rookie SF who has shown some flashes of potential here and there but still has a very long way to go. 

I can understand the Jeff Green comparison because the two have a lot in common.  Both had good length, both had a similar style of athleticism (not that flashy, but kind of effortlessly athletic), both had similar weaknesses (ball handling, inconsistent jumper) and both had similar personalities (laid back, intelligent, not especially emotional).   

You could also say that Brown has flashes of Jimmy Butler, but Butler has a very different personality.  Butler is an angry, emotional guy with a huge motor.  His mentality is closer to Jae Crowder or Marcus Smart then it is to Jaylen Brown. Brown doesn't really have that tough, mean streak in him.  He doesn't seem to have Crowder's toughness, or Bradley's tireless work ethic.

By all means Brown COULD become a star, but right now it really is a 50/50 call that could go either way. If I have a shot at bringing in a guy who could transform us into a contender overnight, then I'm not letting that go to gamble on Jaylen Brown.  It's too risky.

That's truly disappointing, but everyone has a right to their opinion. I think the guy is a stud and Alpha male from everything I have read about him. If he wasn't like Butler, he wouldn't be working out with him. I'm very confident this kid will be a star. I've already seen improvements in his game from the SL, unlike players previously like Smart.

Like I said time will tell, but from everything I've read, I would be shocked if he isn't a star.

No one said he wouldn't improve.  That is just silly.  Jeff Green improved a great deal over his career as well. 

[cousytoheinsohn]

He's the next Michael Jordan

Clearly.

[GreenShooter]

Jaylen Brown is no Jeff Green.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i8zHhNivec
Take that, punka$$ kid lol.

[celticsclay]

Brown is young and too inconsistent... If you watched last nights game he was completely passive, almost look like he was recovering from an injury... maybe he was???

I think he will become a great player but I think it will take 2 years for him to catch up the speed of the game

I think that is his personality.  I worry that he will be a Jeff Green type player.  Jeff Green showed flashes of greatness as a rookie as well and they appear pretty similar in personality and skill set.

Yeah I mean Ron Artest, Paul George, and Jimmy Butler were really consistent their rookie years, lol. Keep ripping Brown though. Time will tell who is right.

consistency and personality are not the same thing.  Marcus Smart has an aggressive fiery personality and always has even as a rookie when he was far less consistent than he is now.  Jaylen Brown is a rookie.  He could be great or he could bust out of the league.  Neither is very likely.  It is far more likely he has a nice solid career without hitting one of the extremes.

Can you describe his personality? He seems pretty aggressive to me actually. He takes a good amount of shots for the minutes he plays. Maybe you're confusing his minutes for shot attempts?

in another thread in a larger post crimson stallion said this, which I agree with fully with respect to Brown and his personality.

On the other hand Jaylen Brown is a 20 year old 6'6" rookie SF who has shown some flashes of potential here and there but still has a very long way to go. 

I can understand the Jeff Green comparison because the two have a lot in common.  Both had good length, both had a similar style of athleticism (not that flashy, but kind of effortlessly athletic), both had similar weaknesses (ball handling, inconsistent jumper) and both had similar personalities (laid back, intelligent, not especially emotional).   

You could also say that Brown has flashes of Jimmy Butler, but Butler has a very different personality.  Butler is an angry, emotional guy with a huge motor.  His mentality is closer to Jae Crowder or Marcus Smart then it is to Jaylen Brown. Brown doesn't really have that tough, mean streak in him.  He doesn't seem to have Crowder's toughness, or Bradley's tireless work ethic.

By all means Brown COULD become a star, but right now it really is a 50/50 call that could go either way. If I have a shot at bringing in a guy who could transform us into a contender overnight, then I'm not letting that go to gamble on Jaylen Brown.  It's too risky.

That's truly disappointing, but everyone has a right to their opinion. I think the guy is a stud and Alpha male from everything I have read about him. If he wasn't like Butler, he wouldn't be working out with him. I'm very confident this kid will be a star. I've already seen improvements in his game from the SL, unlike players previously like Smart.

Like I said time will tell, but from everything I've read, I would be shocked if he isn't a star.

No one said he wouldn't improve.  That is just silly.  Jeff Green improved a great deal over his career as well.

I am not really sure what you are talking about here Moranis. Jeff Green certainly has not improved a lot over his career. He is 30 years old and should be absolutely in his prime this year and the last few years. Instead he is relegated to being mostly a bench player for a terrible Orlando team. Last year he couldn't even nail down the starting small forward spot for a team that tried the fossil of Paul Pierce and Mbah a Moute.

His best season was his second season when he shot 45% from the field (2nd highest of his career), shot 39% from 3 (career high),  averaged 6.5 rebounds (career high), 2 assists (career high) 16.5 points (second highest of career)

Maybe it was the Heart Surgery, maybe it was something else, but Jeff Green is a textbook example of a guy that never got much better. You suggesting otherwise is what is actually silly.

[nickagneta]

Just dont see where Jaylen Brown has a Jeff Green type personality that would effect his game. Everything I have read describes a young man that is aggressive and driven to be the best he can be. Jeff Green was criticized for his lack of drive and aggression all the way back in Georgetown. Its s bad comparison, imo.

[TrueFan]

Just dont see where Jaylen Brown has a Jeff Green type personality that would effect his game. Everything I have read describes a young man that is aggressive and driven to be the best he can be. Jeff Green was criticized for his lack of drive and aggression all the way back in Georgetown. Its s bad comparison, imo.

Agreed. I love when he attacks his man and gives him the stare down after taking him to the hole. He has an edge that Jeff Green never did.

[celticsclay]

Just dont see where Jaylen Brown has a Jeff Green type personality that would effect his game. Everything I have read describes a young man that is aggressive and driven to be the best he can be. Jeff Green was criticized for his lack of drive and aggression all the way back in Georgetown. Its s bad comparison, imo.

Yea earlier in this thread Moranis was indicating that he agreed with the other poster Stallion that Brown didn't have the work ethic of Bradley or hard working personality of Crowder. I'm really not sure where either of the guys is getting that to be honest...

[hwangjini_1]

He's the next Michael Jordan

I'll take that bet.

It was just a joke old man. God you're out of touch. Now make sure you have your prune juice this morning.

Hey! You got something against prune juice??  For us old farts it is great stuff! 

Besides, really there is no reason to be that mean to anyone on this board.really.

[RockinRyA]

If you take into context that Brown is earning his time and not being force fed minutes, as well as the fact that he us contributing to a team that may go deep in the playoffs, one could say he might be the 2nd best rookie regardless of the minutes he has been playing. Brown may have developed more than any other rookie except Embiid thus far and yet has played less minutes than many rookies.

I like Brown, but to be honest I think that saying "heis contributing to a team that might go deep in the playoffs" is pushing it.

I mean technically he IS contributing - he's playing solid minutes off the bench, and his percentages are pretty solid.  But it's not like he's been a difference maker, or like he's made us a better team. 

For example, would we be any worse off if we benched Brown and gave his minutes to Green instead?  Or if we re-signed Turner and gave those minutes to Turner instead?  I don't think so. 

So contributing...I guess.  Making an impact...mmmm not so much.

It's not the same situation for example as Marcus Smart, who played > 25 MPG as a rookie, as a starting PG, on a playoff team.  I felt Smart made a consistent impact for us in his rookie year, and I wouldn't say the same about Brown.  Solid game here and there among a sea of mediocre games.

Not trying to be a downer or suggest that he doesn't have potential - just saying that I would use the phrase "contributing to a playoff team" loosely when it comes to Brown, even if I do like what I've seen from him so far.   

Turner- yes. Green? No.